B-Sticking

[Masonomace]

Sup Lucario Boards, im sorta new, if not none. im still shy to post in these boards, and im not that great of a aura player, but i'd like to address info that i've found experimenting with Lucario B-sticking (if not already done or said about them):

1. i've come to find that B-sticking helps all of Lucario's Specials in more than one way. to start off, B-sticking FPs on ground gives you more granted distance than regular FPs.

2. using FPs off edge for gimping is amazing. u can string off Fairs like crazy, and finish with a B-stick FP. this not only knocks them back possibly for a KO, but also launches you back for recovery, same for Aura spheres.

3. due to #1. the FPs on ground allow u to use less running and allowing more FP CG/strings to be pulled off thus racking even more damage. this being done is far more easier to pull off now to heavy-middle characters.

4. the B-sticking FPs in air allow u pushed back to stages with walls or FD lip to ease Wall clinging/jumping, but B-stick DTs dont do anything <_<

5. for me, extreme-edging (thats what i call it) with B-stick is alot easier to pull off stealin the edge without SDs... and pulling off extreme-stops are easier which can be used to avoid extremespeeding into a smash or falcon punch...

and 6. this might of all been known, i might upload a video to help explain all this of what im discussing ((((((((((((((((((((((( ty and comment..

 

[Dark 3nergy]

only prob with b sticking is trying to DI with c-stick

....o.o force palm for gimping thats news to me.....

phil posted a video you should prolly see;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOv-c9TC0h0
happens at 1:12

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttFI0mtLGXQ

so you cant really cg with FP, not with proper mashing and DI

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Force Palm's startup lag seems a bit much to realistically gimp someone after a Fair string. I like B-Reversaled Force Palms as a retreat but honestly if I'm B-reversing anything its an Aura Sphere. Everything else you said seems solid but I already knew all of this (pretty sure actual Lucario mains know this too)

 

[Steam]

well you also lose a lot of your ability to space aerials, or studderstep fsmash (without C-stick set to smash). plus we can do all of this without the B-stick, it's just harder.

 

[Dark 3nergy]

you mean wave bouncing steam?

 

[Steam]

we can studder step FP, we can use FP for gimping if we want. and ES has enough start up we should never need to B-stick it.

 

[Masonomace]

v_v alright then

 

[Kitamerby]

You also can't ExtremeShift with the B-stick iirc.

 

[MythTrainerInfinity]

Couldn't you set the D-Pad to Smashes for SDI if you B-Stick?

 

[Masonomace]

Couldn't you set the D-Pad to Smashes for SDI if you B-Stick?

errr, u can set the D-pads to attack, and with control stick, u can smash, but....ims

 

[culexus・wau]

You can stutter step w/out the fsmash, but losing aerial control isn't good.

Attack stick is worth looking too more then B-sticking imo, extra nair controll tooo good.