Vote: Chibo
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Bioware Mafia (ovah)
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Third time's the charm.
Honestly I'm good with just killing him at this point. Chibo's flailing in every direction he can.
lolwat @ "so obsessed with me dying". I have literally never pushed your lynch, ever, in this entire game. Hell I was giving you benefit of the dumbass for quite some time there. This is also the first time I've laid a vote down.
I'm starting to consider Chibo as an indy. That would explain the most bothersome aspect of him being scum -- how utterly terrible his play has been. After all, what scumbuddy wouldn't etc etc etc. Indy Chibo doesn't have anybody to hold his hand through endgame, and that could explain why he's sputtering all over the place, throwing attention in any direction he can, be it through wagon hopping, lurking, reactive playing, and anything else in the book.
lolwat @ "so obsessed with me dying". I have literally never pushed your lynch, ever, in this entire game. Hell I was giving you benefit of the dumbass for quite some time there. This is also the first time I've laid a vote down.
I'm starting to consider Chibo as an indy. That would explain the most bothersome aspect of him being scum -- how utterly terrible his play has been. After all, what scumbuddy wouldn't etc etc etc. Indy Chibo doesn't have anybody to hold his hand through endgame, and that could explain why he's sputtering all over the place, throwing attention in any direction he can, be it through wagon hopping, lurking, reactive playing, and anything else in the book.
Overswarm
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Journal Entry, October 6th, 11:33 p.m.
How about you NOT post random bull**** and expect a bunch of other people to finish what you start? You think EE is scum? Say so. Make a case.
He said as he rubbed his chin knowingly
How about you NOT post random bull**** and expect a bunch of other people to finish what you start? You think EE is scum? Say so. Make a case.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
No I don't think EE is scum atm, but I don't like that play of his regardless
either way, I am Sonic from The Dark Brotherhood. I'm an even night commuter. I did indeed choose to leave town last night but was here night 1 which is when I was vote blocked.
either way, I am Sonic from The Dark Brotherhood. I'm an even night commuter. I did indeed choose to leave town last night but was here night 1 which is when I was vote blocked.
Tandora
Smash Rookie
UNVOTE
I need to think about this and don't want Chibo hammered before I have had some time.
I need to think about this and don't want Chibo hammered before I have had some time.
Swiss
Smash Lord
I need to know what an even night commuter is.
Unvote cuz I'm not X-dumb
Unvote cuz I'm not X-dumb
@Chibo What's an even night commuter? Just like Swiss I have no idea what this means. Give only some details if you feel scum has something to gain from knowing every detail that town doesn't and just leave certain parts out, at least until the deadline's closer and its more apparent you'd still be lynched.
@Nix - Tandora asked for the game, there's not a large amount of possible scum left thought I'd give my name claim in addtn to the game I'm from. Also have you caught up, I'd like to see what you think about regarding the events of Day 2 and who you think is scum.
@Nix - Tandora asked for the game, there's not a large amount of possible scum left thought I'd give my name claim in addtn to the game I'm from. Also have you caught up, I'd like to see what you think about regarding the events of Day 2 and who you think is scum.
A "commuter" is a role that leaves during night time to remain unaffected by night actions. If he's an "even night commuter" that means that he leaves on all even nights.
It's a very safe and hard claim to verify.
I wouldn't mind being investigated toNight btw. Since we already lynched the godfather there should be no case of confusion. If Tandora investigates me and gets the inno we can also pseudo-confirm her sanity. Since she already has 2 innos and gets a third one that'd mean there'd be 3 scumbags left [in case she's insane], which is pretty much out of the question as we already lynched two.
With that "clear" on Tandora we can also clear EE, GBoy and myself at the same time and [without trying to blow my own horn too much] I think it would be REALLY beneficial for town to have clearedGheb in endgame - with the Doc alive, there's even a chance that clearedEE and clearedGheb will both be alive during lylo and I think that'd be the ideal case if it actually comes down to lylo.
With that said, I think Tandora should investigate me [imo the most effective investigation] while the Doc absolutely MUST protect her. If we have at least 2 guaranteed innocents toMorrow, we're in a great position. Overswarm should investigate EP and if he's innocent too, then SC or MS are the plays. I want EP investigated because I find him somewhat hard to trust but he looks like a smart player at the same time. Being able to trust him will be more helpful than trusting MS [whom I wouldn't trust even if there WAS an inno on him] or SC whose input was not on the same level as EPs imo.
tl;dr Tandora investigate me - OS investigate EP
I really think that this course of actions will help us to win the game
It's a very safe and hard claim to verify.
I wouldn't mind being investigated toNight btw. Since we already lynched the godfather there should be no case of confusion. If Tandora investigates me and gets the inno we can also pseudo-confirm her sanity. Since she already has 2 innos and gets a third one that'd mean there'd be 3 scumbags left [in case she's insane], which is pretty much out of the question as we already lynched two.
With that "clear" on Tandora we can also clear EE, GBoy and myself at the same time and [without trying to blow my own horn too much] I think it would be REALLY beneficial for town to have clearedGheb in endgame - with the Doc alive, there's even a chance that clearedEE and clearedGheb will both be alive during lylo and I think that'd be the ideal case if it actually comes down to lylo.
With that said, I think Tandora should investigate me [imo the most effective investigation] while the Doc absolutely MUST protect her. If we have at least 2 guaranteed innocents toMorrow, we're in a great position. Overswarm should investigate EP and if he's innocent too, then SC or MS are the plays. I want EP investigated because I find him somewhat hard to trust but he looks like a smart player at the same time. Being able to trust him will be more helpful than trusting MS [whom I wouldn't trust even if there WAS an inno on him] or SC whose input was not on the same level as EPs imo.
tl;dr Tandora investigate me - OS investigate EP
I really think that this course of actions will help us to win the game
Chibo's hesitation to claim, then eventually divulging a claim that we'd have to let him live until day ****ing five to verify, makes me feel very good about him as the play toDay.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
Hesitation? I was never at L-1 even once until I did claim. As soon as I was I had no problem doing so.
Overswarm
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Journal Entry, October 7th, 8:37 a.m.
It's very simple. What do we lose by lynching Chibo? Absolutely nothing. He hasn't been a help, his power isn't a help, and he's suspicious and we can't verify until day 5.
What do we gain? Possible scum kill, one less useless townie when the numbers dwindle down.
I'll choose who I investigate, Gheb. If mafia happen to kill who I'm going to investigate, I'd be put in the position of saying "my power didn't work" the next Day. This would either get me lynched (likely), or have me wait to use it the next day where the same possibility arises. I'd rather not announce to scum what their best play is. Killing who I investigate would result in no investigation for me and then my lynch the next day and a free NKill for scum. While Tandora is in the most danger toDay if she's a cop, it is entirely possible that gordito is a recruited player and they feel safe having a cop around, as the cop wouldn't waste an investigation on Gordito again. This means there is a possibility of me getting blocked via a NKill.
If they have a roleblocker, we lose Tandora and I'm roleblocked, which would suck balls. If there is a tracker/watcher, you should really try to verify what happens to me and/or Tandora.
It's very simple. What do we lose by lynching Chibo? Absolutely nothing. He hasn't been a help, his power isn't a help, and he's suspicious and we can't verify until day 5.
What do we gain? Possible scum kill, one less useless townie when the numbers dwindle down.
I'll choose who I investigate, Gheb. If mafia happen to kill who I'm going to investigate, I'd be put in the position of saying "my power didn't work" the next Day. This would either get me lynched (likely), or have me wait to use it the next day where the same possibility arises. I'd rather not announce to scum what their best play is. Killing who I investigate would result in no investigation for me and then my lynch the next day and a free NKill for scum. While Tandora is in the most danger toDay if she's a cop, it is entirely possible that gordito is a recruited player and they feel safe having a cop around, as the cop wouldn't waste an investigation on Gordito again. This means there is a possibility of me getting blocked via a NKill.
If they have a roleblocker, we lose Tandora and I'm roleblocked, which would suck balls. If there is a tracker/watcher, you should really try to verify what happens to me and/or Tandora.
Mad Scummy
Swiss|X1-12
Definitely the best lynch option toDay and with the deadline this close its the best thing to do.
Vote: vVvChiboSempai
Vote: vVvChiboSempai
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
you're barking up the wrong tree...
can people actually pinpoint what i have done thats scummy? People just dont like my town play with periods of inactivity here and there but at this point (anytime passed day 1, maybe day 2 imo) it's best to go off of scumtells not poor town play. have people even tried to relate me to the past scum kills in this game thus far? not that iv seen.
can people actually pinpoint what i have done thats scummy? People just dont like my town play with periods of inactivity here and there but at this point (anytime passed day 1, maybe day 2 imo) it's best to go off of scumtells not poor town play. have people even tried to relate me to the past scum kills in this game thus far? not that iv seen.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
btw i tried to breadcrumb my role character here for what its worthMy posts weren't all that great in FF4, but I did what I did best - pegged scum. And I never made a public case on Praxis because everyone thought he was town so if I tried to make a scum case (though I did allude to it), everyone would have thought I was scum. So I chose the easier route, and took things into my own hands
I'm not going to say I couldn't pull off a "stupid town charade" because I'm sure I could, I've been playing mafia here for well over a year now. I generally stay quiet-ish or not make the best posts until I either find a key scumtell to act on or the game starts to dwindle down in numbers.
The reason I'm voting Nix is because "omg gtfo chibo you don't have a vote down and a solid stance on anyone yet blaaaarg"
I'm also eagerly awaiting to see what happens with The Guide.
Now if you excuse me I'm going back to playing my Genesis
yeaaaaaaa
*cool shades*
There's a difference between being inactive and what you've been doing. If you realize that you're inactive to a troublesome extent [which you have been by all means] then you don't dodge prod all your way into Day 3 without doing ANYTHING, which is exactly what you've been doing.
Seriously, you can't expect to get a free ride all the way here just to draw the "inactivity isn't a scumtell" card and then get away with it.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Both of you, randomize your investigations as much as possible, I have no interest in a clear being wasted on being NK'd.
I'm really hoping for Tandora getting a guilty because then one lynch with tell us insane or sane and then from there we're pretty much in the clear.
From there we can follow the cop and kill unconfirmed in order of scummyness unless a reason to distrust tand's claim comes up which I doubt.
I'm really hoping for Tandora getting a guilty because then one lynch with tell us insane or sane and then from there we're pretty much in the clear.
From there we can follow the cop and kill unconfirmed in order of scummyness unless a reason to distrust tand's claim comes up which I doubt.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
It's odd that ppl keep bringing up activity as much as they do as I don't even feel like I'm the most inactive player today, and I decided to check into that. I've posted 36 times today (this is my 37th). Soviet Coffee for instance has only posted 17 times, and that's surprising compared to me coming from a hydra account. Yes their posts do have some more content than mine, but considering it's two players playing one role, the ability to discuss ideas with their other, etc. Also the amount of posts is important as it shows how often they are here responding, touching on all cases. To say I've been unhelpful and incredibly inactive is wrong.
Overswarm
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Journal Entry, October 7th, 12:34 p.m.
Gone is any sense of urgency. Having to choose between letting Chibo live or die, I think having him die at this point is the logical conclusion. Even the most cautious of players has to admit that no one really has anything on Chibo. Better he die now than allow a potential scum to survive or allow scum to bring us to lylo with townies we know nothing about it.
Survival is a poor strategy for townies. Allow yourself to make progress and stick your neck out to help town. If you die via NKill, you die via NKill. Scuttling about helps no one unless your role is actually useful, of which Chibo's is not.
Gone is any sense of urgency. Having to choose between letting Chibo live or die, I think having him die at this point is the logical conclusion. Even the most cautious of players has to admit that no one really has anything on Chibo. Better he die now than allow a potential scum to survive or allow scum to bring us to lylo with townies we know nothing about it.
Survival is a poor strategy for townies. Allow yourself to make progress and stick your neck out to help town. If you die via NKill, you die via NKill. Scuttling about helps no one unless your role is actually useful, of which Chibo's is not.
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
Supposed to be on hydra.
Number of posts is a very poor measure of activity, content is what matters, and you've posted 0 content.
Frankly, if that's your role, you should've been posting as pro-town as possible in order to ATTRACT potential nks so they'd fail when you're commuting. I see it as far more useful scum role, especially with multiple factions/a vig (I've had a commutter scumbuddy if anyone wants to look at my mafia-scum games). Your play doesn't match up with your claim.
Also, I find it amusing that you reference to "shaya should be helping me post more" when you should know from his activity level in the BBR games that shaya's pretty much a non-factor, and I'm also V/LA.
Soviet Coffee
Adumbrodeus|Shaya
Urgh, supposed to be on hydra.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
I can't help activity at times
I've done scumhunting and provided my thoughts on things and such. To say I've done 0 is a ridiculous exageration
I've done scumhunting and provided my thoughts on things and such. To say I've done 0 is a ridiculous exageration
While I don't think Chibo's any more useless than Nix, his claimed ability isn't that useful to town when he's near the top of towns lynch candidates, in addition to what OS & Gheb said that we can't really verify it effectively. Also good to know Chibo isn't doc. If he has to be the play so be it, it's a decent play in light of his claim, because doc can still protect someone Tonight, possibly one of our two investigative roles.
@Mad scummy - are swiss and x1 completely at odds against each other? U guys keep voting and unvoting and saying opposite things about chibo. that'll make analysis after lynch almost impossible. I sure hope its not intentional.
@Mad scummy - are swiss and x1 completely at odds against each other? U guys keep voting and unvoting and saying opposite things about chibo. that'll make analysis after lynch almost impossible. I sure hope its not intentional.
And so Vote: Chibo
Swiss
Smash Lord
Unvote Chibo
I explained to X-dumb why.
Sure, he may be dumb, but how this makes him the best lynch I am yet to know.
I explained to X-dumb why.
Sure, he may be dumb, but how this makes him the best lynch I am yet to know.
Swiss
Smash Lord
Y'all said why he ain't he hain't that useful.
'Course the chump been a bender.
'Course the chump been a bender.
Soviet Coffee
Adumbrodeus|Shaya
@Swiss, you realize that the deadline is today in 2 and a half hours right?
Who exactly do you propose as an altnerative lynch that we can get in time? It's process of elimination right now, he's unconfirmed and is scummy, IIRC he's at l-1.
Beyond that he played totally counter to his PR so his claim smells something fierce.
And he's made himself unreadable.
He's likely scum, and pretty much the only viable lynch option now, lynch him.
Who exactly do you propose as an altnerative lynch that we can get in time? It's process of elimination right now, he's unconfirmed and is scummy, IIRC he's at l-1.
Beyond that he played totally counter to his PR so his claim smells something fierce.
And he's made himself unreadable.
He's likely scum, and pretty much the only viable lynch option now, lynch him.
Soviet Coffee
Adumbrodeus|Shaya
Seperated out for effect.
DEADLINE IS OCTOBER 7th at 11:00
Hammer plz (remember I'm voteblocked).
DEADLINE IS OCTOBER 7th at 11:00
Hammer plz (remember I'm voteblocked).
Commuter is a good power for an indy in a game with not only mafia to consider, but a voteblocker and possibly a vig as well. Agreed @ Soviet that his play has been totally counter to his protown abilities, not that I haven't seen that before with a dumbtown commuter.
What's bothering me more than anything about his claim is that he claimed even night commuter. We'd be forced to let him live until D5 to verify this claim, whereas if it weren't restricted by even nights, we could send the voteblocker upon him toNight to verify it, which buys him no productive amount of extra time.
Also, hasn't Chibo already been lynched? I put him at L-1, Tando unvoted, X1 votes (L-1 again) and Ed hammered.
What's bothering me more than anything about his claim is that he claimed even night commuter. We'd be forced to let him live until D5 to verify this claim, whereas if it weren't restricted by even nights, we could send the voteblocker upon him toNight to verify it, which buys him no productive amount of extra time.
Also, hasn't Chibo already been lynched? I put him at L-1, Tando unvoted, X1 votes (L-1 again) and Ed hammered.
Soviet Coffee
Adumbrodeus|Shaya
l-3 last vote count
No, Edrees didn't hammer and with Mad scummy's unvote it's l-2.
We need two more votes, NOW!
l-2
l-1
l-2
l-3
l-2
l-1
No, Edrees didn't hammer and with Mad scummy's unvote it's l-2.
We need two more votes, NOW!
Tandora
Smash Rookie
VOTE CHIBO
Still a bit uneasy on Chibo's faction, but in the end he just needs to go.
Still a bit uneasy on Chibo's faction, but in the end he just needs to go.
Nix2100
Smash Rookie
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Holy Crap....I feel uncomfortable hammering considering my status lately but with a hour till the deadline I suppose there's no choice.
Also...for the record >_> Trying to figure out what the crap has happened while being doped up on pain drugs is a interesting experience.....I'm totally calling it now, Hydra's = Scum Team. Its truth.
Vote: Chibo
Still catching up Pieces...I know you'll keep pestering me until I am =p Much appreciated.
Also...for the record >_> Trying to figure out what the crap has happened while being doped up on pain drugs is a interesting experience.....I'm totally calling it now, Hydra's = Scum Team. Its truth.
Vote: Chibo
Still catching up Pieces...I know you'll keep pestering me until I am =p Much appreciated.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
gj lynching based off someone you think is useless and not scummy
not good play imo, especially on day 3
there are plenty worse ppl that could have gone
i HIGHLY suggest you continue to dig deeper into Overswarm
not good play imo, especially on day 3
there are plenty worse ppl that could have gone
i HIGHLY suggest you continue to dig deeper into Overswarm
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
Guys...
I think we made a mistake.
I think we made a mistake.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
Ninja'd.
We DID make a mistake.
We DID make a mistake.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
btw im not "quitting" or anything, thats just a funny pic i found while searching google that seems almost related
Tandora
Smash Rookie
Look, Chibo, I felt you were probably town faction, but there were too many people who were focused on you. We were not gonna get anywhere until we KNEW what your faction was. Granted, I can investigate, but I don't know if a) I am gonna live, b) if I won't be RB and c) I'd like to be able to continue the game forward. It does hurt town to lose a townie, but we have a little leeway for that at this time. We obviously cannot keep up this pace, but it was a calculated risk.
You need to learn how to play more protown to avoid these kind of bad lynches.
You need to learn how to play more protown to avoid these kind of bad lynches.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
i didnt do anything scummy imo, i feel like most players are too quick to think something is scummy
also even if you think im town or whoever (since u werent the only one), not killing a townie is still better than killing them in the long run
especially when there are "2" cops about, and tonight is a night I wasn't allowed to leave town
also even if you think im town or whoever (since u werent the only one), not killing a townie is still better than killing them in the long run
especially when there are "2" cops about, and tonight is a night I wasn't allowed to leave town
Final Vote count
[6]ChiboSempai: Gheb_01, Overswarm, ronEEke, Edreesespieces, Tandora, Nix2100
[1]Overswarm: ChiboSempai
[0]Edreesespieces:
[0]Tandora:
[0]Soviet Coffee(AdumbroDeus/Shaya hydra):
[0]ronEEke:
[0]Nix2100:
[0]Gheb_01:
[0]GorditoBoy69:
[0]Mad Scummy (Swiss/X1-12 hydra):
[3]Not Voting: SovietCoffee, GorditoBoy69, Mad Scummy
After their successes in defeating two enemies, a new life was sparked in the crowd. They discussed everything from the possible abilities of Sovreign, to claims of abilities from some, and to the fact that one of them seemed to be lagging behind. The town turned to face him, and questioned his absence. He built up votes, and while he pleaded with them, explained to them that he was Sonic, and while they questioned for a bit they settled for him.
As the town started toward him, Sonic(ChiboSempai, Town Commuter) exclaimed "You're too slow!" and took off running. Unfortunately for him, they weren't too slow. In fact, they were quite fast. And before long, he lay dead, and the town knew they had made a mistake.
Night 3 begins! Night actions due 10/10 11PM CST
[6]ChiboSempai: Gheb_01, Overswarm, ronEEke, Edreesespieces, Tandora, Nix2100
[1]Overswarm: ChiboSempai
[0]Edreesespieces:
[0]Tandora:
[0]Soviet Coffee(AdumbroDeus/Shaya hydra):
[0]ronEEke:
[0]Nix2100:
[0]Gheb_01:
[0]GorditoBoy69:
[0]Mad Scummy (Swiss/X1-12 hydra):
[3]Not Voting: SovietCoffee, GorditoBoy69, Mad Scummy
After their successes in defeating two enemies, a new life was sparked in the crowd. They discussed everything from the possible abilities of Sovreign, to claims of abilities from some, and to the fact that one of them seemed to be lagging behind. The town turned to face him, and questioned his absence. He built up votes, and while he pleaded with them, explained to them that he was Sonic, and while they questioned for a bit they settled for him.
As the town started toward him, Sonic(ChiboSempai, Town Commuter) exclaimed "You're too slow!" and took off running. Unfortunately for him, they weren't too slow. In fact, they were quite fast. And before long, he lay dead, and the town knew they had made a mistake.
Night 3 begins! Night actions due 10/10 11PM CST