Ok stream of thought here we go. Starting back where I last left off:
-wtf you guys REALLY don't think there's a massive red flag with the Soup ****? When his reasoning was 'I used it to use it?' Boo hoo I know meta logic and whatever but come on, there's 0% chance of a town aligned day ending ability existing except to troll the players, and based off the flips we've seen thus far I
highly doubt a role with such arbitrary use would exist. A one shot scum ability, used really poorly for god knows what reason, is a **** TON more likely.
Man I didn't think I'd get caught back up in this but I mean come on, all this 'well I can see town motive behind it because it doesn't make sense as scum' stuff should be thrown out the window since it doesn't make sense
regardless of his alignment. Stack that mess with giving us no heads up on using it, and then randomly claiming but also offering no line of through behind the usage and I don't know how much it would take to make you look at the situation.
Here's the only hurdle left for the Soup thing I really think I need to touch on:
yu said my soup logic for his action bein likelier from town than scum is "full of holes" in that post above. im sayin the way he used it doesnt benefit scum NEARLY as much as it culd
*executes a ho
"hey guys i did that btw"
vs
*executes a townie in complete silence n gets away with it
thats wat im sayin
K, this is very true, but consider that the play was a bad play now matter how you approach it. It hurt town, but also would have hurt the mafia faction (assuming his one-shot claim was accurate and could have made for a much more optimal play). Hell, even as town that lynch was already secured and would have been a waste of an ability. The 'must be used on D1' clause is a convenient excuse to deflect off the question of 'why do it', so much so that (again) I doubt the ability is truly THAT restricted in its usage.
A TownSoup wouldn't pull the trigger, and even if he did there would have been reason to claim it beforehand and confirm the kill was sent by him. ScumSoup wouldn't pull the trigger since the lynch was already set and there's no reason to burn his ability OR even inform the town an execute is available at all.
Guys just look at the absurdity of how perfect the claim lines up to block out reasonable suspicions and it looks to me like someone spent their night phase building a cover for their gaff.
Unfortunately guys I found another post I want to respond to I promise this is (probably) the last one though
also can we NOT get ourselves wrapped up in claim bull****? why is so much energy being put into accusations off claims when that JUST ****ed up the dayphase yesterday? yall realize ryker just hosted a game that had tripwires for town to hit? takin over reliance on claim discussion as scummy considering this games makeup n i suggest other innocents do the same UNTIL we hav enough pieces of the puzzle that we might deduce something from it instead of rolling around in the dirt blind
This isn't UTrick'd. This game, to paraphrase Ryker himself, is designed to be enjoyable, interesting, and more importantly
balanced. Does a 'Last 2 irl Days of D1 Town Executor, otherwise VT' fit in this set up? We've seen not only four PR flips, but two more that have impacted the game (that I know of, Marshold's vote steal and the slot fusion thing). I'm comfortable saying based off the knowledge I have thus far no, it does not. In fact unless someone else has a restriction even modestly similar to that claimed one I'd say the tripwires argument holds no water.
Really though what else is new right, Glyph thinks Soup's claim was gross and pretty much nothing else so far. Lets squeeze some new content out if we can.
Later edit: And to be honest, I was expecting it to be not more of the same but OOPS it was more of the same.
-Nabe claimed Indy and is still alive??? How many times has that whole 'I was anti-town but now I promise I'm super good!' thing actually been true? I don't care when, but Nabe absolutely cannot be allowed to live til endgame and I'd even go as far as to say I'd be willing to lynch him based off the indy claim alone. As someone who's done it before, it does not go well for town.
Oh but there's even more! They're confirmed town to each other, which means if we kill Nabe we get a 100% clear on Bardull who's apparently important based of flavor. Or, what I find more likely, is we'll find the first of two indies who have another convenient means of keeping suspicion off themselves.
Oh god I'm just talking about another claim and how I don't like it again aren't I. Whatever deal with it nerds, I'll work with claims any day of the week since they're one of the only things we're ever going to get true confirmation of.
ALSO WHAT'S THIS
Most of the important people have said things and nobody is speaking up, so here's your bingo of the day: (I already made it clear enough it was PR related to not bother hiding it at this point)
I tracked Bardull/Nabe to Orboknown last night.
Vote: Bardull/Nabe
GEE AIN'T THAT SUSPICIOUS THAT THE POTENTIALLY INDY SLOT DONE PEEPED ON THAT DEAD GUY
vote: Bardull/Nabe
No thank you irt leaving this slot's giant liability alone any longer.
Then there's this Jexs claim but I don't think there's anything to mess with there. Unless he's like played a ton of mafia games (I don't think he has).
I'm down with doing a mass name claim, but if we agree to do so I want to make a post before the claims actually start.
Ok so where's that put me at:
Soup and Bardull need to die. Even if you think my case on Soup is full of big dumb stinky holes he's still massively inactive (lol) and thus a good target to bump off sooner than later.
I like Raziek a lot. Have all game, even the push on RR early on because I get it. I really do. I've played with both people in person and that reaction was one I don't think was out of character for townRaz.
Marshy I will speak on LATER for reasons that should be obvious
Everyone else is either dead or didn't do anything flashy enough to catch my eye during my readthrough.
