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Yeah, the problem isn't that they exist; it's that they all homogenize together.
Excuse me, good sir, but Marth and Roy do NOT play exactly the same; Marth's sweet spot is at the tip of his sword, thus having him play more at a distance and requires some precision. Roy's on the other hand is at the hilt of the sword, thus he prefers getting up close and personal with the opponent. As for Lucina and Chrom, they don't have any sweetspot, so you can basically play them however you want, thus making them (and possibly Ken) the only worthwhile Echo FIghters.
Maybe, but Resident Evil 4 is such a big deal. I would argue Leon is the most popular male character whereas Jill is the most popular female character in the series. And since having a male and female protagonist is usually RE's shtick, these two make sense. I don't think Jill would be a simple palette swap though. She would be an echo, I imagine.
But all of that is a dumb argument because those characters were made to play similarly. It would be one thing if those characters were intended to be unique but they were purposefully built on the base fighter to help increase roster size. This is like complaining Pit and Dark Pit feel the same or Olimar and Alph or Ness and Lucas or Fox and Falco. It's silly.
I agree it's the best 2D Platformer I have ever played, Definitely puts the New Super Mario Bros Series to shame and in my opinion probably the best 2D Platformer Platformer ever made.
I genuinely can’t tell if you’re joking or not.
Honestly, I'm being serious; that's how the two of them play, and if you were to try and play Marth like you'd play Roy or vice versa, you wouldn't get very far.
It's true, Roy is supposed to be the extreme opposite of Marth gameplay-wise. Sorry you fell for the "all FE reps are just skins of Marth" meme.
It's just a really bad argument if you're advocating for more swordsmen than we have already to say "These very similar characters play slightly differently from one another because of their sweet spots so therefore why not more characters that play slightly differently?". If the difference between Erdrick and Link or Cloud for example is going to be as different as Marth is from Lucina or Roy then that's not very appealing.
Banjo would be a Duck Hunt clone.
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At this point I would take a revamped Duck Hunt over another JRPG swordfighter lolBanjo would be a Duck Hunt clone.
An alleged leak that seemingly got the release of the new Smash Bros update right that was posted awhile ago.
Aside from Banjo, I despise that line up. That said, after the Ken/Incineroar leak came true, I must only conclude that it's real. Kinda sad that my worst fears are the only ones that come true.
I feel like you're putting words in my mouth. My issue with the whole "Too Many Swordsmen" argument is that people declare any potential new sword-wielder as "just another sword-wielder" as if every character that primarily uses a sword plays exactly alike. Furthermore, I never stated that I WANTED more swordfighters; I was just responding to a comment that implied that Marth and Roy play exactly alike when they don't, and at the end of the day, Smash is a fighting game, thus gameplay is what matters most i.e. how a character plays.
Remember that the leaker who leaked Ken and Incineroar and the leaker who made this leak are two different people. One was right, this one could be either right or wrong.
I guess that leaves room for at least a little hope.
Good to see another Banjo-Kazooie fan here.
No problem! Anytime!
Sorry if I misconstrued what you were trying to say. I will say though that even if the roster is 70-ish or so characters and swordfighters are only making up a portion of that at a certain point it seems like it's going to be really hard to distinguish new swordies from the others as more get added. They would have to be very unique (like Cloud and Shulk) as a character to not be seen as being too similar to the FE swordfighters just because there are already several on the roster. I think that is specifically why Erdrick to me is such an anti-hype pick. With Joker I've never played Persona but I bought the character because his use of Arsene was really cool and his playstyle looked really unique and I'm happy with my purchase. With Lloyd even though I'm not a megafan of the Tales series like some people I could appreciate the fact that he uses two swords because that's a style that hasn't been done in Smash yet. With Erdrick though he has a sword and a shield and some spells. So he'd be a hybrid Link/Robin? That doesn't seem as exciting to me, and isn't something I'd be hyped to buy.
I feel like if you know the date that close you would at least know the update version number.
agree. BUT, its still interesting
What good does increasing the roster size do if they mostly play the same? It's just redundant to have them if they offer nothing new. I could understand Roy because his attacks are stronger at the hilt but Lucina and Chrom offer nothing unique. Lucina is just Marth without a tipper and Chrom is Roy without the hilt.
Just finishing our final E3 rehearsal here with the team in Redmond. Feel really good about the briefing. Lots to show. We have 14 Xbox Game Studios games in the show this year, more first party games than we've ever had in the show. Fun times. #XboxE3
— Phil Spencer (@XboxP3) May 30, 2019
Microsoft isn't playing around this year. How long is their presentation even going to be?
Around 2 hours, I believe.
