Bioware Mafia (ovah)

[Dr. Riddler]

undergoin rereadin nwow

well not now specifically

like now within the next day

 

[Praxis]

Welcome back, oh questionable one.

 

[Mad Scummy]

Who breadcrumbs a ****ing evil robot obsessed with killing as a vanilla townie role? Swords, you actually have all the mental capacity of a small biscuit.

Lmao'd at our #382

 

[Dr. Riddler]

FoS Mad Scummy

Not even 12 hours passed since he posted last time and you already try to nudge him so blatantly? Not to mention that there was actually very little concrete pressure on him - more open questions than actual accusations. Trying to act funny [which you are absolutely horrible at] will not change that you're making yourself look stupid.

If you weren't outrageously bad at mafia I would have a much easier time on deciding between the never-ending "dumb" or "scum" issue...

lol ****...

 

[Dr. Riddler]

Great. I reread right after someone dies
i'll post my thoughts anyways

I'm very curious about your thoughts on what's going on recently. You haven't added all that much and while you do have a point @ Cheesecake I'm wondering if you vote was still there if you were actually caught up [which I somewhat doubt; you're quite behind in FFVII too]. It would be nice to hear whom you consider scum as you're ono of the more experienced players here.

This was riddle btw. Don't let the quad posting fool you.

I'm not buying that "Sword is probably dumbtown". He's been around here for such a long time now that I can't accept the newbie card being drawn in his case.

Digging out old posts [from like the beginning of the day] is like the most obvious scumtell ever - it's like textbook scum play 1 by 1. Making a big case out of nowhere where he randomly choses some of Praxis' less "inspired" posts [for the lack of a better word] two days before the deadlie ... I don't even know how to call that. It's hypocritical. It's EXCLUSIVELY self-preservation [something a townie should never be concerned with]. A big case, most of it COMPLETE garbage to get somebody else lynched two days before the deadline WHILE BEING A STRONG CONTENTER FOR THE LYNCH HIMSELF ... that's not dumbtown; that's obvscum.

I was going to be one of the, 'I think swords is dumbtown'. But this post convinced me to ignore that notion. I was going to hop on the swords wagon at the end of this post. But theres no point now since he's been lynched.

of course i'm sorry about the inactivity. Was just too easy to put this game off. but um

I think tandora is obvtown. Overswarm was pretty townie to me too, and I love how he's posting. But either he got bored or stopped caring or didn't feel pressured any more and now his posts feel less inspired. Maybe he really is just waiting for the day to end to get new info. On my townie list as well.

I was a tiny bit suspect of EP at first but he made a post that seemed to line up with my own thoughts while I was reading, which makes me feel more comfortable about him.

Do not like expiredcheese at all. And it's completely gut.

g2g to class

 

[Dr. Riddler]

also why does chibo always appear to be scum in every game he's in

 

[Dr. Riddler]

dunno how I feel about Goombaby. I like their posts, but I have no read on their alignment. I like that there was one point where they advocated my lynch. Which would be weird I think if it never happened.

i also believe swords is town like he claimed.

I had thoughts on other players but they got lost in my head as i continued rereading

 

[Tandora]

I feel Swords has only himself to blame. If he hadn't disappeared like he did, he may have been able to turn the tide. Time was running out and he was not giving any info. We may have had two more days, but we were already on extension and I personally was getting into the "Let's just to to night phase already!"

Thanks for giving us your flip, Swords.

 

[Praxis]

I feel similarly; Swords made scumtells, and then refused to address them. Swords failed to play for town by refusing to contribute.

Swords, if you want to use your twilight period to give any last thoughts on people, since you're confirmed town? Is there anyone else you felt suspicious of?

 

[mentosman8]

Vote count

[8]SwordsRBroken: Goomba!, Edreesespieces, Mad Scummy, GorditoBoy69, Praxis, Tandora, eXpiRed_CheEzCake--, Overswarm
[2]ChiboSempai: SovietCoffee, SirBedevere
[1]eXpiRed_CheEezCaKe-- (Guus/Vrael hydra): Dr. Riddler
[1]Praxis: SwordsRBroken
[1]Nix2100: ChiboSempai
[0]GorditoBoy69:
[0]Goomba! (Tom/Gheb_01 hydra):
[0]Dr. Riddler (Macman/Riddle hydra):
[0]ronEEke:
[0]Soviet Coffee(AdumbroDeus/Shaya hydra):
[0]Edreesespieces:
[0]Overswarm:
[0]Sir Bedevere:
[0]Mad Scummy (Swiss/X1-12 hydra):
[0]Tandora:

[2]Not Voting: ronEEke, Nix2100

The group gathered around and discussed which of them they felt was part of the evil that brought them all here. Suspicions danced around like wildfire between them shooting from person to person. At one point, they made note of votes not being kept track of well, and one of them who seemed non-existant with how little he was adding. As if some all-powerful force intervened, tabulations of the votes came more consistently and the person who was almost MIA seemed like a whole new person. And the people rejoiced.

Then, they began to slowly creep toward a consensus. As more and more of them began to vote they should remove one of those present, he began to slink into the shadows and stop responding. Accusations continued to build up, including how he seemed to occasionally talk in a vaguely familiar way that they associated with evil. Finally, after someone cast a majority vote claiming it was accidental, he spoke up.

"Statement: I'm but a simple townie meatbags. Exclamation: You have failed!"

And before any of them knew what happened, he had been shot several times and fell to the ground.

SwordsRBroken(HK-47, posting restricted townie) has been lynched!

After their failure they decided to retire for the night. But the evil that brought them here was not about to rest. They must be ever vigilant.

Night 1 begins! Send all actions to me by September 12th, 11:00PM CST(I know it's a kinda awkward time, but that way if actions take till the deadline I'm sure I can start the day that night)

 

[mentosman8]

The morning arrived with a bang. A scream resonated throughout the area and everyone ran to see what was wrong. When you arrive, you see the horrific sight of Praxis(Tali, vanilla townie) lying on the ground with several fresh bullet holes.

Day 2 begins! With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch! A deadline is set for 11:59PM CST on Thursday September 23rd!

Also, Sir Bedevere has requested replacement, and I have yet to find anyone to fill the spot. If anyone knows someone who would be willing to replace in have them get ahold of me ASAP.

 

[mentosman8]

Well, that was fast. Junglefever has replaced Sir Bedevere!

 

[Mad Scummy]

@OS: Thoughts on the NK?


Also watch out, the scum have a gun that fires several bullets in one shot!

 

[Overswarm]

Journal Entry, September 13th, 5:24 p.m.

Was a long Night. Thought I'd be friends with Praxis toDay, but scum thought otherwise. Figured he was the most obvious town player here. Guess scum thought so too.

Not liking that death at all. Scum's strategy seems to be to put us in a wifom scenario as the game goes on. Call it a hunch. Scum can only do three general strategies, and killing off the obvious town to put the game in a wifom trap every day is one of the strongest. Much different than framing people, the weakest, or going after people that they think are "on to them", which leaves a trail. I suspect we have at least one strong scum player here.

1. Goomba! (Tom/Gheb_01 hydra)
2. eXpiRed_CheEezCaKe-- (Guus/Vrael hydra)
3. SwordsRBroken
4. Dr. Riddler (Macman/Riddle hydra)
5. The_Guide
6. Soviet Coffee(AdumbroDeus/Shaya hydra)
7. Edreesespieces
8. Praxis
9. Overswarm
10. ChiboSempai
11. swordgard Nix2100
12. Sir Bedevere
13. Mad Scummy (Swiss/X1-12 hydra)
14. GorditoBoy69
15. Tandora

So many hydras, that doesn't narrow it down. ****.

Vote: SovietCoffee

Wouldn't be surprised if a BBR member wanted to off Praxis; Praxis is intelligent and knows their play. I'll go on that tangent for now.

I think I want an explanation as to who we should go after toDay from ChiboSempai and SovietCoffee. Mostly SovietCoffee.


I wonder if Goomba wants to be friends?

 

[Praxis]

TOLD YOU SO T_T
Someday I'll live past D1. :'(

 

[Dr. Riddler]

whats really good

i don't remember much about what i was thinking in this game

 

[EdreesesPieces]

@OS: Thoughts on the NK?


Also watch out, the scum have a gun that fires several bullets in one shot!

Why are you asking OS what his thoughts are, out of all the players in the game? Any reason you picked him?

Anyway, I'm just glad doc or other power roles didn't get killed at least. As for the Swords lynch turning town, I'll be the first to admit I was wrong, but I don't regret that we lynched him. His play wasn't getting us anywhere and I still think he seemed really scummy at the time. I'll go back and re read people's interactions with him - like the people who were so "sure" he was just dumb town. Not liking those people right now.

 

[Mad Scummy]

End of yesterDay he had very little to say, I was wandering if he was going to deign to impart anything more ToDay, or if he has anything he's been 'saving up'. Especially since he said he was interested in who was going to die that night etc

 

[Tandora]

Praxis made a lot of observations and accusations. Assuming we're dealing with a typical scum, I am going to assume at least one scum was on the lynch and the scum would want to get someone either obvtown or pointing fingers at them.

Let's look at the wagon on Swords - Goomba!, Edreesespieces, Mad Scummy, GorditoBoy69, Praxis, Tandora, eXpiRed_CheEzCake--, Overswarm

I feel Gorditoboy is pretty town from his play. The fact that Praxis felt he is town doesn't hurt either. Praxis also cleared Mad Scummy and Edreesespieces. This leaves Goomba, Expired, and OS. He said he was unclear about Goomba and OS.

His town three pick list was: Expired Cheesecake, Dr Riddler, and Chibosempai.

This would lead Expired as a huge target right now. Obviously there is not reason any or all three of these guys could be scum. I haven't like Chibo's hypocritical play and how quiet Riddler is. Usually the Riddle half of the team is fairly vocal. For both of the hydra to go quiet is suspicious.

I don't like how Expired said he felt Swords was a dumb town but still voted for him. Post 255 he supports a Guide vote over Dr Riddler. Looks like a possible scum save.

I think I'll go with VOTE eXpiRed_CheEezCaKe

 

[Goomba!]

I wonder if Goomba wants to be friends?

I also wonder...

[...]

I feel Gorditoboy is pretty town from his play. The fact that Praxis felt he is town doesn't hurt either. Praxis also cleared Mad Scummy and Edreesespieces. This leaves Goomba, Expired, and OS. He said he was unclear about Goomba and OS.

[...]

His town three pick list was: Expired Cheesecake, Dr Riddler, and Chibosempai.

Do you feel it's necessary to justify everything you think by saying "Praxis also thinks so"? It's a dangerous game to argue the claims of somebody who's not among us anymore as he can't correct anything you misconstrue [whether you do it intentionally or not]. Actually you refuse to take a hard stance by doing so because whenever somebody questions your reads you can always just point at a confirmed townie as a reference which is perfectly the angle scum would go for.

Also, there's a huge gap between being confirmed townie and having good reads. You can't conclude one from the other and I expected you to know that.

FoS Tandora

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I hate the fact that swords didn't claim. But I'm starting to feel much better about OS. Maybe he has a posting restriction too.

Unfortunately, his would be obvious. Sowrds', not so much. This is the only thing that could hint a restriction, but I'm not even sure if it is:

Gonna get back on the NK's after I post this. I'm sure that I'm getting ninja'd .

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

EBWOP:

I hate the fact that swords didn't claim. But I'm starting to feel much better about OS. Maybe he has a posting restriction too.

Unfortunately, his would be obvious. Sowrds', not so much. This is the only thing that could hint a restriction, but I'm not even sure if it is:

including how he seemed to occasionally talk in a vaguely familiar way that they associated with evil.

Gonna get back on the NK's after I post this. I'm sure that I'm getting ninja'd .

Fix'd lolOCDorwut.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@Tan

I agree with Goomba.

In your own words and reasoning, how do you feel about me, Edress, and Mad Scummy?

@Mad Scummy

Also watch out, the scum have a gun that fires several bullets in one shot!

I'm sorry, but I can't really tell if that's just an OMGSWISSJOKE or something serious . Help me out here?

 

[Praxis]

In your own words and reasoning, how do you feel about me, Edress, and Mad Scummy?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I didn't know the dead can talk?

 

[Tandora]

Do you feel it's necessary to justify everything you think by saying "Praxis also thinks so"? It's a dangerous game to argue the claims of somebody who's not among us anymore as he can't correct anything you misconstrue [whether you do it intentionally or not]. Actually you refuse to take a hard stance by doing so because whenever somebody questions your reads you can always just point at a confirmed townie as a reference which is perfectly the angle scum would go for.

Also, there's a huge gap between being confirmed townie and having good reads. You can't conclude one from the other and I expected you to know that.
:

My post was based on who would profit from killing Praxis. Thus that post was going to be about what Praxis thought. If it would help, I could point at posts to help support these theories.

And you should know by now that I look at voting trends. I was going to use the wagon on Swords regardless. Praxis is dead. I'm not going to say I'm scum. Then I had to look at who would have motive go against Praxis. Personally, when I played scum, I would never lynch someone who thought I was town. That cleared EP, Gordito, and Mad Scummy.

Personally, I think Gordito is town, so this matching my opinion did not hurt following the train of thought that Praxis was on to something.

Also, I did point at Cheesecake's own actions that I personally found suspicious. So either, you're skimming or you're trying to make me look scummy by misconstruing me.

 

[Ronike]

Oy, praxis, rules?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Oy, ronike, HYDRA .

 

[Ronike]

No content, not really much need, if a mod wants to delete these, feelfree

 

[Dr. Riddler]

woah

i cuddda sworn yu was deaddd

 

[CT Chia]

It's because he misspelled Edreeses name pretty bad lol

OS' standpoint on a BBR member potentially being the one that killed Praxis is a very very good idea. Players in dGames don't know as much about him. Players in the BBR know how Praxis is a good player and the whole situation in FF4 mafia.

The odd thing about this is a BBR member suggesting this (though it does take one to know one really, and I am one myself), however I'm hesitant at putting OS on fire due to his posting restriction. No average Vanilla Townie is going to have a posting restriction, and more often than not scum do not have posting restrictions. I'm not clearing him at all, but saying that OS shouldn't be the direction we go in yet.

So yes, I do want to follow what OS is suggesting. It's a good lead imo.

The remaining BBR players are:

-Overswarm (already discussed him)

-Myself

-Soviet Coffee (hydra composed of both BBR members) - Being a role with more than one BBR member is dangerous if we follow in this line of thought. A single BBR member might not really think like oh yea Praxis, get rid of him. However if two BBR members are discussing things (and I know Adumbrodeus is chatty and discusses a lot about mafia and such) I wouldn't be surprised if they went over each player in the game, and discussed more about the ones they are more familiar with (other BBR members)

-Edreese - Another BBR member and another possibility. The difference between other BBR members and Edreese dealing with Praxis in this game is that Edreese and Praxis are good friends (but we're all good friends with Praxis though ). I could see Edreese moreso than other potential BBR scum keeping Praxis around to play a WIFOM situation based off of what I just said and wanting to possible keep him around to buddy up.

And uhh... that's it for BBR members. So yea, I more or less agree with OS's idea of looking into BBR members, and that's my full explanation for it. If I had to choose one of them as well it would be Soviet Coffee.

 

[Tandora]

@Tan

I agree with Goomba.

In your own words and reasoning, how do you feel about me, Edress, and Mad Scummy?

@Mad Scummy



I'm sorry, but I can't really tell if that's just an OMGSWISSJOKE or something serious . Help me out here?

Sorry, Gord, your post wasn't up when I made my previous one.

I feel you are town. Your actions have been pretty protown and similar to how I play. I admit I was a little suspicious of you when I was rereading and saw how you were "She didn't unvote" but I think that is a sincere town move. You wanted to keep the vote straight. Praxis did the same thing.

Regarding Mad Scummy, I think he got his silliness out of the way early and decided to shape up and play cooperative. I try to not lean too heavily on meta, but realistically this is the most friendly he [Swiss] has played in the games I have participated with him. This could be the result of being a hydra and showing the other half [X-12] influence. However, when Swiss was anti-town/scum before, he played antagonizing without apology. His ability to not do that this time makes me think he is town.

I admit, EP is going to be my weakest case. I had strong thoughts about Gordito and MS, so I kinda coasted on EP. However, reading EP to get a strong opinion on him, here's what I got. I like how he's vocal. He changes his mind often, but always with good reasons and doesn't just follow an easy target or strong lynch. Tbh, that's how I play town because I'm flopping around looking for scum. He doesn't let people just sit back such as OS on post 376. I could still possibly go for a vote on EP if given good reasons, but right now I can see how he is being town.

 

[Tandora]

The odd thing about this is a BBR member suggesting this (though it does take one to know one really, and I am one myself), however I'm hesitant at putting OS on fire due to his posting restriction. No average Vanilla Townie is going to have a posting restriction, and more often than not scum do not have posting restrictions. I'm not clearing him at all, but saying that OS shouldn't be the direction we go in yet.

I'm tempted to make all of my posts once the game starts as journal entries of a grizzled old Sea Cap'n.

As far as I am concerned, OS gave himself a posting restriction. Also, what is the likelihood we'll have TWO town players with posting restrictions. I've never played with a posting restriction, would everyone have one, would most people of a certain type have it?

Also as far as I know, Swords was a vanilla posting restricted townie. SwordsRBroken(HK-47, posting restricted townie) has been lynched!

I think your logic continues to fail, Chibo.

 

[CT Chia]

Sorry I forgot that Swords was posting restricted and not a PR. This is the first time I have ever seen a vanilla with a restriction.

I didn't remember that about OS, though we can not be certain or not if he has a restriction. Still, I didn't use it to clear him at all. Just not the play yet when I'm more intrigued about Soviet Coffee following that line of thought.

Also I have been in games where multiple players had posting restrictions.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

woah

i cuddda sworn yu was deaddd

whats really good

i don't remember much about what i was thinking in this game

FoS Riddler

You're under mad heat, and decide to make fillers? How 'bout ya add sum more content, eh?

 

[Dr. Riddler]

marshy's the homie

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Ain't finna slide. When can i expect to be readin up on yo shiz?

 

[DtJ Jungle]

I'm slowly getting through this guys but i have a ton of stuff for class to do tonight also.

Just would like to say @Chibo: in Samuel L Jackson Mafia 2, Macman and I both had posting restrictions as scum. Don't think this is the only game in Dgames where scum has had a posting restriction. Marshy in Alice and Wonderland i think as well?

Also about the BBR thing; i think it's pretty obvious that Praxis is at least an observant and smart player even by what we've seen this game. I think that just because of his actions in the BBR that someone on the BBR is scum is a bit of a stretch. I dunno tho, i guess i'd have ot see that game

 

[Nix2100]

I think people forgot about me again....that and i completely forgot what i was thinking for this game -_- long night phases ftl.....

 

[ronEEke]

Or, Os is just making up a posting restriction for fun and difficult to read-ness. Or he's scum with a Posting Restriction. Or he's town with a Posting restriction...

Seriously guys, shut up about it. It's a null tell and will not lead anywhere productive. It's just distracting.

The point that Praxis may have been killed by a BR is... Okay at best. Not really something to rely on too much atm, but maybe late it could be a nail in a coffin made of evidence.

Jungle, you have large shoes to fill, so get to it. Bedevere was pretty **** anti-town with his direct avoidance of contributing. You've gotta work your way up from a scummy position in my mind.

Chibo, seriously, you need to post more today, no excuses. Otherwise, you on my list as well.