Social Banjo-Kazooie Social Thread - Project Dream Come True!

[TheTreasonousSnowmad]

At any rate, he'll mess up eventually. It happened with DBFZ, it can happen again.
And it likely will at some point, but until then, we should at least consider everything he claims. I'd never be 100% on a leak, but I also wouldn't write one off from somebody with a good track record.
Bamco really needs to step up their game if they want to prevent anything from being leaked.

He likely will, but until then, we should at least consider everything he claims. I'd never 100% believe a leak, but I'd also never automatically write it off from someone with a good track record.

Honestly he should've never tried to leak anything in the first place.

You have the option of not believing them or not reading them. They're there for the people that don't want to wait.

 

[Cap'n Jack]

Banjo seems like the most likely DLC character at this point based off of insider leaks

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

Everyone keeps saying "Nintendo wouldn't just go to Microsoft for Minecraft! They KNOW we want Banjo!"

But Piranha Plant just throws that out the window for me. It's abundantly clear to me that the Smash Ballot was only a factor for the two number one big picks: K. Rool and Ridley. Chrom and Dark Samus were easy echoes to make. No one wanted or demanded a generic enemy like Piranha Plant and yet here we are.

Minecraft is just simply more profitable and relevant, and Banjo is going to be forever locked in Microsoft's backlog.

Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to be proven wrong on this. I'd love to wake up one day and find out Banjo's DLC... but I'm not getting my hopes up. For me, the dream's dead

 

[Deleted member]

So, according to Spawn Wave's hints as well as Sakurai's Background Theory, we're getting Sora (behind Sakurai in today's Direct, there were two dice, both which seemed to have a symbol from Kingdom Hearts).

I wonder if that blue book that seemed to have Banjo-Kazooie on it was a hint (in the August Direct)...?

Eh, it may just be wishful thinking...

So what your saying is that Nintendo is gonna get f***ed by Disney?

 

[TheCJBrine]

So what your saying is that Nintendo is gonna get f***ed by Disney?

Disney themselves asks Square Enix if they can use Sora out of respect.

From what I remember people saying, Disney also wouldn't mind Sora being in Smash, but it's up to Square.

 

[TheZoologist]

Everyone keeps saying "Nintendo wouldn't just go to Microsoft for Minecraft! They KNOW we want Banjo!"

But Piranha Plant just throws that out the window for me. It's abundantly clear to me that the Smash Ballot was only a factor for the two number one big picks: K. Rool and Ridley. Chrom and Dark Samus were easy echoes to make. No one wanted or demanded a generic enemy like Piranha Plant and yet here we are.

Minecraft is just simply more profitable and relevant, and Banjo is going to be forever locked in Microsoft's backlog.

Don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to be proven wrong on this. I'd love to wake up one day and find out Banjo's DLC... but I'm not getting my hopes up. For me, the dream's dead

I'm kinda with you on that. Incineroar & Piranha Plant threw popularity completely out the window for this game, even though I personally don't mind them. They just boggled my mind that they were included over the likes of Issac and Geno. I find it very unlikely we'll see Banjo & Kazooie if characters like Incineroar and a freaking generic Piranha Plant are given priority over super popular characters, as much as I'd like to be proven wrong. But I'm still looking forward to unlocking and trying everyone else and seeing how the game feels in comparison to the previous Smash games.

 

[Deleted member]

Don't give up Banjo-Kazooie fans still DLC.

Hope they can still be there.

 

[Deleted member]

Remember veggie burger said Minecraft content not rep/fighter just some other kind of representation. ok? Ok? dose anyone agree with me?


Also why would phill have lunch with Nintendo anyway it couldn’t be just for Minecraft am I right?

 

[Luigifan18]

Remember veggie burger said Minecraft content not rep/fighter just some other kind of representation. ok? Ok? dose anyone agree with me?


Also why would phill have lunch with Nintendo anyway it couldn’t be just for Minecraft am I right?

Yeah, I think papagenos was on to something. Banjo is most likely in the Fighter Pass.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

Remember veggie burger said Minecraft content not rep/fighter just some other kind of representation. ok? Ok? dose anyone agree with me?


Also why would phill have lunch with Nintendo anyway it couldn’t be just for Minecraft am I right?

It could, it absolutely could. Minecraft is the flagship of the Nintendo/Microsoft partnership as well

 

[Dixie Kong]

I think it’s safe to say Banjo would be likely at least in a season 2 of dlc.

 

[Deleted member]

Hey papagenos what did that guy say that said banjo was in smash?

 

[squirtgar]

Yeah, I think papagenos was on to something. Banjo is most likely in the Fighter Pass.

I agree, even tho he believed the leak as well his"sources sorce" had been saying Ken incineroar and banjo for the longest time. At least in his videos. If you remember in Geno's most recent vids. this was the case. I think papagenos was onto something but he wanted to believe the Grynch as well.

 

[papagenos]

Hey papagenos what did that guy say that said banjo was in smash?

i STILL believe my source and they always said their source was only sure of banjo. before the grinch leak my source was thinking box theory and then banjo would be dlc ,so we are back thinking that now. their source had only HEARD the banner characters and also incineroar so they were confused but we figured thats what we'd get after the grinch leak. now its back to just banjo dlc

"heard of all of the characters in this leak, but haven't had any solid proof and weren't sure to believe it until now. The only one they were sure on was Banjo, now they are sure on all. " -Quote about their microsoft source

"firmly in the Ken/Inceneroar/Isabelle camp for the entire time and mostly discredited everything else. The SE rep was 50/50, and I figured Banjo was DLC. It's still almost hard to believe the snapchat leak because it's so much, but we can't disprove it yet. " -quote about how they felt before the grinch leak

 

[JonSmash]

Yeah grinch leak guy/girl NEEDS to come out ! I would LOVE to see how it was done (altho the ken pose dose match his pose on the grinch leak lol how did he know what kens pose would be ? )

 

[TheCJBrine]

i STILL believe my source and they always said their source was only sure of banjo. before the grinch leak my source was thinking box theory and then banjo would be dlc ,so we are back thinking that now. their source had only HEARD the banner characters and also incineroar so they were confused but we figured thats what we'd get after the grinch leak. now its back to just banjo dlc

"heard of all of the characters in this leak, but haven't had any solid proof and weren't sure to believe it until now. The only one they were sure on was Banjo, now they are sure on all. " -Quote about their microsoft source

"firmly in the Ken/Inceneroar/Isabelle camp for the entire time and mostly discredited everything else. The SE rep was 50/50, and I figured Banjo was DLC. It's still almost hard to believe the snapchat leak because it's so much, but we can't disprove it yet. " -quote about how they felt before the grinch leak

This gives me hope.

#BearAndBirdForSmash

#PossiblySteveBlockheadForSmash

 

[volbound1700]

If Sakurai had a half a brain, the characters below would have been exchanged:

Isaac for Isabella
Impa for Ken
Skull Kid for Incenroar
Dixie Kong for Richter Belmont

You get far more popular picks in the pace of garbage characters. I also didn't have to add third-parties as well.

 

[TheZoologist]

i STILL believe my source and they always said their source was only sure of banjo. before the grinch leak my source was thinking box theory and then banjo would be dlc ,so we are back thinking that now. their source had only HEARD the banner characters and also incineroar so they were confused but we figured thats what we'd get after the grinch leak. now its back to just banjo dlc

"heard of all of the characters in this leak, but haven't had any solid proof and weren't sure to believe it until now. The only one they were sure on was Banjo, now they are sure on all. " -Quote about their microsoft source

"firmly in the Ken/Inceneroar/Isabelle camp for the entire time and mostly discredited everything else. The SE rep was 50/50, and I figured Banjo was DLC. It's still almost hard to believe the snapchat leak because it's so much, but we can't disprove it yet. " -quote about how they felt before the grinch leak

I'll believe it when I see it. Thanks for keeping the hope alive, though. I'll take what I have for now. If they make it into DLC, terrific. If not, still a great game. That has a Piranha Plant as a playable character...

 

[Sponge]

Banjo's been a huge discussion piece for this Smash cycle, something that wasn't as large last time and non-existent before hand. I'd say don't lose hope and keep your voices heard.

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

Where's that report that people were saying that Phil Spencer had lunch with Nintendo/Sakurai, Was it a rumor ? I want proof.

 

[UnknownJ25]

Yeah grinch leak guy/girl NEEDS to come out ! I would LOVE to see how it was done (altho the ken pose dose match his pose on the grinch leak lol how did he know what kens pose would be ? )

TBF the Ken pose is one of his signatures I think but almost exact gets me questioning

 

[Hobnail Boot]

Well, I'm not giving up hope. I know it's always been a long shot but I'm going to keep on hoping for DLC. Seeing papagenos stand by his source is keeping me going as well.

Even if he isn't DLC, I'm still excited by what we have. I've taken a long weekend for the games release and I'm going to enjoy it!

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

Where's that report that people were saying that Phil Spencer had lunch with Nintendo/Sakurai, Was it a rumor ? I want proof.

Phil himself said so during an interview at E3, there was a tweet circling around that showed the part but I think the original poster deleted it. Possibly after Grinch Leak was dead. Here's proof it existed though

 

[GravelerChamp60]

Something I wish we could clear up is whether Virginbrain said that Minecraft content and Square Enix would be in the base game or DLC? I was always under the assumption that he said they would be in the base game, but everyone is mixing it up that I don't know anymore what to believe?

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

Something I wish we could clear up is whether Virginbrain said that Minecraft content and Square Enix would be in the base game or DLC? I was always under the assumption that he said they would be in the base game, but everyone is mixing it up that I don't know anymore what to believe?

His words did imply base game, though now it could be DLC

Also apparently I heard that he recently said he's known about Piranha Plant but never leaked it because he knew everyone would despise it

 

[Yitsul]

add me to the supporter list

 

[EpicElliot]

I'm just waiting for the next smash so we can get Dry Pirahnha Plant as an Echo fighter

On a more serious note I always DID want generic Mario baddys in smash....but as bowser Jr alts ridding the clown car made more sense to me

& In my personal opinion Shy > Piranha Plant Shy guys have so many different types/outfits & froms for a moveset always thought shy guy would be a perfect Yoshi rep so much they could do

 

[TCT~Phantom]

Things... look decent.

Yes not being in base bites. But we have a good shot for DLC. Banjo is super popular, can you imagine how hype people would be for him? I feel that given how they worded things for the fighters pass, we will be seeing mainly third parties. In that category, we stand tall.

We do not have much real competition aside from Steve. All we need to do is wait and hope the Phil Spencer meeting was productive for us.

 

[QcSlayer]

Hello fellow Banjo-Kazooie bros, I know that BK have a really good shot of behing DLC, and it would be pretty cool to see those 2 joining the roster of playable characters.

However I you feel like it, you can join us in the Grinch Alliance, this discord server will promote the characters on the Grinch leak banner in order to make it real one day, the Ultimate Smash game. Come discuss whit us about why you like your character so much!

https://discord.gg/vgvAtW

 

[dlewis53]

Honestly, I don't really get why you guys are so bummed out; sure, it stung a bit when Banjo-Kazooie wasn't revealed for the base roster, and I might be quite a bit more sympathetic if DLC wasn't confirmed, but the thing is...it was. DLC was not only confirmed, but we've confirmed FIVE DLC characters that are also getting their own stages and music, which is a scenario that fits Banjo-Kazooie perfectly. And honestly, I don't buy that Piranha Plant is a sign that "Oh, their odds are now practically zero"; for all we know, Sakurai could've just wanted to add in an incredibly fun-looking oddball character that no one would ever expect to be made playable, which is something that he's done since Melee. No offense, but I think you guys might be letting your disappointment cloud your judgment just a bit.

 

[Juliusaurus]

Minecraft only helps Banjo-Kazooie's chances, I keep saying this, and I still don't see how it doesn't. Getting Microsoft on board, and if that's through Minecraft, so be it. If we get a Minecraft Stage but Banjo-Kazooie as a character, that'd be truly excellent. But we're now back down from likely to just possible, since DLC has put a lot of limitations on things... But still, if Vergeben is right, as he's been so far, Microsoft is likely part of this, and that's only helping what we want here. So it's enough to keep hope alive.

Also, yeah, Phil, the fans, Sakurai, we all want them, and it could very well be enough to get them in. Keep hope alive, guys! Rare and Nintendo will reunite with Banjo-Kazooie in Smash Bros., this is NOT the end.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

Why would we get a Minecraft stage and Banjo-Kazooie as the character? If they're selling packs as Character, Stage, Music, shouldn't they all be from the same series? I'd assume if we'd get a Minecraft stage we'd get Steve and Minecraft music

 

[Juliusaurus]

Because they're both from Microsoft, and one serves better as a stage and the other serves better as a character, seems logical enough to me.

 

[Gemini-Gene]

His words did imply base game, though now it could be DLC

Also apparently I heard that he recently said he's known about Piranha Plant but never leaked it because he knew everyone would despise it

I'm going to call bulll**** on Vergeben. There's no way he knew Sakurai was going to add a Piranha Plant in Smash Ultimate.

 

[PK-remling Fire]

With this direct, I am really afraid that Banjo might not make it as DLC. The only thing that kept Steve from being seen as a contender was that he wouldn't feel right as a fighter, but with Piranha Plant now added, I'm feeling more shaken than before. Since Sakurai said that he loved playing Minecraft, I could picture him saying screw the fans and putting in Steve as the MS rep despite everyone wanting Banjo. At that point, it's just more profitable.

 

[Gemini-Gene]

With this direct, I am really afraid that Banjo might not make it as DLC. The only thing that kept Steve from being seen as a contender was that he wouldn't feel right as a fighter, but with Piranha Plant now added, I'm feeling more shaken than before. Since Sakurai said that he loved playing Minecraft, I could picture him saying screw the fans and putting in Steve as the MS rep despite everyone wanting Banjo. At that point, it's just more profitable.

If Piranha Plant is any indication it's that Sakurai's bias may play in Banjo-Kazooie's favor. Characters that he wanted in Smash but couldn't include due to circumstances, as well as characters he created like Bandana Dee haven't been deconfirmed as Trophies or Mii Costumes. It may not be much to go on since we can't use the popularity or most requested points for B-K, but the only thing we can do is hope for the best and keep expectations low, support B-K and of course enjoy what Sakurai has given us in Ultimate.

 

[Deleted member]

With this direct, I am really afraid that Banjo might not make it as DLC. The only thing that kept Steve from being seen as a contender was that he wouldn't feel right as a fighter, but with Piranha Plant now added, I'm feeling more shaken than before. Since Sakurai said that he loved playing Minecraft, I could picture him saying screw the fans and putting in Steve as the MS rep despite everyone wanting Banjo. At that point, it's just more profitable.

He’s just a skin without a personality while the plant dose. So stage at best nothing else plus phill wants banjo in smash and so dose sakurai

 

[Thunderfang747]

One thing to consider is that I remember Papa Genos saying that his source's Microsoft source had proof of Banjo. He said that his source assumed Banjo must be dlc until the Grinch leak came out and they then spent their time trying to prove said leak true. However, now that we know the Grinch leak is somehow fake, wouldn't that just bring them back to where his source started? If this source of papa genos is so credible, Banjo is maybe closer than we think...

 

[Thunderfang747]

One thing to consider is that I remember Papa Genos saying that his source's Microsoft source had proof of Banjo. He said that his source assumed Banjo must be dlc until the Grinch leak came out and they then spent their time trying to prove said leak true. However, now that we know the Grinch leak is somehow fake, wouldn't that just bring them back to where his source started? If this source of papa genos is so credible, Banjo is maybe closer than we think...

edit, lol oof didn't realize the man posted here already saying the same thing, my bad also sorry for accidental doublepost

 

[Juliusaurus]

I mean, if Banjo-Kazooie was only added earlier this year, he realistically wouldn't have made it in as a base roster character anyway, if we're being realistic... Also I can imagine Nintendo and Microsoft working out a more financially beneficial deal with DLC payments rather than payments on every game purchased. The only thing to do now is wait and see. We had faith before the Grinch, and we can keep that faith going forward. Five DLC characters is quite a bit when you think about it. So far we have 6 unique newcomers in base, and one confirmed DLC that isn't included as part of the series of five, meaning, we'll have just as many unique newcomer DLC as we did in the base roster. That's pretty significant, and there's no way they'd all be weirdos like Piranha Plant is (unless Sakurai truly is insane).

The one concerning element is that DLC offers nothing but one character, one stage, and just songs on top of that. No Assist Trophies. No story details... Of course no trophy anything, but that goes without saying. And I'd imagine no Spirits either. If we get Banjo-Kazooie, they could end up very alone. Better than not at all anyway. I'd say their chances were as good as they've ever been, unlike many other characters that were deconfirmed or seemingly deconfirmed in the Direct.