Best Secondary for Falco.

[Notra]

I love metaknight too and hate jiggly, yes its a preference, but in some ice climbers guides, they say a good way to start practicing your chain grabs is to start on marth and falco.



That's from the ice climbers guide under chain grabbing.

i cant argue w/ that. maybe marth isnt a good idea then

 

[ScubaF_ingSteve]

i cant argue w/ that. maybe marth isnt a good idea then

Well its really depends on how the marth spaces, ice climbers can only ice block and blizzard while marth stays at a no grab distance, but when he gets in range, and the ice climbers get a grab, its a stock. However, the same can be said with a lot of characters.

I still personally believe that snake is falco's best secondary, but again its all subjective, and since marth+falco have had the best success so far, its safe to say marth+falco works, I just personally find it getting no where in the ice climbers match-up.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Who cares how easy it is to chaingrab, matchups are about top level play, aka faultless chaingrabs.

Marth is just harder to grab

 

[Notra]

Who cares how easy it is to chaingrab, matchups are about top level play, aka faultless chaingrabs.

Marth is just harder to grab

yeah u make sense too. i guess d say marth is the best second. caushe in most ppls opinion(people i know) marth is easier to learn than snake. and since it is a secondary it shouldnt take up an even amount of time as falco so imma say Marth IS the best secondary.

MARTH.

 

[goodkid]

Fiction vs. Dehf: look it up if ur looking to see what 2 do vs. Ics

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

yeah u make sense too. i guess d say marth is the best second. caushe in most ppls opinion(people i know) marth is easier to learn than snake. and since it is a secondary it shouldnt take up an even amount of time as falco so imma say Marth IS the best secondary.

MARTH.

A secondary should be as good as your main, but just more focused on specific matchups rather then overall play.

It should not be taken into account

 

[Vlade]

Metaknight: Covers all of Falco's bad stages and destroys Marth

Marth: Covers all of Falco's notably bad match-ups except for Ice Climbers, in particular he ***** Pika and G&W.

Snake: Beats Ice Climbers

 

[Emperor Time]

Marth beats IC. It's like 60:40.

 

[Vlade]

In practice I don't believe that to be the case.

It's 60:40 as long as the Marth maintains PERFECT spacing for the whole match, which is just not possible.

Anyway, let's not derail from the topic >_> My bad

 

[M@v]

MK is my secondary. He covers Falco well and his bad stages arent a problem for MK.
Snake and Marth would be good too. Hearing that ZSS covers Falco so well gives me an excuse to learn her. I already play both Princess Peach and Zelda, so then I'd know all the female characters.

Get@me Snakeeee.

 

[erick gm14]

my secondary is falco...

 

[BleachigoZX]

NJ is too good!!

 

[erick gm14]

lol theres not many notable falco's in NJ, im gonna change that =)))

 

[BleachigoZX]

Not before I do.

(I'm going to be ranked!!!!! 14 or 15 I think)
(I meant it's already been done! I just have to wait fot the list to come out!)

 

[erick gm14]

top 15 in NJ? thats a tough feat..especially with all those MK players in NJ..

 

[Vlade]

Wow Bleach is certainly Legit.

Get some vids up already

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Bleach is too good.

I second the vids, I wanna see your play

 

[Notra]

A secondary should be as good as your main, but just more focused on specific matchups rather then overall play.

It should not be taken into account

How would a secondary be as good as ur main. SECONDary. its a back up character. They're only used for certain characters and stages. so im not gonna put the time into them like i would falco for most or all match ups and stages, just a few. Thats why they r a secondary.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

How would a secondary be as good as ur main. SECONDary. its a back up character. They're only used for certain characters and stages. so im not gonna put the time into them like i would falco for most or all match ups and stages, just a few. Thats why they r a secondary.

You still need the control over your secondary to be nearly as good as your main. Without that, it's rather pointless to CP a character when you will just go and lose with them due to less skill with them.

If your secondary is as proficent as your main your CP match will instantly be in your favor. That's because you rule out skill as being the limiting factor in your advantage, and it just comes down to your CP, character, and how well your opponent handles the disadvantage match up.

If your secondary isn't as good as your main, you might actually be playing a match that while is supposed to be your advantage, is really a disadvantage because your skill isn't enough to overcome the other characters skill.

So while your secondary may not have to have the same effort put into as many match-ups, you certainly need to have the feel of your secondary be just as good as your main. This is espically true if your secondary can only CP a character through dittos. I see that happen quite a lot when someone has a main that loses to MK badly. Their solution to the problem is to use MK as a CP. Which if your using MK (secondary) against someone else's Main in a ditto, the mainer of that ditto should be victorous. So that is an example of why you want your secondary to have the same skill as your main.

And if you want to follow up with this logic, you really have 2 mains, not just a secondary. Just that the 2nd character isn't as versed in MU experience as your main is.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Crystal = smartboi

 

[Notra]

You still need the control over your secondary to be nearly as good as your main. Without that, it's rather pointless to CP a character when you will just go and lose with them due to less skill with them.

If your secondary is as proficent as your main your CP match will instantly be in your favor. That's because you rule out skill as being the limiting factor in your advantage, and it just comes down to your CP, character, and how well your opponent handles the disadvantage match up.

If your secondary isn't as good as your main, you might actually be playing a match that while is supposed to be your advantage, is really a disadvantage because your skill isn't enough to overcome the other characters skill.

So while your secondary may not have to have the same effort put into as many match-ups, you certainly need to have the feel of your secondary be just as good as your main. This is espically true if your secondary can only CP a character through dittos. I see that happen quite a lot when someone has a main that loses to MK badly. Their solution to the problem is to use MK as a CP. Which if your using MK (secondary) against someone else's Main in a ditto, the mainer of that ditto should be victorous. So that is an example of why you want your secondary to have the same skill as your main.

And if you want to follow up with this logic, you really have 2 mains, not just a secondary. Just that the 2nd character isn't as versed in MU experience as your main is.

i see where ur coming from. what i meant to say then was if there was a Large loaf of bread ( ) which represented the match ups and stages i would play. Falco would get the most bread. and marth/snake/meta would get maybe a single slice. No point in training my Meta to be good vs D3 on FD. Get what i meant?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'd give both 50%, I'd just tell my falco more about the taste then my secondary.

 

[Notra]

I'd give both 50%, I'd just tell my falco more about the taste then my secondary.

i guess... my falco doesnt liek to share so much though. but i guess it differs

 

[Emperor Time]

Getting my secondary to be the same skill as my Falco is something I need to work on. My Marth SAWKS, so I have a hard time CPing characters. TBH, I feel more comfortable with DK, but Marth covers me better....

 

[erick gm14]

Not before I do.

(I'm going to be ranked!!!!! 14 or 15 I think)
(I meant it's already been done! I just have to wait fot the list to come out!)

i need to enter tournys >_>; ive been gone for over half a year already..