Boss presents: The cape ****

[boss8]

a new AT that is/isnt broken......

i will let you be the judge...test it out....

it has potential...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpF88hqgdwg

 

[Ismael]

Amazing, but is Metaknight the only char that it works well with?

 

[boss8]

Amazing, but is Metaknight the only char that it works well with?

i tested it out with.....

Uthrows i tested it out with

GaW
DK
DDD
pikachu
Kirby

GaW metaknight and kirby are the best choices....also DK cause he can cargo hold jump then uthrow....then u cape it people die at like 35% O_O

i still need to test it out with alot of other characters.....

lol mario gets better...

 

[Matt07]

Woooooow amazing! Seriously .

Mario like, God Tier in teams?

 

[Ismael]

Great job Boss.

Unfortunately, teams are made up with a simple rule. One guy tanks, the other combos and kills at low percentages. Mario does well in the latter rule, but the only good tank that goes well with Mario in teams is Dedede, and his uthrow isn't the best in aiding Mario with his Cape ****. Beastly find, though. Unforunately, most MK users don't want to team with a lame partner like "Mario". Jerks... XD

 

[bobson]

That is magical.
Try Olimar with purple or blue Pikmin; a purple uthrow is the second strongest throw in the game. Ivysaur and Lucas also have notably good uthrows.

Does it have the same effect with upward-launching attacks, or is it just throws?
Edit2: And what about special grabs, like Bowser's flying slam?

Edit: Dear God, think of how great this would be on Corneria.

 

[boss8]

lol well i team with many characters before i can tank as mario while still maintaning combos/kills......

mario is good in teams with anyone else who is equally good....dont look at it like having the best partner...look at it like having fun and killing at low %'s...

well atleast thats how i do it...

yea bobson we did it on halberd/frigate/yoshi's and they all kill at like 38% O_O

 

[Ismael]

38% is too good. Team counter pick frigate and you can pull a quick cape **** set up 10 seconds into the fight... that's godly.

 

[boss8]

yea if it all goes accourding to plan..... XD

 

[Ismael]

The match is almost yours if it becomes a two on one. XD

Upward hitting attacks no work?

 

[boss8]

yea it works out of pikachu's Dsmash but thats all we tested...and it works out of snakes usmash...lol there is so many things to test....LOL the capes prioritys in this game are endless.....mario is slowly rising.....lol

 

[Ismael]

I looked at the vid and it seems like you have to cape them JUST after they get the knockback from the attack, while they still have hitstun.

As great as this is, it probably won't be used much in competitive smash, not only because it's just in teams, but simply how tourney matches are played out. "You get your guy and I get my guy". And when a partner gets mad from bieng hit by the opponent's teammate while trieng to combo or something, "get your guy!". XD

Having to run back in forth when a setup occurs won't work often.

This might seem a little TOO situational.

 

[boss8]

lol idk how u work out teams then....i was doing some friendlys and did it like 3 times.....with good players.....lol

 

[xXTACXx]

Im guessing its not possible to momentum cancel?

 

[boss8]

Im guessing its not possible to momentum cancel?

it can be.....

but if your over the percent it kills you at then you will die.....like if u live from it when your suppose to die over 40% you will die over 50%

maybe no with high ceiling....

if i cape you as soon as you hit the ground then no u cant cause your stunned...

 

[Ismael]

lol idk how u work out teams then....i was doing some friendlys and did it like 3 times.....with good players.....lol

Do you stay close when the opportunity arises? What's your general strategy when in a team battle?

And I think it's because you know your partner well and already have game plan in your heads. (Not to mention you both know about the whole cape **** thing). When you simply team up with a player at a tourney the "you get your guy, I get mine" is usually how it's played out. It's simply temporary, and they're just usually in it to win, and will most likely just want to handle their own guy like a one on one match.

It annoys me how last minute team pair ups are. Always play friendlies first if you don't know somebody.

 

[A2ZOMG]

I knew you'd find it! A way to practically apply the Cape Momentum boost!

Looks like I'm using Mario more in teams!

 

[KirinBlaze]

YES!

Looks like I have a new team tactic so show PD and Will for teams. ;D Thank's, Boss.

 

[HeroMystic]

The "Cape Momentum" has been known for awhile, but there has been no application of it until now.

Good work, Boss.

 

[PhantomX]

Find out if this works with Wario for me please, I may be teaming with a Mario player

 

[boss8]

i think u can do it out of mario's bite......i will test it out...

 

[Matador]

It works on the lava in Brinstar and Norfair as well. Once they hit the lava, cape them, and the momentum will kill them, especially since neither has a high ceiling.

This works in every direction, meaning that if Luigi misfires an opponent at 0% and you are there to cape them during the knockback, they WILL die. Same with his upB. Also, it works during meteor, though not as practical. It only seems to work during the knockback though. If Cape combo'd into something...this would break him.

Good **** on bringing this to the table Boss. Not trying to steal your thunder or anything, but after I saw what Fear did to that Pikachu in his vid, I started testing **** out myself

 

[boss8]

na bro your not stealin my thunder...us mario's gotta look out for each other....thats why i posted this id but good FINd!!! if your serious about that luigi thing then the mario bro's team would be broken.....lol

 

[DtJ XeroXen]

I'll be experimenting on how to implement this 1v1 later today, VERY nice find Boss.

This'll be what breaks us.

 

[boss8]

no dude there are still WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY more posibilitys with this.....if someone finds out something in singles then mario would go up a tier.....in the mean time i will test out some stuff and then get back to you guys when i found out something...

 

[PhantomX]

How would you implement this in 1v1s effectively unless it was on a stage with hazards?

 

[boss8]

yea unless its vs snake..i need to think of some stuff.

 

[Matador]

What if you cape someone during the flip on Frigate?

 

[Kanzaki]

When Snake's recovering, and he uses his C4, cape his knock back xD

 

[slikvik]

How would you implement this in 1v1s effectively unless it was on a stage with hazards?

Me, boss and others just tested characters upthrows yesterday so i don't know but...

I was reading what matador posted about luigis misfire. If it works horizontally...suppose you hit your opponents into a wall(on corneria for example) and they don't tech and you cape them. That may speed up their momentum. test people

 

[PhantomX]

What if you cape someone during the flip on Frigate?

This doesn't give anyone momentum though, so it's unlikely. Slik's wall idea is kind of interesting though. Even if it doesn't work, but it works on Snake, that would still be hilarious if he became a counter ;P

You guys manage to make a complete list of throws that work?

BTW... who here is coming to WHOBO?

 

[Matador]

When Snake's recovering, and he uses his C4, cape his knock back xD

Or cape their Usmash, then if it hits them, cape him during THAT knockback. Same with his grenades.

grab a thrown grenade, jump over him and toss it down (sort of like how Link does with his bomb), then cape him after it explodes on him. I should test these percentages with DI...

Me, boss and others just tested characters upthrows yesterday so i don't know but...

I was reading what matador posted about luigis misfire. If it works horizontally...suppose you hit your opponents into a wall(on corneria for example) and they don't tech and you cape them. That may speed up their momentum. test people

I've been trying to do this, but I fail at timing the cape to hit after the bounce.

 

[Ussi]

Mario has now risen to high tier in teams.

 

[Kanzaki]

I always say, Mario's good in teams :]

 

[Jakebudden]

This is amazing.... There is a video (that I can't find now) of bowser f-smashing a metaknight then a mario caping him right away for an instant death from 0%.

Nice find!

 

[Ussi]

Mario + Power character (IE Ike since all his moves kill) Just cape after Ike hits them.

 

[Matt07]

This is amazing.... There is a video (that I can't find now) of bowser f-smashing a metaknight then a mario caping him right away for an instant death from 0%.

Nice find!

Here's the video your looking for;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHoSiGiLIkg&feature=related

 

[boss8]

dude matt thats amazing

 

[KirinBlaze]

Here's the video your looking for;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHoSiGiLIkg&feature=related

wowowowowowowow. I'm showing this to Liquid_Gen so we can **** online with Mario/Bowser.

 

[Matt07]

I was trying to do this by myself, just to see if I could do it with other moves. I can't do it by myself lol O_o.