Brawl Minus - Game & Watch

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Okay, I know there's alot of you out there who played Brawl Minus, and it's popularity is rising quickly. But the reason for this thread is just like the normal G&W threads: New match-ups due to character changes, different strategies and also, if possible, new ATs for the negative side of The Watch. If anyone has anything they would like to add to the thread, I would be more than appreciative of the thought. So far, not all the characters are done, but for the ones that are, if you have anything to contribute, add it to the thread. The only thing I can contribute now is the changes for those who don't know.

Aerials:

Nair: Melee Nair (parachute) w/ increased BKB and KBG
(Also, pushing A instead of holding A will give you Brawl Nair instead of Melee)
Fair: IASA Frames, made strong hitboxes longer, less landing lag
(Spammable)
Bair: Hits 7 times for 31% total damage

Dair: Always spikes

Uair: Larger hitboxes, windbox does 1% damage

Tilts:

Pummel: More damage, less SDI

Ftilt: less starting and ending lag

Utilt: Almost no ending lag, faster

Dtilt: More BKB, More KBG (Sort of like Melee's w/ less lagNot as strong as Melee's)

Smashes

Fsmash: Almost no ending lag
(Also spammable)
Usmash: Almost no ending lag

Throws:

Uthrow: a little less BKB, greatly reduced KBG

Specials:

B: Faster food, semi-spike
(The faster you tap, the faster food will come out)
Up B: Invincibility until parachute, more BKB and KBG

Down B: Can dump after 1 projectile, IASA if nothing is caught after 25 frames.

Judgment:

1 - Cape element, 1% recoil, 3% damage, breaks shields

2 - Flower element, trips, 5% damage

3 - Stuns, 90 degree trajectory, 9% damage

4 - Darkness element, 11% damage

5 - All hits spike

6 - More Knockback, 0 SDI

7 - Dizzy

8 - 15% damage

9 - Larger hitboxes

If anybody could manage to reduce the lag on Judgment that would be great, but the aerial Judgment's sub-routines make it very difficult.

Latest update:

More Run velocity and more traction

More air mobility and max horizontal velocity

Less floaty

Weight lowered from 75 to 60

Other stuff:

Less startup lag on Nair

Slightly more BKB on ^B

Glitch:: Grounded Parachute?

 

[Splice]

At first i thought this was about Brawl WITHOUT GaW, the way the thread title was written.

I really want Brawl Minus. I think this thread should stay and also have a hyphen in the title ;D

 

[Metmetm3t]

lol Brawl Minus is so silly it's actually pretty fun

but they should do something to G&W's dodge roll to make it less useless

 

[Never Emperor]

Okay, I know there's alot of you out there who played Brawl Minus, and it's popularity is rising quickly. But the reason for this thread is just like the normal G&W threads: New match-ups due to character changes, different strategies and also, if possible, new ATs for the negative side of The Watch. If anyone has anything they would like to add to the thread, I would be more than appreciative of the thought. So far, not all the characters are done, but for the ones that are, if you have anything to contribute, add it to the thread. The only thing I can contribute now is the changes for those who don't know.

Aerials:

Nair: Melee Nair (parachute) w/ increased BKB and KBG
(Also, pushing A instead of holding A will give you Brawl Nair instead of Melee)
Fair: IASA Frames, made strong hitboxes longer, less landing lag
(Spammable)
Bair: Hits 7 times for 31% total damage

Dair: Always spikes

Uair: Larger hitboxes, windbox does 1% damage

Tilts:

Pummel: More damage, less SDI

Ftilt: less starting and ending lag

Utilt: Almost no ending lag, faster

Dtilt: More BKB, More KBG (Sort of like Melee's w/ less lagNot as strong as Melee's)

Smashes

Fsmash: Almost no ending lag
(Also spammable)
Usmash: Almost no ending lag

Throws:

Uthrow: a little less BKB, greatly reduced KBG

Specials:

B: Faster food, semi-spike
(The faster you tap, the faster food will come out)
Up B: Invincibility until parachute, more BKB and KBG

Down B: Can dump after 1 projectile, IASA if nothing is caught after 25 frames.

Judgment:

1 - Cape element, 1% recoil, 3% damage, breaks shields

2 - Flower element, trips, 5% damage

3 - Stuns, 90 degree trajectory, 9% damage

4 - Darkness element, 11% damage

5 - All hits spike

6 - More Knockback, 0 SDI

7 - Dizzy

8 - 15% damage

9 - Larger hitboxes

If anybody could manage to reduce the lag on Judgment that would be great, but the aerial Judgment's sub-routines make it very difficult.

Latest update:

More Run velocity and more traction

More air mobility and max horizontal velocity

Less floaty

Weight lowered from 75 to 60

Other stuff:

Less startup lag on Nair

Slightly more BKB on ^B

This sounds ridiculous!

 

[A2ZOMG]

With G&W's mobility, Judgement is so stupidly safe, and you can U-throw into it.

Plus, D-air always spiking is lovely.

 

[SFA Smiley]

Just got this ****, GW is insane, he's so god**** mobile. You can even approach with Dsmash jesus christ this is awesome XD

 

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There's a weird glitch with him that allows a grounded parachute. It's really hard to beat, but I have no idea how to activate it.

 

[UTDZac]

Fsmash -> before it comes out hold up/down

Mind blown O.O

 

[Mr. Escalator]

Yeah he's had that angled Fsmash for a while now.

Either way, I don't enjoy Brawl- G&W; I practically always go someone besides him because he looks so unpolished. His Nair, last time I checked, is poorly executed, as if you land with the fishbowl out you still get the parachute landing animation. Not to mention angled Fsmash. He also doesn't feel like the G&W I know and love because of the change in mechanics and making him less floaty and weigh less.

No issues with the project as a whole, since I still love playing other people, but I think they really could of done better with G&W.

 

[A2ZOMG]

I love D-air spiking all the way down. That's why I like G&W in this game.

 

[Mr. Escalator]

Yeah, that's one of the changes I do really enjoy.
I forgot to mention I don't like DownB's change either

 

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The only thing I dislike about down B is you can't hold it out anymore.

 

[overgamer]

I think Minus G&W is really overpowered. Look at all the random Judgement combos you can do, lolz! I really enjoy playing as him on Minus.

His only drawback is his weight. :D

 

[SFA Smiley]

I like Minus GW but I think my minus main will be bowser

Superarmor and Nair, they're so awesome

 

[UTDZac]

I really like G&W- He's so good. My friends complain to me that he's the best character... stupid glass cannon ><

Too bad hitstun is so extreme and he weighs so little. Personally I've been using PT for most everything. All three of those guys are my faves. Squirtle is a little ******** just spamming shnair and fsmash

 

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I say Luigi is the top of the list for Brawl Minus. Surprisingly Jiggz is up there too. She's so mean with hitstun

 

[overgamer]

I say Luigi is the top of the list for Brawl Minus. Surprisingly Jiggz is up there too. She's so mean with hitstun

ROB is op dude. :D

 

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Man I forgot all about Rob.