Bandana Dee, the Spear Master! (v(- ' ' -)>↑ ~ Dee wait is killing us...

[Sid-cada]

While I don't think that he needs a gimmick, I was giving an idea on a possible play style.
The Marth argument is something that I find to be legitimate. Swords and spears are different, but Marth's play style is a fencing playstyle where the tip is the strongest in terms of damage and knockback.
Admittedly, my idea would need to be changed as @ Wintropy pointed out, since he is screwed against Villager and he would be fine on stages like FD and BF, but screwed on Palutena's Temple.

I think that we should work beyond "The spear will make him unique." The question is, Why will make him unique?
I am OK with or without Vega Dee, but I will still have it around as an idea because I think that it can work.

Whenever I try and make a moveset for Bandanna Dee, I always figured that he would have an emphasis on multi-hit moves, locking down opponents at mid-range with his long-lasting flurry of blows that contain lots of little hits with a large number of combos. This gives him amazing damage racking potential, and the Spear Toss ability gives him the tool he needs to close the gap when they get too far away. Combined with the Spear Copter, Dee should have little to no problems racking up the damage he needs for that KO.

The problems come in once he whiffs. The long lasting attacks may make shield pressure and dodging, but the double edge sword is that they leave him wide open. Failing to hit gives the opponent plenty of time to counter, so he really has to commit to most of his attacks. Otherwise, as one of the lightest characters in the game (somewhere between Kirby and Jiggly, probably), he's going down quite quickly.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

Nah, we have it all set up, plus some may like items, and they could always be ignored, so I think not.

Yes I meant OP, sorry don't know how I screwed that up! XD

Well, it's impossible to ignore items unless both parties silently agree to it.

When you said we were going to have a tournament, I thought it was going to be a little RNG reliant... I'm less than impressed. Nobody gets to see my Kirby gonzo-combos if we're too busy running after Gust Bellows instead.

I'd prefer a tournament reset with no items on, please.

 

[MarioMeteor]

Whenever I try and make a moveset for Bandanna Dee, I always figured that he would have an emphasis on multi-hit moves, locking down opponents at mid-range with his long-lasting flurry of blows that contain lots of little hits with a large number of combos. This gives him amazing damage racking potential, and the Spear Toss ability gives him the tool he needs to close the gap when they get too far away. Combined with the Spear Copter, Dee should have little to no problems racking up the damage he needs for that KO.

The problems come in once he whiffs. The long lasting attacks may make shield pressure and dodging, but the double edge sword is that they leave him wide open. Failing to hit gives the opponent plenty of time to counter, so he really has to commit to most of his attacks. Otherwise, as one of the lightest characters in the game (somewhere between Kirby and Jiggly, probably), he's going down quite quickly.

I imagine that he'd be heavier than Kirby because of the spear. Somewhere around Toon Link's weight.

 

[Wintropy]

Whenever I try and make a moveset for Bandanna Dee, I always figured that he would have an emphasis on multi-hit moves, locking down opponents at mid-range with his long-lasting flurry of blows that contain lots of little hits with a large number of combos. This gives him amazing damage racking potential, and the Spear Toss ability gives him the tool he needs to close the gap when they get too far away. Combined with the Spear Copter, Dee should have little to no problems racking up the damage he needs for that KO.

The problems come in once he whiffs. The long lasting attacks may make shield pressure and dodging, but the double edge sword is that they leave him wide open. Failing to hit gives the opponent plenty of time to counter, so he really has to commit to most of his attacks. Otherwise, as one of the lightest characters in the game (somewhere between Kirby and Jiggly, probably), he's going down quite quickly.

This is exactly the kind of thing I meant.

I love this concept.

 

[MarioMeteor]

Well, it's impossible to ignore items unless both parties silently agree to it.

When you said we were going to have a tournament, I thought it was going to be a little RNG reliant... I'm less than impressed. Nobody gets to see my Kirby gonzo-combos if we're too busy running after Gust Bellows instead.

I'd prefer a tournament reset with no items on, please.

The world must be ending, I finally agree with you on something, Robby.

 

[GhostlyLure]

Well, it's impossible to ignore items unless both parties silently agree to it.

When you said we were going to have a tournament, I thought it was going to be a little RNG reliant... I'm less than impressed. Nobody gets to see my Kirby gonzo-combos if we're too busy running after Gust Bellows instead.

I'd prefer a tournament reset with no items on, please.

Yes seriously...i got dem Kirby combos on tap.

My bad luck always gets me...

I'm in the middle of a jab and bam a Crate spawn in the middle and woopty do...it explodes

 

[Tortilla Noggin]

I'm in the middle of a jab and bam a Crate spawn in the middle and woopty do...it explodes

That's almost as bad as using Dedede's "Super Lag Hammer" in the same situation. Poor penguin invariably gets sent flying.

 

[BandanaWaddleDee]

All this item hate.

Filthy non casuals

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

Yes seriously...i got dem Kirby combos on tap.

My bad luck always gets me...

I'm in the middle of a jab and bam a Crate spawn in the middle and woopty do...it explodes

I'm really salty about the stage selection, too. I've played against someone multiple times now for the Rankings, and it's picked their stage every time. They always play with something with hazards and/or walk-offs. The only time I've won was when they chose Skyloft, which is, god forbid, actually legal in a tournament. It's really annoying and I'm frankly not even going to participate in this tournament if I have to keep playing in those conditions.

Seriously, it's not a tournament if I'm fighting against everything around me rather than my opponent. @ NintenZ , please redo this tournament's settings. I'll go on For Fun if I wanted to play Smash in a brain-dead matter.

All this item hate.

Filthy non casuals

If being a filthy non casual is the only way I'd get to fight an opponent rather than scavenge the stage, can you blame them?

 

[Chandeelure]

I'm not sure about Bandana Dee being heavier than Kirby, Ness has a cap and a backpack and he is not heavier than Lucas.

 

[Sid-cada]

I imagine that he'd be heavier than Kirby because of the spear. Somewhere around Toon Link's weight.

I always imagined him to be lighter than Kirby. I just can't shake it, due to the Waddle Dee Ball in Canvas Curse being lighter and bouncier than Kirby. It fits him, especially because he is part of a "weak species" known for dying easily.

 

[Chandeelure]

Also, I noticed Bandana Dee is slighty smaller than Kirby and the normal Waddle Dees XD
That makes him more cute.

 

[GhostlyLure]

I made the Tourney

The Tourney ID is

63483933917774

The Password is DeeLC


It needs to be done EXACTLY LIKE THAT.

The battles will start in 28 minutes

No Items...mostly skill...

except for no 1 V 1'S >.>

 

[NintenZ]

I made the Tourney

The Tourney ID is

63483933917774

The Password is DeeLC


It needs to be done EXACTLY LIKE THAT.

The battles will start in 28 minutes

No Items...mostly skill...

except for no 1 V 1'S >.>

Actually, let me do something, I'll make a tourney anyone can play! No items, omega forms only! is that better?

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

Actually, let me do something, I'll make a tourney anyone can play! No items, omega forms only!

1v1 or 4-player? Customs?

@ GhostlyLure
It's probably better if you two figure out who's organizing this.

 

[GhostlyLure]

Actually, let me do something, I'll make a tourney anyone can play! No items, omega forms only! is that better?

Too late...


You can't make 1 v 1 tourneys. :U

I hate it to


I ran into the cheapest Rosalina in 1 V 1 For Glory Customs...needless to say..Customs are offff

 

[NintenZ]

1v1 or 4-player? Customs?

@ GhostlyLure
It's probably better if you two figure out who's organizing this.

I'll keep Mii Fighters on, also is their multiple lobbies so others can play 1v.1 at once? One more question, is Smash Ball okay, because that's the only item I actually keep on, would that be okay?

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

I ran into the cheapest Rosalina in 1 V 1 For Glory Customs...needless to say..Customs are offff

Wait, was this a tournament...?

I'll admit that equipment is completely broken, but the moves can be fun to mess around with. I know for a fact that I love Kirby's Giant Hammer special.

I'll keep Mii Fighters on, also is their multiple lobbies? One more question, is Smash Ball okay, because that's the only item I actually keep on, would that be okay?

It's not tournament standard, but hey, why not. The Smash Ball is a different animal completely in terms of rushing over to it.

 

[Deleted member]

I made the Tourney

The Tourney ID is

63483933917774

The Password is DeeLC


It needs to be done EXACTLY LIKE THAT.

The battles will start in 28 minutes

No Items...mostly skill...

except for no 1 V 1'S >.>

Will Mii's be allowed?

 

[NintenZ]

Wait, was this a tournament...?

I'll admit that equipment is completely broken, but the moves can be fun to mess around with. I know for a fact that I love Kirby's Giant Hammer special.

It's not tournament standard, but hey, why not. The Smash Ball is a different animal completely in terms of rushing over to it.

I'll put it on low. No customs, random Omegas, Smash Ball only, low items, four stock, five minutes, how does that sound?

 

[GhostlyLure]

Will Mii's be allowed?

Yes.

Wait, was this a tournament...?

I'll admit that equipment is completely broken, but the moves can be fun to mess around with. I know for a fact that I love Kirby's Giant Hammer special.

It's not tournament standard, but hey, why not. The Smash Ball is a different animal completely in terms of rushing over to it.

When customs are coming on equipment is to.


Ninten I already took care of it >.>.>

 

[Deleted member]

Yes.

Goodie!

 

[BandanaWaddleDee]

I made the Tourney

The Tourney ID is

63483933917774

The Password is DeeLC


It needs to be done EXACTLY LIKE THAT.

The battles will start in 28 minutes

No Items...mostly skill...

except for no 1 V 1'S >.>

No items? Only omegas?
Take the fun out of it, why don'tcha?

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

When customs are coming on equipment is to.

I'm just saying, as the TO, it'd be your call here to say "Nobody use equipment!" and that we should adhere to that on an honor system. Of course, if you want us to use equipment alongside our customs, that puts anyone without equipment ready at a serious disadvantage...

 

[GhostlyLure]

No items? Only omegas?
Take the fun out of it, why don'tcha?

You right lets have walk offs and no skill involved ^.^

Some of us enjoy an actual challenge...

Anyways I just got sub-tweeted in teh Wolf thread...so I gotta deal with that...


Spouting lies about me.

 

[smashkirby]

I honestly think B.D. should either be lighter than or the exact same weight as Kirby. Only difference? The little guy CAN'T fly like Kirby, Meta Knight, or even King DDD. Also, giving him the distinction of even being the first Kirby character who doesn't have the power of flight on his (Unintentional pun there, folks. Sorry.) However, the Spear Copter would serve as a GREAT counter balance to this issue. So, what do you all think?

 

[Deleted member]

No items? Only omegas?
Take the fun out of it, why don'tcha?

Meh, a lot of the items make for cheap comebacks...

Spoiler

 

[NintenZ]

On second thought, how about this?

No customs, random Omegas, no items, four stock, five minutes, how does that sound?

Fixed?

 

[MarioMeteor]

I'm not sure about Bandana Dee being heavier than Kirby, Ness has a cap and a backpack and he is not heavier than Lucas.

His head probably weighs about 3 tons by itself.

I made the Tourney

The Tourney ID is

63483933917774

The Password is DeeLC


It needs to be done EXACTLY LIKE THAT.

The battles will start in 28 minutes

No Items...mostly skill...

except for no 1 V 1'S >.>

Yaaass, hold up, I-ma comin'!

 

[GhostlyLure]

Did I mess up my English?

Someone said
"I will say that all it takes for me to dislike a character or a character's fanbase is one person. I don't care much for Bandanna Dee ever since I saw that someone "Searches the forums for anything related to Bandanna Dee and will debate with them". My view of Isaac getting in was tainted a bit when I saw an Isaac fan say that Wolf's placement on the ballot "Isn't nearly as much as people think, and it is no-where near Isaac" and ended up comparing him to Daisy. I also don't think much about King K. Rool anymore simply because a lot of his fans are way too cocky about him."

Please DO NOT attack this person they were just talking.


I of course responded in defense of myself as I NEVER said I debated with anybody.

...Indirectly mentioning me XD..please...just say my name it's more embarrassing to yourself to "sub-tweet" me

I said.. and I quote..

"We flock to any where someone insults Bandana Dee..

Every day I look up.
Bandana Dee
Bandanna Dee
Waddle Dee
Bandana Waddle Dee
Goomba with a hat

But I have a feeling Shane does it for attention. I'm not gonna bother."

I never said we go to debate with them...I just go to read what they say and continue on with my day...

So please...don't quote something if it's not true...especially when it's trying to shoot someone else down.

of course of people responded..cause it's the Wolf thread..

"Oh, we apologize to you, your royal highness.

Yes you read what they say and continue on with your day. Like you just did. Oh wait.

I think Bandanna Dee would be a cool character... but I mean if you are a representative of the fanbase then I don't want none of that."


After that...I responded..

"Uhhh..ok I don't know why you think I'm going to let someone indirectly insult me...This actually has nothing to do with Bandana Dee. I said something..no reason for people to spread it around...

Also..to quote @POKEMANSPIKA

"I personally think its kind of stupid to let one person sway your opinion on a character. I mean that one person may just be some random ******* in that huge fanbase full of good people. The bad tends to shine brighter than the good so you have to look into it more to actually find the good fans. Plus, judging a fictional character based on their fans who don't have an influence on said fictional character instead of judging them by their abilities is pretty dumb in my opinion."

I'm not the character I'm a person who supports said character. Don't place your anger on one person towards an entire fanbase let alone a fictional character."

After that person responded

"I didn't say your name because I didn't have it memorized. Nor was I going to search for it either. Wasn't any insult against you, as much as making it easier on my part.

Related to what I said before. If I was going to look up your name and say it, I might as well have quoted you directly. If I were to quote something that was not true, I would've done this:

Not tagging anyone also keeps them anonymous, thus not 'putting anyone down'. If I wanted to put you down I would've said something like "GHOSTLYLURE IS ". But, like I said, I didn't bother. Nonetheless, you have proven my point."

And finally I responded

"lol...I can not eat eggs...they make my stomach hurt >.< anyways...

If you were gonna say anything at least have it be true...you put it in quotes as if it was actually said.

Even if I did say anything (without pointing out it was me) it would've been obvious so I just pointed it out myself..

I'm trying to take this from a non hostile approach..(as best as I can being the type of person I am) but I'm quite sure I disproved your "point"..you said something false..and I pointed out that it wasn't true...Where did I prove your point?" I'm trying to figure out...am I in the wrong...I don't think so.

 

[smileMasky]

His head probably weighs about 3 tons by itself.

Yaaass, hold up, I-ma comin'!

it's got to be the hair Gel alone

 

[MarioMeteor]

SO MANY DOWN AIRS AND UP SMASHES.

 

[NintenZ]

Ok, the new tourney is now live, here's the new ID: 07524805025788

 

[Chandeelure]

Did I mess up my English?

Someone said
"I will say that all it takes for me to dislike a character or a character's fanbase is one person. I don't care much for Bandanna Dee ever since I saw that someone "Searches the forums for anything related to Bandanna Dee and will debate with them". My view of Isaac getting in was tainted a bit when I saw an Isaac fan say that Wolf's placement on the ballot "Isn't nearly as much as people think, and it is no-where near Isaac" and ended up comparing him to Daisy. I also don't think much about King K. Rool anymore simply because a lot of his fans are way too cocky about him."

Please DO NOT attack this person they were just talking.


I of course responded in defense of myself as I NEVER said I debated with anybody.

...Indirectly mentioning me XD..please...just say my name it's more embarrassing to yourself to "sub-tweet" me

I said.. and I quote..

"We flock to any where someone insults Bandana Dee..

Every day I look up.
Bandana Dee
Bandanna Dee
Waddle Dee
Bandana Waddle Dee
Goomba with a hat

But I have a feeling Shane does it for attention. I'm not gonna bother."

I never said we go to debate with them...I just go to read what they say and continue on with my day...

So please...don't quote something if it's not true...especially when it's trying to shoot someone else down.

of course of people responded..cause it's the Wolf thread..

"Oh, we apologize to you, your royal highness.

Yes you read what they say and continue on with your day. Like you just did. Oh wait.

I think Bandanna Dee would be a cool character... but I mean if you are a representative of the fanbase then I don't want none of that."


After that...I responded..

"Uhhh..ok I don't know why you think I'm going to let someone indirectly insult me...This actually has nothing to do with Bandana Dee. I said something..no reason for people to spread it around...

Also..to quote @POKEMANSPIKA

"I personally think its kind of stupid to let one person sway your opinion on a character. I mean that one person may just be some random ******* in that huge fanbase full of good people. The bad tends to shine brighter than the good so you have to look into it more to actually find the good fans. Plus, judging a fictional character based on their fans who don't have an influence on said fictional character instead of judging them by their abilities is pretty dumb in my opinion."

I'm not the character I'm a person who supports said character. Don't place your anger on one person towards an entire fanbase let alone a fictional character."

After that person responded

"I didn't say your name because I didn't have it memorized. Nor was I going to search for it either. Wasn't any insult against you, as much as making it easier on my part.

Related to what I said before. If I was going to look up your name and say it, I might as well have quoted you directly. If I were to quote something that was not true, I would've done this:

Not tagging anyone also keeps them anonymous, thus not 'putting anyone down'. If I wanted to put you down I would've said something like "GHOSTLYLURE IS ". But, like I said, I didn't bother. Nonetheless, you have proven my point."

And finally I responded

"lol...I can not eat eggs...they make my stomach hurt >.< anyways...

If you were gonna say anything at least have it be true...you put it in quotes as if it was actually said.

Even if I did say anything (without pointing out it was me) it would've been obvious so I just pointed it out myself..

I'm trying to take this from a non hostile approach..(as best as I can being the type of person I am) but I'm quite sure I disproved your "point"..you said something false..and I pointed out that it wasn't true...Where did I prove your point?" I'm trying to figure out...am I in the wrong...I don't think so.

I didn't really understand... something about Bandana Dee and the Wolf thread, again.
Nobody really cares here, except for you, can you ignore them, please?

Also, about that tournament thing, that's not on-topic, you should write only ONE post about it here and then make a private conversation for the interested people instead of writing 2 pages in a character thread.

 

[GhostlyLure]

I didn't really understand... something about Bandana Dee and the Wolf thread, again.
Nobody really cares here, except for you, can you ignore them, please?

Also, about that tournament thing, that's not on-topic, you should write only ONE post about it here and then make a private conversation for the interested people instead of writing 2 pages in a character thread.

You really didn't understand

but of course no one would care it's just about me.

Bottom line is...Someone twisted and turned what I said to make it seems like I go out of the way to attack people.

I'm gonna be gone for a while again...I need some time to myself..

 

[Yoshister]

Ok, the new tourney is now live, here's the new ID: 07524805025788

Where is everyone?

 

[MarioMeteor]

I didn't really understand... something about Bandana Dee and the Wolf thread, again.
Nobody really cares here, except for you, can you ignore them, please?

Also, about that tournament thing, that's not on-topic, you should write only ONE post about it here and then make a private conversation for the interested people instead of writing 2 pages in a character thread.

Damn, Chandy. You're blunt.

 

[Chandeelure]

Hey @ Tortilla Noggin , my plan worked XD
I convinced one of the super popular users in Miiverse to make a Bandana Dee drawing.

Spoiler

I'm Chan, that weird T-Rex Mii thing.
I wrote this in one of his old drawings.

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/mariosonicrules/posts

Damn, Chandy. You're blunt.

I didn't make the rules.

 

[Deleted member]

Chrom-Joel FTW!
EDIT: This is my last post about the tourney.

 

[Tortilla Noggin]

Hey @ Tortilla Noggin , my plan worked XD
I convinced one of the super popular users in Miiverse to make a Bandana Dee drawing.

Spoiler

I'm Chan, that weird T-Rex Mii thing.

View attachment 67421

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/mariosonicrules/posts

Nice work, Chandy.

As I write this, I see that it has 78 comments, and 336 "Yeah!"s. This is good exposure, and something not so easily attainable on Miiverse at the current time due to the recent changes in viewing setups.