So I take it you play melee then? You do? Then why are you discussing whether or not MK warrants a ban? If you dont, why are you suggesting melee in the first place?melee
So, you mean to tell me that, if I take the time to survey everyone that has played and quit brawl within a reasonable playing career, you can honestly say that you're mind will change completely and you'll be pro ban?then again where are the actually statistics of brawl tournaments and how many people quit do you know?
I could bring you a Personal live recorded interview with every player that quit brawl within a reasonable tourney playing time, and still, someone would bring up another random fact that would be impossible to document and the discussion would find a new place to go to.
^^^ Reply is Above^^^Like where is the proof the game is dying slowly
You'd be butthurt too if you'd paid $600.00 usdollaz to get Geyed. (nothing personal metagey's). Don't try to imagine how people would feel unless you'd walked in their shoes...and be geyed like they did.i see some possibilties everyone right now is butthurt over pound4 "omg so much MK"
well you guys obviously haven't seen some SF tournaments then or some tekken
He does, and even more when it comes to REAL fighting games, anyway's. When he gave examples about Tekken 4, 5, 5: DR and 6 (if you actually bothered to read anything and didn't just started to quote what the last person of the thread suggested), he was actually speaking from experience when it came to it.Kasht said:I know my s***
I don't think you're at a position to say what does and doesn't go on in SF. It has more history than Brawl and Melee combined.where high tier is mostly supreme
If that was a Hypothetical example, it was terrible. No one in Pound used Zelda to My knowledge's extent. They did Pick K DDD, Wario, Falco, Kirby and others. The Fact that neither of them placed top 10 is a whole different story.thats one problem alot people in brawl have is they aren't using tournament effienent characters and pick zelda who has a 20-80 MU against MK and wonder why they can't place high
Ur not D only 1. Every one's found a counterpick for most characters that give theirs bad match ups: MK. That's part of the main problem. He's a solution for most problems, but that's questionable because, he doesn't have a counter or bad match up as is. When realizing that is when the thought of "why not just main him" kicks in and there's another MK on the bandwagon.thats why i knew if i was going to advance in the tournament scene i made some research and got a smart counterpick character of snake.
You're talking about early stages of playing; the learning stages; WI FI (lolwut?). Pound and many other OoS tournaments are more serious tha those examples, because there's more at state/there are more sacrifices involved to able to attend them. Try and multiply your previous frustrations x10 and the result might be what the metaplanked pound victims might feel lol.As far as beating MK the only problem i see it for is the mediocore wifi players or whatever first tournament attenders that really have trouble with that matchup but its not even that matchup how much you wanna bet you put them against some advance falcos and Warios the same outcome might come its a very matchup intensive game by what i feel and i'm sure players are going to get frusterated (i sure as hell did you prolly even have seen me walk outside get something to drink to cool off whatever) but thats me learning right there i'm not going to blood cross it and give up on it (inb4 bloodcross<3)
Many people dedicated and practiced and tried and lost. Not just PR players, but many US players as well (for the most part).but people gotta put in that dedication to reach that top status and also thats in part where we as a community definitally let him know yeah well we can help you out and show you to a good time at the tournament venue and help that person overall have a better time at the tournament environment which is why i try to be very social (or going to try to be especially more) to new people and definitally let em know that yeah you know we all were there frusterated and learning but theres way around it.
by the by, it's real easy to ask for concrete evidence for our arguments and demand the counting of heads to found YOUR arguments, which are that he doesn't warrant a ban beacause he hasn't won a certain amount of tournaments or because he's actually beatable, but how about the anti banners show evidence as well. This isn't a one way street.
That's all where getting. Crockpot Theories and scrubish thoughts. Which leads me to believe that most antibaners do it for the lulz.CommonAntibanLudocrismz said:Pics or it didn't happen
Pics or it didn't happen (how is he beatable[not who beat who, but how])Mk is beatable
Don't be lazy and search for it yourself. Why do we have to show you real concrete cyber data to show you where right, but you can barge in sayin whatever you want not expecting to be asked to do the same? wtf? Give us Data on how atendance is pretty **** good why don't you?and the tournament attendance so far is pretty **** good unless you can prove me otherwise wrong with real data
You'd be surprised on what 4-5 months can do. As far as I'm concerned, 2009 didn't end in August.i just go by tournament results i see every week i may be like 4-5 months behind but so far we started the new year straight ma doo
Honestly, this point was valid into, I don't know, like 5 or 6 months brawl in. Maaaybe at One year Old. But it's been 2 Complete Years and He's STILL questionable for a ban. There hasn't been a counter character or Tech Found; He still dominates every one in the game by a reasonable margin. What does he need, a personal wavedash to convince every one?its only been 2 years so far we still got some time to see something happen
With brawls mechanics, I highly doubt that anything game-changing would be found that would make him less Powerful. Whether it be 5 months or 5 years, it wouldn't make much of a difference to be frank. The difference would be the minds of the players at best, but not the game or the character itself.
Yo Bro, Street Fighter franchise has been out way more than Melee and other competitive fighters and its STILL changing now we can enjoy all the fun of Ryu Dittos in the grand finals but I'd love to see your stand point 2 years in SF.Yo bro Melee's been out way more than many competitive fighters and its STILL changing now we can enjoy all the fun of puff dittos in the grand finals but i'd love to see your stand point 2 years in melee
I can use SF to counter ur game too? No. Why? Because they're different games.
And correct me if I'm mistaken, but Wavedash was discovered 2 years in if my memory does not serve me wrong. But the point is, stop trying to compare Melee standards with brawl standards because they are obviously very different games. If you love it so much, go and play it and don't participate in the discussion at all lol
First, we have proven nothing. Ally and ADHD have. Second, what they've proven is that they can beat out everyone; not Snake or Diddy. If that where the case, you'd see more snakes, or at least, more Diddy's top 10 in Pound (which is the tourny example you're using since you metioned Diddy). We can however prove that MK is the obvious majority when it comes to top placings seeing as not just 1 player got top 10 with him: 8 did.We have proven Snake can beat MK, Diddy