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ronEEke

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Journal Entry, September 23rd, 2:14 p.m.

unvote vote Junglefever

What's the deal with people not answering others criticisms? It seems everyone is just ignoring claims against them.
If this is at us and your 671, we were neither desperate nor did we have our minds made up. That sense of urgency you mistook for having our minds made up is the result of trying to get an actual scummy wagon through in 2 days.

Oh, and funny note: All those posts of mine that you said "reek of AtE and pressure"? Yeah, EE made all those.
 

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Journal Entry, September 23rd, 2:51


I wonder if Gheb would like to be friends? If not, I think he'd need to die tomorrow. What's the play for tomorrow if Cheese flips town?
 

#HBC | Gorf

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@OS

What is your need to "make a friend"? I'm not saying scummy or anything, I just have no idea what you mean lmao.
 

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Journal Entry, September 23rd, 2:55 p.m.

Gordito asked toDay what I meant by "maek a friend". It becomes much easier to determine who is scum when you find a player whose alignment you think you know and simply discuss openly and trust them based on their alignment. The other player generally needs to reciprocate for this to work. Thought everyone knew that.
 

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[6]eXpiRed_CheEezCaKe-- (Guus/Vrael hydra): Dr. Riddler, Mad Scummy, GorditoBoy69, Edreesespieces, Nix2100, Goomba!
[3]Junglefever: SovietCoffee, Tandora, Overswarm
[2]Nix2100: eXpiRed_CheEzCake--, Junglefever
[1]Tandora: ronEEke
[0]ronEEke:
[0]ChiboSempai:
[0]Soviet Coffee(AdumbroDeus/Shaya hydra):
[0]Goomba! (Tom/Gheb_01 hydra):
[0]GorditoBoy69:
[0]Dr. Riddler (Macman/Riddle hydra):
[0]Edreesespieces:
[0]Overswarm:
[0]Mad Scummy (Swiss/X1-12 hydra):


[1]Not Voting: ChiboSempai


A deadline is set for September 23rd, 2010 at 11:59PM CST.

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!
 

#HBC | Gorf

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What makes you so sure of his alignment? Especially when you say this, following your friend proposal:

If not, I think he'd need to die tomorrow.
That's, like, a huge contradiction. If you're so sure of his alignment, and he DIDN'T wanna make friends, wouldn't it still be wise to agree with him, just not openly discuss opinions?
 

Soviet Coffee

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Let me ask you guys this, why are we again going for a probably dumb town as opposed to the scummy lurkers?

Seriously, Cheeze has done very little to suggest he's actually scum and a lot to suggest he's simply the easy target of the day.


EE's thoughts, which I completely agree with. Did we just miss the case?

Soviet, I don't even understand your 7O8, could you clarify please?
Mad Scummy suggested that you pushed a flashy case out of your *** in order to protect Cheeze, I said that if you did, it was a lot more likely that it was to protect yourself and potentially jungle since you were a lynch target.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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I'll be cool with having a case up on Cheesecake. But I'm at a friends house. If Cheese isn't lynched by the time I get home, I'll be glad to do an entire reread on him.

But from what I can get off the top of my head...

Cheesecakes been mad wagon hopping.
Cheesecakes done nothing but parrot.
Cheesecakes only really comes out when he's called.
Cheesecake doesn't really make any personal leads. Just hides behind wagons, fake contributing.
Moreorless whatever Jungle can be accused of, Cheesecake can be accused of too.
 

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Something's not right here. Have we all forgotten about Chibo? He has not posted once in almost 3 days here and he doesn't have a single vote...despite the suggestion of lynching an inactive player floating around constantly? And like everybody mentioned at some point they'd be OK with his lynch too.

Odd.

:059:
 

ronEEke

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Wow, you guys love makin us laugh huh?

EE said:
If we were scum trying to distract from cheese, why would we put off making that distraction? It's pretty clear we genuinely were not caught up.

Oh but sure we could be scum and not caught up.

Then why make a case against a non-convenient target in the first place? Anyone that tries to suggest Tando was a convenient target is completely ********.

Also, why make that case and actively try to push her lynch, rather than make our case and ease into a coast to the end of the Day? Hell, putting a case on someone and them NOT ending up lynched is GOOD for scum.
For the record, if Tandora really isn't gonna fly, we'd much rather lynch jungle than Cheeze. Cheeze seems to be posting when he can and just seems kinda in a daze. Jungle on the other hand was on all the time yesterday while the whole tando business was goin on [as seen via AIM activity] and never thought to chime in.

And before anyone tries to spin THIS on us, we read dumbtown on expired, null uberlurker on JF, and scum on Tandora. What we're taking is the most protown action possible from our point of view. We would MUCH rather see Tando get lynched, but no one seems to agree with us and we are pretty much outta time...
 

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Journal Entry, September 23rd, 3:14

I would rather see Jungle dead myself.

unvote vote cheesecake

Deadline is toDay, we need the Day to end with a lynch.
 

CT Chia

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Something's not right here. Have we all forgotten about Chibo? He has not posted once in almost 3 days here and he doesn't have a single vote...despite the suggestion of lynching an inactive player floating around constantly? And like everybody mentioned at some point they'd be OK with his lynch too.

Odd.

:059:
I'm still here and have read every post. I just haven't found anything I really need to chime in on. If I had to pick one of the 2 lynch candidates (well, the two most popular ones at least this close to the deadline) it would be Cheesecake.
 

Soviet Coffee

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They're pretty close, I'll hammer cheeze if necessary (we have a little less then 5 hours atm) cause we obviously can't afford a no lynch, but I'll reiterate, why are we going after dumbtown AGAIN?
 

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Soviet's been after jungle rather than cheez, despite cheez wagon gaining support. Both Gheb and OS switched their votes to Cheez from jungle, in order to complete the lynch. Heck I did the same, switching from Nix to Cheese recently. soviets stuck and not willing to budge from jungle.
 

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Chibo, thoughts on Tandora case?
Tandora and Cheesecake are my top two picks, wouldn't mind either

Your tldr post (though I did read the long one) sums it up best: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=11242777&postcount=638

It stuck out to me obviously personally when he voted me in Day 2 for practically nothing. Just a really wishy washy player going after easy lynches, and I don't particularly like his defenses that much.

But since Cheesecake was just hammered :/
 

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Death scene coming up soon as I get everything typed up as well as the final vote count together. It'll be up within an hour.
 

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Final Vote count

[7]eXpiRed_CheEezCaKe-- (Guus/Vrael hydra): Dr. Riddler, Mad Scummy, GorditoBoy69, Edreesespieces, Nix2100, Overswarm, Goomba!
[2]Junglefever: SovietCoffee, Tandora
[2]Nix2100: eXpiRed_CheEzCake--, Junglefever
[1]Tandora: ronEEke
[0]ronEEke:
[0]ChiboSempai:
[0]Soviet Coffee(AdumbroDeus/Shaya hydra):
[0]Goomba! (Tom/Gheb_01 hydra):
[0]GorditoBoy69:
[0]Dr. Riddler (Macman/Riddle hydra):
[0]Edreesespieces:
[0]Overswarm:
[0]Mad Scummy (Swiss/X1-12 hydra):


[1]Not Voting: ChiboSempai


As day wore on all those remaining seemed indecisive. At times some of them would wander off for extreme periods, needing to be pushed back into the conversation. As dusk began to fall, they needed to decide what they were going to do quick. In the late moments, they were convinced of one person: Expired_Cheeezcake.

They gathered around him and began to truly realize his form. As he came into clarity they gasped. For this was the face of evil. It took the combined power of all those present to bring down the creature in front of him. Finally the battle was won. Expired_Cheeezcake(Archdemon, Mafia Godfather) has been lynched!

The assembled crew rejoiced, at least, those who were not aligned with the beast. But the day had worn tough and their revelry was shortlived, and they retired for the night early. But some did not rest. Some were hiding voicing their distaste for the results of the day, and plotting their revenge.

Night 2 begins! All night actions due in 72 hours(9/26, 11:00 PM CST)
 

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The day begins to break. People awake slowly and wander outside. They find the brutally mangled form of Dr. Riddler(Silk Fox, vanilla townie) lying on the ground. As they mourned their loss another sight caught their eye.

Their eyes turned to the horizon where a titan of a ship was falling. They saw explosions emitting throughout the hull. The ship, which looked a little bit like a cuttlefish, was falling fast, but before it could hit the ground, a blast blew straight through it's core shattering it to millions of pieces. When they looked around, they realized this must have been the form of Junglefever(Sovreign, mafia indoctrinator). You really think they would have been able to tell one of them was a mammoth starship, but hey, I guess they've got some pretty severe cases of amnesia.

Day 3 begins! with 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

A deadline is set for October 7th at 11:59:59 PM CST.
 

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Wow we were on 2 of mafia's ***** for a possible lynch, town's owning this game. I'd also wonder what an indoctrinator is?

Vote: RonEEke

Why did you try to distract town from a Jungle or Cheese lynch? It was apparant these one of these two would be lynched, and you suddenly throw this mondo aggressive case on Tandora. Looks very suspicous - explain the timing here because it doesn't look very good for you.
 

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Normally I'm not a fan of using flavor, but since Mafiascum's wiki has nothin' on Indoctrinators, I think it's worth usin' here.

In Mass Effect 1 the Big Bad was a sentient ship named Sovereign that was all evil and stuff. One plot point of particular note was that Sovereign had some sort of crazy mind control **** he could use on people on board ... himself. That is awkward to say. Anyways, people slowly had their free will ground down until they were zombies if they spent time on the ship/Sovereign, and this process was called being "indoctrinated".

So, I think we had a mafia recruiter in play, I think "indoctrinator" was just a flavory new name for it, and now he's out. The question is now whether he fired off a recruit on N1. Thoughts?

And yeah yeah, I know we have to answer to our stance on Cheez. Well, there isn't much to say. Cheez said some **** that felt off now and then, but going purely with gut hasn't really served me all that well, so I try to go with hard analysis, and always prioritize that over gut. And from analysis, I didn't really see much on Cheez. Just a dazed and confused dumbtown.

That said I feel pretty god **** good about what has happened, and good job nailing Cheez, boys.
 

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Observation: D1 OS wanted to possibly hold hands with Praxis, Praxis dies.
D2 OS wants to possibly hold hands with Dr Riddler, Dr Riddler.

Just noting something I noticed, not sure what to make of it. Maybe someone just doesn't want OS to find a gay hand buddy, maybe scum is picking targets labelled as town (not just by OS but by others) etc etc..it could be anything really, but I just thought I'd highlight the trend.
 

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Ron what I'm wondering is why didn't you put your case on Tan earlier in the Day? Your post attacking her highlighted things she's been doing since Day 1 and through plenty of Day 2, but you waited until Cheese had 3 votes to throw your case, despite massive inactivity by both you and the person you replaced. Just overall seems fishy as hell to me.
 

ronEEke

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Bah, ninja'd.

Edreeses said:
Why did you try to distract town from a Jungle or Cheese lynch?
1. It didn't seem all that apparent to me.

2. We had to make up for lost time.

3. Tando looked very scummy to us.

4. (a) This is a pretty blatant spin on what happened. The point was not any kind of attempt to "distract" from anything. The point was to promote a lynch candidate we found scummy. Our reads were dumbtown on Cheez, null on jungle, and scum on Tandora.

4. (b) I'm pretty sure I speak for both of us when I say that we have no desire to protect a lynch candidate that is absolutely null -- and maybe not even one that leans slightly dumbtown, in a non-mylo situation, as long as there's any doubt. The only gameplan was lynching someone we found scummy and antitown, and had nothing to do with either of the other two. Period.

4. (c) We quite clearly expressed that we would support a jungle backup lynch, then a Cheez lynch crashed in like a tidal wave and that was the end of that. Again, you're spinning. You can doubt our motives in what we said, but you cannot deny the clear facts that were present.

You don't have to like that explanation, but you can't deny that from a town POV, based on the reads we've provided (and provided on D2, I might add, Mr. Forgetfulpants), we were taking the protown action.

Edreeses said:
It was apparant these one of these two would be lynched, and you suddenly throw this mondo aggressive case on Tandora. Looks very suspicous - explain the timing here because it doesn't look very good for you.
The only thing that was apparent to me was that the town was bouncing plenty of suspects around like pinballs, waiting to see which one popped into the bonus chute. The case was "mondo aggressive" because it was two days before deadline, which we'd already asserted as when we'd be coming back in proper.

I could ask you why you were pushing a Nix wagon in the 11th hour, when this dilution of momentum could very well have diverted the lynch into less favorable waters. In fact, I think I will, because I don't adequately understand where that came from or what you were trying to accomplish.
 
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