Banned Tourney Moves?

[Scarlet Jile]

I was just curious as to whether there were moves banned from tournaments.

For example, Bowser's forward-B suicide body slam thing. I killed a Snake player with 4 stocks having done a total of 12% damage by body-slamming him off the edge repeatedly, and was considered the winner because he landed first, and therefore lost.

Just curious, because it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense to me.

 

[Rebel581]

No moves are banned.

Certain tactics may be banned. Those include things such as wobbling was. Puff punch infinite stall was banned. Bowser's forward-b will NEVER be banned, as the person grabbed has far more control over it than Bowser does.

 

[Scarlet Jile]

So he was the one jumping his own *** off the edge?

'Cus I don't main Bowser, I just assumed I was power-driving him into oblivion over and over. It's actually a lot funnier now, since I got $10 for beating him with a toon of his choosing.

 

[Muad'Dib]

Anyone who gets 4 stocked by that deserves to lose.

 

[salaboB]

I would hope tourneys are smart enough to recognize that win or draw on the last stocks using that move is solely dependent on player position (ie, which number you are) and call it a tie even if the game claims otherwise.

 

[Flayl]

the opponent also has control over the DI of the side b

 

[Scarlet Jile]

the opponent also has control over the DI of the side b

Thanks for clearing that up, I actually didn't know that.

And neither did my opponent, clearly.

 

[Dynomite]

some moves are banned, the moves that you cant get out of like falco's laser lock, are banned from tournaments but side b with bowser.. no reason for that to be banned.. its a move. just like ddd,kirby's "suck up and die"

 

[Mic_128]

I would hope tourneys are smart enough to recognize that win or draw on the last stocks using that move is solely dependent on player position (ie, which number you are) and call it a tie even if the game claims otherwise.

No, totally wrong.

1. What number player you are has nothing at all in the slightest to do with this move. It doesn't even affect spawning positions, since they're now randomized.

2. It's totally fair. To quote the dojo:

He’s diving off the edge with his opponent! That’s not nice! But please don’t worry. The opponent will be able to affect side-to-side movement just like Bowser. The opponent can fight back. The effectiveness of this resistance depends on the damage gauge. The less damage the opponent has, the stronger he or she will be able to resist. Likewise, Bowser will find it harder to control his enemy if he has taken a lot of damage.

3. Suicides were a legitimate technique in Melee and it's no different here. Any deaths with this on last stocks should not be considered ties at all.

 

[Inferno_blaze]

No, totally wrong.

1. What number player you are has nothing at all in the slightest to do with this move. It doesn't even affect spawning positions, since they're now randomized.

Actually if you're player port 1 and you koopacide you will always win, if you'r being koopacided then you'll always draw, it's based on which port you're in, just try it.

 

[Beo]

Pretty sure stuff like that doesn't matter online, but offline Controller slot DOES matter for Bowsercide.

Although I have gone to Sudden Death online, meaning I could have been in controller slot 2, more testing needed.

However I'm 100% sure about this. Player 1 >Bs player 2, Player 1 wins.

Player 2 >Bs Player 1, Sudden Death.

 

[Rapid_Assassin]

If you can't avoid something as Snake vs. a Bowser, something so obvious as the same move done over and over again, you deserve to lose.

 

[Brahma]

Any last stock suicide other than controller port 1 goes to sudden death.

 

[mossdog]

Anyone who gets 4 stocked by that deserves to lose.

your name is awsome...
I'm a saudakar member myself.

 

[Trapt497]

no no this is ridiculous. No move should ever be banned. Thats just dumb. I can see why items and stuff would be, but honestly. Banning a move??? That better not happen.

 

[J4pu]

thanks for the port info, i was wondering why one day i won with that move every time and then the next day i went to sudden death, and then used it again in sudden death and lost every time (was just messing around with a friend, i would never use bowsercide in a real sudden death...)

 

[Bud]

he is an idiot for standing near the edge, probably spaming projectiles (**** snakes)

 

[ollenberger121]

why would they ban a move that can make the opponent win ?

 

[RenegadeRaven]

They should ban either pits side or down b.....

On Topic:

I forgot your opponent had control over that **** too. I could never suicide a CPU, and it makes sense now...

 

[Mic_128]

Actually if you're player port 1 and you koopacide you will always win, if you'r being koopacided then you'll always draw, it's based on which port you're in, just try it.

Huh, never knew that. Weird.

 

[KevinM]

Silly Mic, you need to play Bowser more :D