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[DtJ Jungle]

None of Omni's preliminary questions would incriminate someone if they were answered straight up.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

It still has yet to be explained how Blue did not answer them straight up though.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

I've been playing mafia for a couple of months.

The only ones I've really taken part in (as in, been active in) was Monster Island and the Saints one (still going). Other ones I've been inactive (or replaced out) include the school one, the TV one (actually, I think I was lynched in that one), and immediately replaced out of Star Wars.

My suggestion for leaving the RVS stage is by making a serious vote.

Just because KevinM's avatar is god tier, I would love to be scum partners with him.

I'm claiming to be Batman, Vanilla Townie ( )

As for my serious vote, as probably predictable by everyone:

Vote: Blue Yoshi

QUICK LYNCH!!! GOGOGOGO!!!!!

here's his post

he answers the question about what other games he's been in. ok

his second answer is fine "start off on a serious note"

then there's the rest of hte post which contradicts his second statement


if he wantedt o move out of the RVS he wa making no effort in doing so, making his only 'good' post of the game 'useless.'


The questions themselves arent incriminating, and the answers shouldn't be either if you just answered teh questions. Blue Yoshi tells us how he would move out of RVS then blatently contradicts himself.

 

[KevinM]

Ok with killing Steel if people are down to ride that wagon.

 

[Cello_Marl]

@Nix: I don't need to defend myself against anything. What they want from me is posts. Well, all of them but Ryker. Apparently, he didn't deign it worth his time to explain why his vote is on me. Sidenote: Macman's claim was probably just a joke.

@Hobo: What do you think about Ryker's vote on me? What about Nix's declaration of intent? Do you see those as comfortable votes like Omni's? Also, how were Ronike's lack of a vote, and my vote on Steel during RVS, not essentially the same?

@Kirbyoshi: ...yeah. You're just dumb.

@Omni: Aren't you currently doing exactly what Hobo accused you of; voting someone comfortably while there are others that you think are more scummy? More importantly, what use is your vote on Hobo right now?

unvote vote Hobo

 

[#HBC | marshy]

Vote Count
Blue Yoshi (2) - Blue Yoshi, Ronike
Omni (2) - Charged Achy Hobo, Kirbyoshi
Bunglefever (1) - §teel
Cello_Marl (4) - Macman, Bunglefever, Tom, Ryker
Tom (1) - KevinM
Charged Achy Hobo (1) - Cello_Marl

Not voting (2): Omni, Nix2100

Activity
2/22 - Cello_Marl, KevinM, Bunglefevah, Kirbyoshi, Ronike, Nix2100, Ryker, Macman, Omni, Charged Achy Hobo, Blue Yoshi
2/21 - Tom
Inactive - §teel. but hes la. so essentially no one. like it should be

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with 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

deadline = 2/25 midnight

 

[Nix2100]

Dude, Nix, you do realize Cello hasn't even gotten on since you made that post right? Why you pushin so hard on someone you dont think is scummy?

Because I won't have the time to do a complete read through until I'm finished doing my homework/midterms, so by the time I would be able to make a complete post after reading everything again will be tomorrow. Figured Cello would be back by then and would realize he is getting even closer to getting lynched.

 

[Nix2100]

Oh..Cello is back...and your right what they want is posts, but you didn't exactly seem to care that there was a bandwagon on you to begin with.

 

[Nix2100]

@Omni: More importantly, what use is your vote on Hobo right now?

unvote vote Hobo

You just questioned what use Omni's vote on Hobo is, and you go do the exact thing? Isnt that a bit contradicting?

 

[KevinM]

He could have different reasoning <_<.

*shrugs*

 

[Omni]

i unvoted Hobo a while ago.

skim more

 

[Tom]

reading thread now

@hobo - no, i guess i havent paid enough attention to what you've said, because when i thought about it, i didnt have any read on you. so, theres your answer to your caps lock post.

 

[Tom]

****BEGIN NOTES****

dumb people clause: these are my opinions. when i say "cleared," i mean they are cleared to me, momentarily, by my reads. i obviously do not mean they are cleared by in-game knowledge. they are subject to change, and it is only day 1, but these are they and my reasoning.

note - i made this as i caught up

NOT COMFORTABLE
11. Cello_Marl - i am still not comfortable with you. i feel the same way towards you right now that i do towards EE when i play with him - i expect you to contribute more, and when you do contribute, i just dont agree with what you say / find what you say right/comforting.
13. Blue Yoshi - dont like your 266 post at all - taking credit for getting out of RVS and then not doing anything at all? coasting, too tired, etc. no thank you! YOU HAVE NOT CONTRIBUTED ENOUGH. I FEEL THAT IF YOU WERE CONTRIBUTING, I WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH YOU.
2. §teel - my major concern with you is that i dont think the cello wagon is the wrong direction and you do. also i always throw up red flags when someone talks about their own "scummy play" on the same day.
3. KevinM - feels off man. havent contributed much, the only focus that has been on you has been your NULL connection to me, and other than that, you have cited your wanting steel to go.
10. Kirbyoshi - currently feeling "dumb not scum" from you. you said in 261 that you thought i am scum (imo scum wouldnt do this to me, or scum mates wouldnt let him, for fear of wrath) so soft-clear... but also im still looking forward to seeing your logic behind thinking im scum. ronike is right in 302 that you said you thought i was blatant scum but then never elaborated on it. 308 lets me know that you dont know how a wagon works (dont vote just cuz tom told you to~!!) but you still did NOT elaborate on your thoughts on me.... now on 330 you just completely drop it? and 341 did you just pick it back up? the things you analyzed were very weird choices. half of them were jokes, the other half i have already explained (my questioning of ryker's laughing at the joke came from my meta with macman (which i have explained already), you are still fixating on "running this game." now in 360 you say that you still are suspicious of me, even though your case is just commenting on things that have already been explained or things that i have no idea how you would even try to get a read out of them - it seems to me like you have fixated on me (and by take-my-hand connections, omni and kevinm) and that is all you have done all game.

COMFORTABLE?
7. Omni - ive taken your hand, and i feel pretty comfortable with you. need to read more into hobo v you.
5. Nix2100 - hasnt contributed much but i get comfortable from his 270.
9. Charged Achy Hobo - also comfortable with you. i agree with your reads in 271, especially your idea about kev not being town because something is off, and the other 3 (who i deemed as "easy targets" to get your read on them to see if you would bite) i think are town/neutral you also think are town/neutral/confusing. if one of the three is scum (nix, ryker, steel) then it is steel. i need to read more into your case v omni because that has been your (obvious) main focus.
4. Macman - until you get into the game, you will be in my lynchpool. thanks to one piece mafia. HEY! 348 is a good showing. scratch the lynchpool comment.
8. Tom - cleared by self
6. Ronike - so far so good, you are being yourself and i dont disagree with anything
1. Bunglefever - see ryker
12. Ryker - see bunglefever. no just kidding. the two of you i have lumped together because because of your play i cant really feel good about you (i dont feel youve contributed much) but you also havent done anything to make me worry you are scum.


announcements: kev, i dont think i can auto-clear you like i thought i could. not in this game, at least, i dont feel comfortable with your showing.

notes: i *obviously* need to read more into chargehybobo vs. omni, i have no idea about what that is right now (s v t, t v t, no idea).

****END NOTES****



@nix: to answer your question: i joke voted and then started a bandwagon on cello (i was the third vote technically, but if you look, i was encouraging people to vote him by prodding him a lot) because i wanted him to be more active and to give me reasons to like him. right now, i still dont like him. (in this game. obv i like cello. just not in this game.)


my scumdar is:

Cello_Marl/§teel/KevinM
Kirbyoshi/Blueyoshi
Nix2100/Bunglefever/Ryker
Charged Achy Hobo
Macman/Omni/Ronike
Tom is amazing

 

[KevinM]

oh tom started posting again cool

Unvote

Sup bro again.

 

[KevinM]

I agree with your scumlist except *** my name outta red durr.

 

[KevinM]

Also Macman shouldn't be super town imo.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Agree with Tom's list.
Cello or Steel or By for sure today.

 

[Ronike]

Pretty much agree with Tom, just with Cello a bit higher and kirbyoshi and nix a bit lower. Just in case you guys are wondering...

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Nix needs to say something other then when called on or hwen someone votes him

would really love to see blue yoshis promised post

 

[Nix2100]

Don't think anyone has voted for me in a bit....and I can't recall the last time i was called out besides near the beginning.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

i stnad corrected on your posts that you've posted today (sans one where you were mentioned and popped up). The rest of them before today, you only make a post when your name is mentioned.

 

[Nix2100]

Probably just coincidence but *shrug* Fair enough!

 

[Kirbyoshi]

This may be hypocritical, but Blue is starting to get on my nerves with this pop-in-pop-out playstyle. Posting less often than Fever, and anyone who does that really needs to step up their game.

 

[Nix2100]

@Fever - Ah, looking back your probably right, most of my posts were in response to someone questioning me or having a general statement about something I did.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Tom 56
Omni 49
Charged Achy Hobo 43
Bunglefever 34
§teel 34
Ronike 30
KevinM 28
Ryker 25
Nix2100 18
Macman 17
Cello_Marl 14
Kirbyoshi 14
Blue Yoshi 6

Hi kirb


im glad you're skimming

only three people have more posts than ido.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

so kirb, dumb or scum?

 

[Charged Achy Hobo]

Also, steels defending of omni seemed random and unnecessary. It seemed like what Gheb was saying was something that should be answered by Omni. The fact that you were answering for him seemed odd to me.

Yeah, I agree with this. It also bugs me that Omni was waiting so long to actually respond to my argument but as soon as §teel covered him Omni had no problem actually answering it. I'm down with lynching either one or the other.

Steel, I think is suspect.

Switch to §teel then? Plenty of people are down for a wagon.

Unvote Vote §teel

You're nailing him for leaving a vote on someone who was being useless. If you want someone to show up to the table and act, what's the first thing you do?

No. Just no.
I specifically asked him if he is actually suspicious of Blue Yoshi. His resonse (post 154):

"i said specifically that i voted him because he's being useless. regardless of him being suspicious or scummy useless people can die as well."

Selective pseudo-scumhunting. I'm saying "selective" because he genuinely seemed to be under the impression that other people were scummier than BY. Who actually prefers to go after the easier target? You guessed it - scum.

You two going back and forth is distracting and I don't think it's going to head in a direction you want it to. It's detrimental to town.

Yes, actively discussing a legitimate case is a detriment to town.

Except ... it isn't.

@Hobo: What do you think about Ryker's vote on me? What about Nix's declaration of intent? Do you see those as comfortable votes like Omni's?

No, I don't. Omni literally said that "he's OK with useless people dying". That's the ultimate cop-out for scum.

Also, how were Ronike's lack of a vote, and my vote on Steel during RVS, not essentially the same?

Before I answer it: Serious question or not?

Also Macman shouldn't be super town imo.

Quoting this for emphasis. I still consider him strangely out of character unless he continues to make better posts.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

No. Just no.
I specifically asked him if he is actually suspicious of Blue Yoshi. His resonse (post 154):

"i said specifically that i voted him because he's being useless. regardless of him being suspicious or scummy useless people can die as well."

Selective pseudo-scumhunting. I'm saying "selective" because he genuinely seemed to be under the impression that other people were scummier than BY. Who actually prefers to go after the easier target? You guessed it - scum.



Yes, actively discussing a legitimate case is a detriment to town.

Except ... it isn't..

Yeah, k. Useless people can die. Especially if they aren't gonna be around. All it is is someone who'll be around late in the game with no read for scum to hide behind or scum who you're reluctant to lynch. With no clear cut option, why not lynch him and hope he isn't ******** next time.

Do you really think that that early in the game, Omni had enough to lynch Ronike or Steel? IIRC, he voted Steel when he thought it would help.

Don't find it a legitimate case, so **** that.

Now I'M going to leave your case alone until you bring something new to the table. I've done what you're doing before. When the person I'm chasing won't argue anymore I'll pick it up with someone else I can get to defend him. I've said why I disagree and I think you should drop it until you've got something more legitimate because you're tunneling this game to hell.





I'd be down with a BY wagon if I have to, but I like Cello still.

He's under the impression I want votes from him, but I want him dead.

He was intentionally lurking and, if given a chance, will go straight back to it. I've been reading through Kevin's Down and Dirty mafia and I see those characteristic "Pichu-like happy spasms" that Cello said weren't gonna be here because he couldn't manage it. I dislike that he plays one way in two games, but not here. He's not an inactive townie, he's a lurking wolf. Gonna reread and see if I can't build a better case than this because I know this isn't enough for a lynch.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

EBWOP: *I'd be down for a BY, Steel, or Kirbo wagon if I have to, but I like Cello still.

The thought was lost somewhere while I was considering Cello.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Dunno mac but he's blatently skimming with that comment.

Also don't have Mac that high on my scumlist. One good post doesn't make him a good townie all of a sudden

 

[DtJ Jungle]

super fail: I don't have mac that high on my townie**** list.

 

[Omni]

On iPhone.

Good. We have direction. Very happy.

vote: cello

Best lynch we got at the moment IMO.

Cello, start talking. Who's the play? Top 3. Why aren't you the play?

 

[KevinM]

FoS Bungle

For using the Who's Posted as a guideline for activity. Step it up.

Steel/Cello/Bungle

In that order.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

This may be hypocritical, but Blue is starting to get on my nerves with this pop-in-pop-out playstyle. Posting less often than Fever, and anyone who does that really needs to step up their game.

Posting that was merely a response to this Kev. I posted it because I don't know why he chose me as an example, and he uses the words 'posts less than." It's just an example of his negligence.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Kev, what do you mean in your "Who's Posted" statement about Bungle? Not getting it.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

He misunderstood Jungles intentions with the post.

And even then, that's such a ******** reason for an fos, wtf kevin?
fos:KevinM

 

[KevinM]

He misunderstood Jungles intentions with the post.

And even then, that's such a ******** reason for an fos, wtf kevin?
fos:KevinM

You're an idiot, why would basing activity off of the Who Posted list be beneficial for town in anything but extreme circumstances.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Why would you think that someone doing it would make them seem like scum? lrn2play plox

 

[DtJ Jungle]

He misunderstood Jungles intentions with the post.

And even then, that's such a ******** reason for an fos, wtf kevin?
fos:KevinM

This is almost as ******** as a reason for a FoS

i think its quite clear Kevin just, like you said, misunderstood the intention. If you look at it the way he saw it, then the FoS isn't as unjustified.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Oh! Ok, ok, ok. I know what the Who Posted list is, just not how to access it.

That being said, it's a null tell to me.