Hypernovaguy64
Smash Lord
Well then, I'll help. I've wanted him in for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time. I'll do whatever it takes.Wrong thread, whoops.
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Well then, I'll help. I've wanted him in for a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time. I'll do whatever it takes.Wrong thread, whoops.
It looks awesomeVery well said, my home skillet. We should all take this to heart.
Y'all like my new pic?
You don't have to worry about that from me! I defend characters I don't support. (Although I am a little sour about Captain Toad being popular instead of Toad.)Don't try to detract from other characters, if possible.
I added Manic Rykker's post in the OP, I just copied it because I'm a little busy.Everyone take notes on what @ Manic Rykker is saying. These are exactly the kind of mindset/PR tactics we need to approach.
@ Chandeelure
If you can gradually update the OP to include a "How to Properly Support BWD" section using the analyses we create, connections we make, and observations we learn, that would do a good job in both getting newcomers up to speed as well as keeping our progress a recurrent theme throughout the thread rather than a mere trend.
Like I said, gradually. A copy-paste is good for now, but when you find the time, try to find the words for it so as to make the OP look that much better for it.I added Manic Rykker's post in the OP, I just copied it because I'm a little busy.
I don't know exactly how to write it.
I will also... and obviously XD, add the Twitter account to the OP (when it's ready).
Mind you, we'll need to be tact while we do this, so shooting down shouldn't be our goal so much as deconstructing.If were going to be shooting down (falsly founded) dissenting thoughts, I think a good one to start with would be that Kirby is small and doesn't need a 4th rep. But before I can do that, can someone tell me where the misconception that Kirby is a small franchise comes from (seriously, we have 34 million units sold, what the DeDeDe?)? I would love to know where on Earth that came from.
And with that attitude, all it does is guarantee that. If they don't like BWD simply because of the character, that's one thing, but if there's reasoning to why they don't like BWD, as a support-base we can at least handle their arguments piece-by-piece with objective reasoning. If they see BWD in a better light for it, great. If they have no better opinion despite their argument being peacefully retorted in full, then that no longer becomes our concern. What matters is that we try to spread our support for the Dee in a respectable manner, not antagonize others for not already sharing it.-In my opinion there really isn't a way to change a deetractors opinion they will always only see Bandanna as a Waddle Dee with a bandanna. After all any person who detracts will almost NEVER change there opinion.
You are actually what we have been needing for ever...thank you so much.Like I said, gradually. A copy-paste is good for now, but when you find the time, try to find the words for it so as to make the OP look that much better for it.
Mind you, we'll need to be tact while we do this, so shooting down shouldn't be our goal so much as deconstructing.
As for Kirby being a small franchise, this is literally the first I've heard of someone use it simply because of how unfounded that statement is. Could you possibly paste an example of where you heard this?
Well my friend, the goal isn't necessarily to sway the detractor. If you do, that is all well in good. The real goal, is preventing possible parrots, and keeping people from being swayed against a character by lies.... Those that often repeat information they read, and think are facts (that actually aren't), are never a good thing, and would make things worse.-In my opinion there really isn't a way to change a deetractors opinion they will always only see Bandanna as a Waddle Dee with a bandanna. After all any person who detracts will almost NEVER change there opinion.
-Our characters design is the real thing that holds us back in so many situations...K rool has his history, Shantae has...everything (even though I had no idea who Shantae was until this entire Smash Ballot)..Bandanna Dee has his spear but without it the general populaces sees him only as a "waste of a character slot" and that's something we honestly can't change...It's his character design.
-Yes, I have noticed this thread has became more of a Kirby thread in general (hence why I don't talk as much as I did when we were focused on Bandanna Dee) I really haven't liked it to be completely honest...
-As for propaganda I am making a MUCH more professional Bandanna Dee video that I may need voice actors for actually (This isn't the thing you need to DEE prepared for)I'm just gonna spam you guys with likes
-There is one thing I disagree with to be completely honest I think our some what blindness of knowing Bandanna Dee is sorta unlikely is what keeps us running.. If I were to have believed that I would have never ran into this thread it's what keeps us going and to be completely honest I...love it..this group..thread is the best thing that has happened to me for a long time (I'm not even kidding)
-I feel us as people need to start making more attempts at least at artwork animations things like that spread the word we can't sit here as siting ducks and expect results...
-Family friendly slogan huh.... "Waddle on to Smash!" The best I could think of
-If you really want people to be nice to deetractors we really need set rules:
*Cursing can't be done..it makes us all look bad.
*Don't insult them it makes them more willing to fight back (like when people taunt me on Smash 4 glory :3)
-THE UNNECESSARY MEMES NEED TO STOP
This came really apparent to me when that deetractor came in and said "Is this a joke thread" honestly that was extremely embarrassing to me...that's all I have to say on that matter
-This one is more pointed at me PLEASE for the love of dessus bring up any other characters being unlikely or stupid as you can see from past events it turns us against each other and similar to when the Adeliene thread attack Bandanna Dee could possibly bring other groups over here becoming enemies with even more people (this means no Dark Matter Swordsmen talk for me :T I will be posting him at the end of my post on my computer I love how he sparks up my post)
-I really think it's time for us to get a move on stop sitting here..I really don't know what else to do and I feel that it's about time we focus again.Also summer break is coming for us youngens so we got more time on our hands come on
LETS GET MOVING BANDANNA BRIGADE!!!!
EDIT:I'm reading the post put after your post Chandelure so if I reinstated some things, sorry.
After a reply to someone mentioning this isn't a joke thread, "A very elaborate one. He's a nonsense extremely minor character in a series that isnt as big. Literally every other Nintendo character will be in before this guy does."Mind you, we'll need to be tact while we do this, so shooting down shouldn't be our goal so much as deconstructing.
As for Kirby being a small franchise, this is literally the first I've heard of someone use it simply because of how unfounded that statement is. Could you possibly paste an example of where you heard this?
Hmm I've actually never looked at it that way...you've brought some interesting things into mind.Well my friend, the goal isn't necessarily to sway the detractor. If you do, that is all well in good. The real goal, is preventing possible parrots, and keeping people from being swayed against a character by lies.... Those that often repeat information they read, and think are facts (that actually aren't), are never a good thing, and would make things worse.
In terms of age, Kirby first existed in April 22, 1992, where as Star Fox was never released until sometime 1993. In terms of number of games, the 16 Kirby games from the main-series alone easily beats the 8 Star Fox has cumulatively, assuming we count the SF64 remake and the cancelled Star Fox 2. In terms of reception, Star Fox 64 is the highest with 88 followed by games scoring 82 (Adventures) and 76 (Command). While that technically beats Kirby, the Kirby series has a top set of 86 (Canvas Curse and Epic Yarn) followed by 83, 82, 81, 80, 80, 77, 77... I obviously don't need to get into sales. It overall seems like they were veiling their reason against BWD as something objective when it's clearly not. While there are going to be plenty of detractors like that, simply staying calm and rebutting the way I just did is what saves grace for us.After a reply to someone mentioning this isn't a joke thread, "A very elaborate one. He's a nonsense extremely minor character in a series that isnt as big. Literally every other Nintendo character will be in before this guy does."
Not going to name or quote who said this, they don't need the backlash. Same person was a Wolf supporter, so it seems clear that they thought Star Fox is bigger than Kirby, which is false. I also happen to know a friend who, before I informed him, thought Fire Emblem was larger, so I ended up thinking this might be a common misconception (I may be wrong though (I hope so)).
One last piece of advice that I really hope we don't end up needing, is to not tell the people who don't think Bandana Dee should be in, that they are "haters" and/ or "fervent liars", that is the kind of thing that turns a detractor permanent, and/or into a active hater and no longer someone who just disagrees with us. It makes someone who actively seeks to hamper any of our progress, I know this because, well , I (sadly) hold grudges (I shouldn't but that isn't the point), and this kind of argument turned me away from a character I won't name, from mild dislike to active hate.
I.e. Ridley. To make a long paragraph short, he's saying don't be a Ridley.And yeah, the sooner we can avoid name-calling, the better. The only thing that turns a character someone doesn't like off more is the people who support said character being rude and aggressive.
We should really think about doing good stuff like this, and what we should do to make our support better. we only have almost 4 months until the poll ends, we should make the most of it and get the most votes we can for bandana dee. we should do as much as we can, so if anyone else has any other ideas to spread the word of bandana dee, please share, because at the moment I am out of ideas.Oh by the way.. It wouldn't be all that bad of an idea to kick up a Anti-Detractor wall for this thread.
What that is basically, is a list of various detractions shut down with logical, and effective facts and counter arguments. I helped get one started up in the Shantae thread as an example. Not only do they help keep false information to a minimum, it can also serve as a guide to our fellow supporters and assist them.
To start, think of the usual, common arguments people like to throw against the character. Set up your fact/counter against this, and add it to the wall.
Basically put, you build up the wall even further whenever you encounter a new argument against the character you don't have a counter for. This is why it can be fun and helpful to the campaign to engage these detractors: They can, in an ironic twist, end up helping us organize our defense. As you are always bound to run into a new point from them after you shut down the usual generic counters they usually throw against a character.
Detractor walls can especially help with characters that get A LOT of unfounded flak, and unnecessary hate. (like Shantae for example)
Un, can we avoid spamming? I don't think we want to come across as the spamfaction of the ballot. Don't get me wrong it's effective at getting attention, it just also grabs a ton of negative attention, since, it's well, you know, spam.Say God Robert's Cousin I made this slogan so I can spam this in every smash bros/kirby video on the youtube comments
"Vote Bandana Dee for smash 4 DEELC https://cp.nintendo.co.jp/us/ why you ask? click on this link here and Mister Chandelure will tell you all in full details http://smashboards.com/threads/band...im-on-smashbros-com-deelc-can-be-real.324430/ remember Bandana Dee he is NOT a "goomba with a bandana" he is his own character that deserve too be in smash 4 please help and support bandana waddle dee #WaddleOn" do you think this will help?
Uhh if we are all trying to improve Bandanna Dee's support list,etc shouldn't it just be hosted here?Rykker, I added you to the convo. You seem to have the right mindset.
I think he mean't the group with leadership roles, IE hosting the twitter page and general planning stuff.Uhh if we are all trying to improve Bandanna Dee's support list,etc shouldn't it just be hosted here?
Boodiful...I think he mean't the group with leadership roles, IE hosting the twitter page and general planning stuff.
(Nice, Dark Matter's cool no?)
Let's not spam, please. That's a good way to get hate if we look petty by talking at people rather than to them. Good intentions, bad execution.Say God Robert's Cousin I made this slogan so I can spam this in every smash bros/kirby video on the youtube comments
"Vote Bandana Dee for smash 4 DEELC https://cp.nintendo.co.jp/us/ why you ask? click on this link here and Mister Chandelure will tell you all in full details http://smashboards.com/threads/band...im-on-smashbros-com-deelc-can-be-real.324430/ remember Bandana Dee he is NOT a "goomba with a bandana" he is his own character that deserve too be in smash 4 please help and support bandana waddle dee #WaddleOn" do you think this will help?
Actually, a little propaganda video of "Why YOU Should Enlist In #WaddleOn!" would be a very nice side for our campaign. With good writing and fitting humor, it could really win us over some people.Dang you guys have been busy.
I have experience as a musician and a flash animator and a voice actor.
If there is anything I can do to help raise awareness for BWD pretty please let me know, alright?
This never happend. I have been around saying that I'm not interested in the Dee because I was interested in the general discussions about Kirby, but that's not attacking the thread. Also me stating an opinion =/= the Adeleine thread.-This one is more pointed at me PLEASE for the love of dessus bring up any other characters being unlikely or stupid as you can see from past events it turns us against each other and similar to when the Adeliene thread attack Bandanna Dee could possibly bring other groups over here becoming enemies with even more people (this means no Dark Matter Swordsmen talk for me :T I will be posting him at the end of my post on my computer I love how he sparks up my post)
Sorry I'll edit that...Could of worded it better.This never happend. I have been around saying that I'm not interested in the Dee because I was interested in the general discussions about Kirby, but that's not attacking the thread. Also me stating an opinion =/= the Adeleine thread.
If you're refering to what happend time ago, where a couple of users posted some comments saying bad things to Bandana Dee in the Adeleine thread, well that's not because of me, and I stopped the thing as soon as I had the possibility to. Also, a couple of days ago, an identical thing happend in the Bandana Dee thread against Adeleine.
I know it was just an example, but please, try to not spread fake images of what an Adeleine supporter is; the situation is already very bad for us with the disaster of Gamefaqs and the overall hate for the character around the web, more hate is not needed.
Oh yes tell me that was intentional.I admit we'd be aping the K. Rool fans but it's certainly not a bad idea.
Yeah, this. No need to go slinging mud at other support threads, especially when their own members are actively involved in this same community.If you're refering to what happend time ago, where a couple of users posted some comments saying bad things to Bandana Dee in the Adeleine thread, well that's not because of me, and I stopped the thing as soon as I had the possibility to. Also, a couple of days ago, an identical thing happend in the Bandana Dee thread against Adeleine.
I know it was just an example, but please, try to not spread fake images of what an Adeleine supporter is; the situation is already very bad for us with the disaster of Gamefaqs and the overall hate for the character around the web, more hate is not needed.
Alright I will be busy until about 5:30 EST when you're available I need a sample of some of your work If you don't mind. Thank You.Dang you guys have been busy.
I have experience as a musician and a flash animator and a voice actor.
If there is anything I can do to help raise awareness for BWD pretty please let me know, alright?
I'll give it a try, but don't expect it to look very good, as I'm pretty much the opposite of talented at this kind of stuff.It might be a little late, but I can come up with propaganda ideas like making a fire emblem weapon triangle and replace sword with Meta Knight, axe with King Dedede, and the spear with Bandana Dee. The slogan on the bottom could be "Complete the Triangle! Bandana Dee for DeeLC!!! The problem is that I suck at paint.net/photoshop so someone else would have to make it.
I'm terrible at this. (posts an image of perfection.) See?I'll give it a try, but don't expect it to look very good, as I'm pretty much the opposite of talented at this kind of stuff.
I'll try to make it as clean as possible though, but given my track record, I won't make any promises about how it will look.
Example of how bad my stuff is.
It might be a little late, but I can come up with propaganda ideas like making a fire emblem weapon triangle and replace sword with Meta Knight, axe with King Dedede, and the spear with Bandana Dee. The slogan on the bottom could be "Complete the Triangle! Bandana Dee for DeeLC!!! The problem is that I suck at paint.net/photoshop so someone else would have to make it.
I already made this:I'll give it a try, but don't expect it to look very good, as I'm pretty much the opposite of talented at this kind of stuff.
I'll try to make it as clean as possible though, but given my track record, I won't make any promises about how it will look.
Example of how bad my stuff is.
Lol, the Kirby MCs (but Kirby himself) have the weapon triangule lol xDI already made this:
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I didn't change the head of the FE characters with Kirby characters or something like that, so, you guys can do other forms of the same message if you want.
Also, here is the Twitter account, please follow and retweet the posts, etc: https://twitter.com/BandanaDeeSm4sh
It's also in the OP.
It's a weapon triangle :3 (Looks at Kirby) KIRBY YOU MESSED EVERYTHING UP!!!!!!!!!!!!Lol, the Kirby MCs (but Kirby himself) have the weapon triangule lol xD