Banjo-Kazooie: Dynamic Jiggy Duo - Project Dream

[SilverWolf7]

It means absolutely nothing. For a start, all the hidden characters are in one slot anyway, and I really don't think it's decided at this point how many characters are gonna be made. That character list has been there since E3 2013, nothing to read into here.

Lucas isn't even in that character list yet guys!

That being said, I do think more than one character will be made. I highly doubt it will be anymore than 6 though, and even 6 may be pushing it. I'm not 100%, of course, but I'm quite confident that Wolf will be announced as DLC, regardless of this ballot. We have two returning from Melee, might as well have two return from Brawl, since Lucas returned. Plus, Star Fox for Wii U.

 

[Someguyyoulikelydontknow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfthppOnIsc

http://mynintendonews.com/2015/04/0...ots-on-the-super-smash-bros-character-lineup/

what do you think?

If this means I could get Banjo/Kazooie AND K. Rool for Smash DLC, I would die of happiness.

 

[Narth]

That being said, I do think more than one character will be made. I highly doubt it will be anymore than 6 though, and even 6 may be pushing it. I'm not 100%, of course, but I'm quite confident that Wolf will be announced as DLC, regardless of this ballot. We have two returning from Melee, might as well have two return from Brawl, since Lucas returned. Plus, Star Fox for Wii U.

Sakurai has already said they will try as hard as they can, but they won't be making too many. Sounds like two or three to me, but there could easily be more. I do agree, though, that I think Wolf will get in regardless. Here's hoping! :3

 

[CitrusRain]

I do agree, though, that I think Wolf will get in regardless. Here's hoping! :3

Wolf?
That's like the worst veteran to pick. I don't know any- Oh wait. My brother uses him. He just plays brawl once a year.

 

[Narth]

Wolf?
That's like the worst veteran to pick. I don't know any- Oh wait. My brother uses him. He just plays brawl once a year.

I don't think Wolf is the worst to return at all. Roy has been replaced by Lucina, Pichu is a Pikachu clone that get's damaged all the time, and Snake never fit with the series and was essentially forced upon Sakurai.

Although I would much rather Ivysaur and / or Squirtle returning over Wolf, I don't see them likely at all. Wolf is, it seems, the most likely choice.

 

[Starcutter]

Alright who the heck is the guy who stole my banjo thread without asking me first?

(I now notice this isn't my exact thread but whatever sure make a new one IDC)

 

[HylianHeroBigBoss]

and Snake never fit with the series and was essentially forced upon Sakurai.

The first part is your opinion, as for the last part, sakurai was never forced to do anything. He chose to include him upon request, he didnt have to do anything if he didnt think it worked.

 

[Narth]

The first part is your opinion, as for the last part, sakurai was never forced to do anything. He chose to include him upon request, he didnt have to do anything if he didnt think it worked.

Fair enough, Sakurai likes having control!

 

[PKFreeze89]

No way Nintendo will share the attention with an Xbox character.

 

[SilverWolf7]

Sakurai has already said they will try as hard as they can't, but they won't be making too many. Sounds like two or three to me, but there could easily be more. I do agree, though, that I think Wolf will get in regardless. Here's hoping! :3

Sakurai said a lot of things.

Have any of them come true?

 

[Narth]

Sakurai said a lot of things.

Have any of them come true?

Yeah, I'm expecting about five more after Mewtwo and Lucas, including at least one third-party (Banjo and / or Rayman hopefully)

 

[Arcadenik]

If Nintendo and Microsoft work together to allow Banjo-Kazooie to be playable in Smash... then I want them to work together to remake both N64 games for the 3DS... or at least bring them to Wii U Virtual Console.

 

[Narth]

If Nintendo and Microsoft work together to allow Banjo-Kazooie to be playable in Smash... then I want them to work together to remake both N64 games for the 3DS... or at least bring them to Wii U Virtual Console.

That would be sooooooo good. I mean, I don't mind too much if it doesn't happen, because I have both on XBLA, but seriously I would crumble with nostalgia. Just imagine the new graphics... the remastered music... <3

 

[Manic Rykker]

It means absolutely nothing. For a start, all the hidden characters are in one slot anyway, and I really don't think it's decided at this point how many characters are gonna be made. That character list has been there since E3 2013, nothing to read into here.

Lucas isn't even in that character list yet guys!

Just to add to that, Mewtwo didn't end up showing up on the list either until the direct, and he had been announced months prior

No way Nintendo will share the attention with an Xbox character.

This ballot is about the fans. They knew what they were getting into when they started all of this.

Lets also face it. Their doing this DLC to have a method to get more revenue from Smash over the coming months. A character like Banjo would definitely be a big hit with old fans of the N64 days, and the Banjo-Kazooie games to begin with, so would more than likely be an instabuy for some. It would benefit both parties. Same applies to any other 3rd Party characters' companies/owners. Do I also need to bring up the fact they have stated that ANY videogame Character is eligible for the ballot? That gives a lot characters a chance here.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not exactly a fan of them either. But Banjo is definitely more Nintendo than he is Microsoft. Calling him a Microsoft character is very blind. He may be owned by the corporate scum, but he will always be more Nintendo than he is Microsoft.. He had his start on the N64. Two of the three games were on that console. (Not to mention the 3rd, was a spinoff.. Not even a true sequel)

If Nintendo and Microsoft work together to allow Banjo-Kazooie to be playable in Smash... then I want them to work together to remake both N64 games for the 3DS... or at least bring them to Wii U Virtual Console.

Also a good point. Stuff like this give a lot of future possibilities. If it worked out well, it could very well happen. After all, as Phil stated, they have "worked with Nintendo on Rare IPs in the past".

 

[Banjodorf]

If Nintendo and Microsoft work together to allow Banjo-Kazooie to be playable in Smash... then I want them to work together to remake both N64 games for the 3DS... or at least bring them to Wii U Virtual Console.

That's something that could make bringing Banjo to Smash actually seem like a marketable idea to Nintendo. If they got Banjo into Smash, they'd probably want to negotiate the rights to BK, Tooie and Grunty's Revenge for the Wii U e-shop. Definitely a good way to get them to want to do it more.

Also, @ Manic Rykker , mind if I borrow the Banjo vote image in your sig?

 

[Manic Rykker]

That's something that could make bringing Banjo to Smash actually seem like a marketable idea to Nintendo. If they got Banjo into Smash, they'd probably want to negotiate the rights to BK, Tooie and Grunty's Revenge for the Wii U e-shop. Definitely a good way to get them to want to do it more.

Also, @ Manic Rykker , mind if I borrow the Banjo vote image in your sig?

Not at all. That would be Citrusrain's fine creation if I recall!

 

[Narth]

Anyone share my want for Diddy Kong Racing on Wii U VC? I really didn't dig the DS version, though the races themselves were great, as they were in the 64 one.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Anyone share my want for Diddy Kong Racing on Wii U VC? I really didn't dig the DS version, though the races themselves were great, as they were in the 64 one.

I would like a Diddy Kong Racing 2, but a VC port of the first game would be nice.

 

[Narth]

I would like a Diddy Kong Racing 2, but a VC port of the first game would be nice.

It's just that I sold my 64 with the games a year or two ago, and I always have the urge to play that game, the only game in that collection I sold that I have no other means of playing. I can still play Banjo on my Xbox and Super Mario 64 will be on my Wii U soon, but not that one. My PC can't even emulate it well :'(

 

[CitrusRain]

It's just that I sold my 64 with the games a year or two ago, and I always have the urge to play that game, the only game in that collection I sold that I have no other means of playing. I can still play Banjo on my Xbox and Super Mario 64 will be on my Wii U soon, but not that one. My PC can't even emulate it well :'(

Personally, I would just emulate it on the Wii. Because it's got Usb Loader GX.

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

It's just that I sold my 64 with the games a year or two ago, and I always have the urge to play that game, the only game in that collection I sold that I have no other means of playing. I can still play Banjo on my Xbox and Super Mario 64 will be on my Wii U soon, but not that one. My PC can't even emulate it well :'(

I'm pretty sure they could find a way to bring it to the VC. Banjo and Conker are the only obstacles for getting that game on the VC, but they could get around it like they did with Jetpac and DK64 (assuming the upcoming VC release has it).

 

[Narth]

Personally, I would just emulate it on the Wii. Because it's got Usb Loader GX.

Shall bear it in mind, cheers!!

 

[Arcadenik]

If Banjo-Kazooie gets in Smash, I want to see them interacting with Duck Hunt Duo in the trailer.

 

[SilverWolf7]

If Banjo-Kazooie gets in Smash, I want to see them interacting with Duck Hunt Duo in the trailer.

That'd be a pretty cool idea. Despite what anyone says, there's not way that they could be a clone. Duck Hunt Duo isn't even bipedal XD

 

[Manic Rykker]

If Banjo-Kazooie gets in Smash, I want to see them interacting with Duck Hunt Duo in the trailer.

That would certainly be interesting and fun to see!

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Anyways, this is one of the things I like about this sort of thing.. It tends to open so many doors for the character and franchise that get in.

Look at Fire Emblem. While it is true that Sakurai was afraid of releasing them outside of Japan at first, due to the fear it could alienate the Western base... he couldn't have made any better choice than releasing them anyway like he did. It probably made the series what it is today to be honest.

Another example would be Pit. He was from a series that was long dead, but Sakurai brought the concept back to life for Smash bros.. He ended up making a new game in that series some time later, and I would say it definitely benefited the winged fighter.

Needless to say, Smash certainly benefits a character/franchise. I could only imagine what it could do for Banjo... or Shantae for that matter, since She still needs the exposure too. Ray could still get benefits from the affair too. All in all, these sort of instances provide the characters with exposure. I'm most certainly sure most of us wouldn't have known who Marth, Roy, Ike, or any of the fire emblem characters were if it hadn't have been for their appearance in Melee... Heck. I have Smash to thank for my knowledge of the Earthbound/Mother series...

Edit: and while Sakurai is the creator of the Kid Icarus series, would it have gotten as much exposure had it not been for Smash?

 

[Arcadenik]

That'd be a pretty cool idea. Despite what anyone says, there's not way that they could be a clone. Duck Hunt Duo isn't even bipedal XD

Duck Hunt Dog can be bipedal if he wants to...

Damn, I really wish that both Simon Belmont and Banjo-Kazooie would get in Smash.

 

[SpectreJordan]

All of that aside, I wonder if Microsoft started trying all this different stuff because of Project Ukulele.. I mean it would definitely kill the point of having the Banjo IP if it just got upstaged by something else, so it figures they would want to try to throw some stuff together to try to keep from getting overshadowed..

I doubt it. If the movie & new game rumors are true, they'd have to of had these in the pipes since before Project Ukulele was announced. Spencer's Smash comment was spur of the moment though.

 

[MasterWarlord]

I really don’t like going into the threads of other characters to attack them for no reason – I have a reason for coming to this one specifically, though. Please don’t treat this post as hostile, as you could potentially convince me to vote for Banjo. I’m a fan of Banjo and actually prefer the Banjo games to the Donkey Kong games, I just prefer K. Rool as a character.

What makes you think that Nintendo would be open to adding Banjo to the game? Of course the 3rd party is open to having their character added to Smash Bros., as it does nothing but advertise their intellectual property. There are rumors of Microsoft Banjo games in the works, and I could certainly see Microsoft have more interest in funding those games if Banjo was in Smash Bros. While that sounds great, all the money would be getting siphoned to Microsoft, leaving Nintendo no reason to approve of such a partnership. Microsoft could potentially even charge Nintendo for a portion of the DLC sales to make him even less appealing.

The reason why I am coming to your thread is to ask people voting for Banjo to consider voting for K. Rool instead of what I personally would not consider a viable pick. The vote between Donkey Kong fans would obviously get split with Banjo, considering both were masterpieces of games made by Rare at their peak. While K. Rool is leading polls, he can still use all the support he can get considering Sakurai obviously has a pretty heavy bias against Donkey Kong, so some ridiculous number may be needed. It would be ideal if Rare fans could be united during this crucial time.

 

[Banjodorf]

Any way we can access the old thread? I can't seem to find my entire B&K write-up with moveset anywhere, and it used to be there, but I can't find it.

 

[CitrusRain]

I really don’t like going into the threads of other characters to attack them for no reason – I have a reason for coming to this one specifically, though. Please don’t treat this post as hostile, as you could potentially convince me to vote for Banjo. I’m a fan of Banjo and actually prefer the Banjo games to the Donkey Kong games, I just prefer K. Rool as a character.

What makes you think that Nintendo would be open to adding Banjo to the game? Of course the 3rd party is open to having their character added to Smash Bros., as it does nothing but advertise their intellectual property. There are rumors of Microsoft Banjo games in the works, and I could certainly see Microsoft have more interest in funding those games if Banjo was in Smash Bros. While that sounds great, all the money would be getting siphoned to Microsoft, leaving Nintendo no reason to approve of such a partnership. Microsoft could potentially even charge Nintendo for a portion of the DLC sales to make him even less appealing.

The reason why I am coming to your thread is to ask people voting for Banjo to consider voting for K. Rool instead of what I personally would not consider a viable pick. The vote between Donkey Kong fans would obviously get split with Banjo, considering both were masterpieces of games made by Rare at their peak. While K. Rool is leading polls, he can still use all the support he can get considering Sakurai obviously has a pretty heavy bias against Donkey Kong, so some ridiculous number may be needed. It would be ideal if Rare fans could be united during this crucial time.

I for one am not very good at any Donkey Kong games, and as such have no nostalgia for any of them. I did not have DK64 either.
You'll get no sympathy from me.

 

[Manic Rykker]

I really don’t like going into the threads of other characters to attack them for no reason – I have a reason for coming to this one specifically, though. Please don’t treat this post as hostile, as you could potentially convince me to vote for Banjo. I’m a fan of Banjo and actually prefer the Banjo games to the Donkey Kong games, I just prefer K. Rool as a character.

What makes you think that Nintendo would be open to adding Banjo to the game? Of course the 3rd party is open to having their character added to Smash Bros., as it does nothing but advertise their intellectual property. There are rumors of Microsoft Banjo games in the works, and I could certainly see Microsoft have more interest in funding those games if Banjo was in Smash Bros. While that sounds great, all the money would be getting siphoned to Microsoft, leaving Nintendo no reason to approve of such a partnership. Microsoft could potentially even charge Nintendo for a portion of the DLC sales to make him even less appealing.

The reason why I am coming to your thread is to ask people voting for Banjo to consider voting for K. Rool instead of what I personally would not consider a viable pick. The vote between Donkey Kong fans would obviously get split with Banjo, considering both were masterpieces of games made by Rare at their peak. While K. Rool is leading polls, he can still use all the support he can get considering Sakurai obviously has a pretty heavy bias against Donkey Kong, so some ridiculous number may be needed. It would be ideal if Rare fans could be united during this crucial time.

I can see where you're coming from, being a DK fan myself.

To answer the first bit, The same thing could be said about Sonic. Or Megaman, or Pacman. Infact, 3rd Party characters tends to benefit the owner of the character anyways. It would suck for a character with such history with Nintendo, and with unique aspects to bring to the roster to have to be shafted just because he happens to belong to.. "them". Same goes for Rayman and Shantae.

As for King K... I like em. I could definitely see the fellow having a unique moveset. Plus he is the main villain... (at least in most of them he was.. -_- Darn it Retro)

I personally see a lot of characters that are good candidates in this ballot. I can't wait to see what comes out of all of this :D

 

[MagnesD3]

This would be my favorite 3rd party character for sure if this actually becomes a thing, I really hope you guys are outsourcing to get as many votes as possible.

 

[SilverWolf7]

I really don’t like going into the threads of other characters to attack them for no reason – I have a reason for coming to this one specifically, though. Please don’t treat this post as hostile, as you could potentially convince me to vote for Banjo. I’m a fan of Banjo and actually prefer the Banjo games to the Donkey Kong games, I just prefer K. Rool as a character.

What makes you think that Nintendo would be open to adding Banjo to the game? Of course the 3rd party is open to having their character added to Smash Bros., as it does nothing but advertise their intellectual property. There are rumors of Microsoft Banjo games in the works, and I could certainly see Microsoft have more interest in funding those games if Banjo was in Smash Bros. While that sounds great, all the money would be getting siphoned to Microsoft, leaving Nintendo no reason to approve of such a partnership. Microsoft could potentially even charge Nintendo for a portion of the DLC sales to make him even less appealing.

The reason why I am coming to your thread is to ask people voting for Banjo to consider voting for K. Rool instead of what I personally would not consider a viable pick. The vote between Donkey Kong fans would obviously get split with Banjo, considering both were masterpieces of games made by Rare at their peak. While K. Rool is leading polls, he can still use all the support he can get considering Sakurai obviously has a pretty heavy bias against Donkey Kong, so some ridiculous number may be needed. It would be ideal if Rare fans could be united during this crucial time.

1) This is about bringing in characters that the fans want. If you want K. Rool, vote for K. Rool (I might even vote for him as long I'm 100% certain that he'd have the same voice actor as in The Legend of the Crystal Coconut ). While of course some characters will just never get in such as Goku or Shrek, no matter how many votes are sent in, Sakurai will be adding what fans want the most, so long as they are a video game character, fit in the game and have been on at least one Nintendo console at some point. Banjo has been on TWO NINTENDO CONSOLES, actually.
2) Nintendo could profit in that anyone who is on Xbox and is fans of playing the games on the Xbox Live Arcade, would be really hyped up, hearing that a character that they like, from games that they enjoy, is in the greatest fighting game of all time alongside Megaman, Pacman, Sonic and Mario.
3) This is basically number 2, but let's suppose a new Banjo game does indeed come to Xbox One and it doesn't suck. If it does super well and everyone loves it, that may be an incentive for fans of that game to get a Wii U or 3DS, hearing that Banjo is playable in Super Smash Brothers. Super Smash Brothers is a very big and amazing game. I know people that seriously want to buy a Wii U just for Smash (why they don't is simply due to funds). And some of them are almost exclusively Xbox 360 players that enjoy first person shooters. Nevertheless, it is honestly sort of hard for me to find people that genuinely hate Super Smash Bros. It is a huge success, and this is exactly why many game developers are trying to get their fans to vote for their characters like Shantae in the ballot.
4) Which brings us to number 4, Microsoft probably WOULD profit, especially if the new Banjo game does indeed come out. That being said, Nintendo would too, and Spencer already said that he thinks it would be cool if Banjo was the next DLC for Smash Bros.
5) In the words of Spencer, they have "worked with Nintendo on Rare IP before, no issues." This is entirely true. Actually, Banjo Pilot was made after Rare was sold over to Microsoft along with the Banjo-Kazooie intellectual property. He may not have been in Diddy Kong Racing when that was re-released, but if Microsoft or Nintendo really had a problem with Banjo being on a Nintendo console, Banjo Pilot would have been cancelled.

6) Banjo-Kazooie were going to be in a previous iteration of Super Smash Brothers. (You may argue this was back when Nintendo still had Rare, but I would then suspect you have forgotten point number 5 of my post.) The only reason they were not added was due to time constraints. That means that Sakurai himself thinks that they can fit in Smash Bros. as a fighter, as they were planned to be a fighter already. He may already have thought up quite a moveset for all we know.

NUMBAH SEVEN) If enough people want him, they should vote for him. And Banjo-Kazooie needs more votes than even K. Rool, simply because he technically is third party, where as K. Rool is not. Banjo-Kazooie deserves to be in Smash.

 

[SilverWolf7]

This would be my favorite 3rd party character for sure if this actually becomes a thing, I really hope you guys are outsourcing to get as many votes as possible.

you voting for Banjo too?

 

[Ripmaw]

Lol logged in to say what silver wolf said XD but he nailed it this is my opinion but 3rd party characters is what the ballot should be about . Adding characters to already established rosters is more of a next smash game kind of thing. If i can have hopes for the main ive wanted since the first installment of smash im going to take my chances.

 

[MagnesD3]

you voting for Banjo too?

Yes, Ive voted for several characters.

 

[TheAnvil]

I don't know why people think Nintendo won't allow Banjo just because he's microsoft owned.

 

[redfeatherraven]

Y'all make a compelling argument.

I'm rooting for you.

 

[SilverWolf7]

Y'all make a compelling argument.

I'm rooting for you.

That's so much appreciated.

Voting would be even more appreciated. :D

 

[redfeatherraven]

That's so much appreciated.

Voting would be even more appreciated. :D

Never fear. Already done, son.