Brawl+ Character Balance: Character 4: King DeDeDe

[Swordplay]

Dees should be more aggresive. They should pounce every chance possible. Same for the Doos.

Speed up the Dee's animation. Give more KB to their attacks as well.


Rather than take out the Dees. Make them actually useful.

This is the problem with Dees I have. they are practically useless compared to doos and serve really no purpose that a doo can not fulfill.

Either take them out or improve them.

 

[Clever_Sleazoid]

No. Dthrow is necessary for tech chases at the moment, and lowering Uthrow would give him another CG.

A less Kb dthrow would make tech chasing easier, would it not? I don't see how you think this would be a nerf...

Uthrow should be lowered enough for him to actually combo from it, right now every character can just DI up and airdodge before he can connect with anything. It would not give him a CG.

 

[Ussi]

I suggest making nair more combo material.

Shooting his minions from inhale sounds cool too. (but then Kirby should be able to as well ;o)

 

[goodoldganon]

Unless there are any objections, I'll be back to close this topic around 5. So we want DeDeDe to focus more on the minions correct? We will be doing this by...

1. Allowing for 3 minions at once
2. Minions can't be picked up with the A button
3. 30:10:1 for the new Dee/Doo/Gordo ratio

Also, we should grat D3 a little more momentum. I'm no coder but these could be tough changes. Either way, they will be submitted unless someone wants something to add. I'll talk with the Backroom and see if there are an more immediate characters we want to discuss.

 

[Kijitow]

Would there be any way to make Dees more aggressive? It is kinda silly that his most frequent minion's main use is taking up space.

 

[peachfvl]

i agree with all goodoldganon said but you should improve a bit his jab i find it to slow

 

[Cowbox]

If we're allowing three Dees on screen, I don't feel like they need to be any more aggressive.

 

[goodoldganon]

Would there be any way to make Dees more aggressive? It is kinda silly that his most frequent minion's main use is taking up space.

And absorbing projectiles. I doubt it's possible to make them more aggressive, but his minions are there to be random and unpredictable and absorb projectiles.

 

[Shell]

Are we still planning to talk about Ganondolf, then?

 

[IC3R]

goodoldganon, you should include a sped-up Jab for DDD =X

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......plz?

 

[goodoldganon]

are We Still Planning To Talk About ganondolf, Then?

You Disgust Me!

 

[Cowbox]

I would love to talk 'Dorf if he's next on the bracket. Got a few ideas for him.

 

[Shell]

It was intentional,

Ganondolf

Game 'n' Dorf

Oldmanondorf

G-Nasty

Many names, one legend. But I won't bring him up again until we're actually talking about him. Sorry if I derailed any lingering DDD talk.

 

[goodoldganon]

After this Heroic Nexus run I'll post the next character.

 

[Cowbox]

Game 'n' Dorf

First time I laughed all day. Don't know why.

Aside from just minions, is there anything else to add? I don't play D3 myself, but I notice a few other people clamoring for a couple throw changes -- of course, I don't condone anything that would give him his chaingrabs back.

 

[Adetque]

I think his throws are good now. I don't think he should be able to combo into u-tilt with throws unless you can shorten his grab range, but that would completely change the way he's played.

 

[CloneHat]

Yes! Ganondorf! I actually play Ganondorf!

I think he needs some buffs that help him deal with pressure.

 

[Almas]

I beat the lock.

I guess I have an unfair advantage.

Anyway, closed at request. New thread up soon!