AzOne twO Step: Brawl Tournament June 14-15

[KosukeKGA]

Sorry, but no snake players will be coming from NM. We don't believe in Snake.

Then you won't win this tournament unless you play Meta Knight (which apparently you do I'm assuming). You know how to play this game.

To everyone: Enjoy fighting your cluster**** of Snakes and Meta Knights!

 

[EoW]

Just curious, why'd the venue fee go up 5 dollars from what it used to be?

Like it says in the post all extra money made from venue cost will be put into random prizes. It went up to 10 dollars for 2 reasons

1.) They decided to charge me 800 for both days + a insurance fee.

2.) gives people more insentive to bring a wii or t.v.

but yeah all the excess money will go to 4th and 5th place prizes and random other little event prizes such as the melee tourney.

Finally: it says in the post all the same stuff i posted above please read that before randomly assuming im "pulling a mana cloud" he made like 8k rofl, me charge 10 bucks insted of 5 is nothing. Also mana clouds tourney was 75 dollars to enter..... please make more sense.

Also i lowerd the teams entry from 30 to 25 when i increased the venue fee so there was no change in the cost. But of course nobody noticed that. Just bring a wii and t.v. and you wont have to worrie about it

 

[Tee ay eye]

Like it says in the post all extra money made from venue cost will be put into random prizes. It went up to 10 dollars for 2 reasons

1.) They decided to charge me 800 for both days + a insurance fee.

2.) gives people more insentive to bring a wii or t.v.

but yeah all the excess money will go to 4th and 5th place prizes and random other little event prizes such as the melee tourney.

Finally: it says in the post all the same stuff i posted above please read that before randomly assuming im "pulling a mana cloud" he made like 8k rofl, me charge 10 bucks insted of 5 is nothing. Also mana clouds tourney was 75 dollars to enter..... please make more sense.

Also i lowerd the teams entry from 30 to 25 when i increased the venue fee so there was no change in the cost. But of course nobody noticed that. Just bring a wii and t.v. and you wont have to worrie about it

Lol, I was just joking around with the Manacloud thing.

 

[AltF4]

Lol, I was just joking around with the Manacloud thing.

Hey. Manaclouding is a serious allegation. One does not lightly accuse others of Manaclouding.

 

[KosukeKGA]

What exactly did Ken's brother go and do? And at what tournament?

 

[maXXXpower]

The greatest robbery in Smash history was undertaken by Manacloud, AKA Manaclue, AKA Bananaclown at OC3. Something like 2000 dollars went unaccounted for (meaning it didn't go in the prize money) and they pinned it on van rentals and venue fees.

Except there were only like 3 vans and a crappy crowded warehouse for two days. The place wasn't even safe; there were signs warning people about ammonia poisoning all over.

But I got to meet PC Chris.

 

[Alphabravo]

The greatest robbery in Smash history was undertaken by Manacloud, AKA Manaclue, AKA Bananaclown at OC3. Something like 2000 dollars went unaccounted for (meaning it didn't go in the prize money) and they pinned it on van rentals and venue fees.

Except there were only like 3 vans and a crappy crowded warehouse for two days. The place wasn't even safe; there were signs warning people about ammonia poisoning all over.

But I got to meet PC Chris.

That sounds terrible. I'm actually glad I didn't go to OC3 now.

 

[KosukeKGA]

Yeah, I forgot last time you told me, G-mo, lol

 

[maXXXpower]

I don't think you don't understand. I got to meet PC Chris.

PC Chris.

I touched him.

 

[KosukeKGA]

Double negatives? Oh ****.

...

...The PC touch must've been great.

 

[maXXXpower]

...The PC touch must've been great.

And that, gentlemen, is how the universe began.

 

[Tee ay eye]

hay lol hur hur the chairs cost us fifty dollars each and we paid a thousand dollars for our ****ty *** ammonia-filled venue.

 

[Morty]

no prob, I guess I'm just trying to be the best snake i can be, and mirror matches factor heavily in my confidence... after all, two good players with the same character have no character advantage and it just turns into mind games.

I think one great example as to why this isn't necessarily a good way of deciding who is actually better would be an Ice-Climbers vs. Ice-Climbers match up. Try it, it's silly.

 

[KosukeKGA]

Morty, explain your reasoning. The better player always wins.

 

[Kashakunaki]

I disagree. I think the better player usually wins.

It's a matter of counter picking. That's why it exists and is called what it is. Counter picking in order to give you an advantage over your opponent. Not only that but flukes do exist.

Oh, and Snake is balls. Screw Snake.

 

[Tee ay eye]

Person A 2-0's Person B
Person B 2-0's Person C
Person C 2-0's Person A

Who is the best?

 

[KosukeKGA]

What I mean is, being the better player means playing better than the other person at the time of the match/set. <.<

 

[Tee ay eye]

What if your style counters theirs?

 

[KosukeKGA]

The. Better. Player. Always. Wins.

Skill always beats little technicalities.

 

[Statistics]

I think one great example as to why this isn't necessarily a good way of deciding who is actually better would be an Ice-Climbers vs. Ice-Climbers match up. Try it, it's silly.

Well, that would certainly be an extreme example

What if your style counters theirs?

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that if both players are good enough then "style" is somewhat of a misnomer, as it adjusts to meet the challenge of the other player. A Falco who tries over and over again to outcamp an Olimar will lose, so he must adjust his "style". When two Snakes (or any matching characters) meet, however, the "styles" all but disappear because of their constant variance. Specifically, if one Snake tries to camp, then the other will approach, and vice versa. Eventually, they'll both start playing in a 'universal' manner, and the entire game hinges on mind games.

Mastery of mind games is important to me because it transfers between characters, and because at the end of the day a good deceiver can sometimes win the un-winnable matchups (like, say Ike Vs. Pit, I'm Ike)

 

[Tee ay eye]

The. Better. Player. Always. Wins.

Skill always beats little technicalities.

Which is why Sean got 4-stocked by Tope once, right?

 

[Kashakunaki]

Let me put it this way...

What's stronger? A finger nail or a tooth?

 

[KosukeKGA]

Which is why Sean got 4-stocked by Tope once, right?

Tope played better than Sean, then. How else do you want me to put it?

 

[Tee ay eye]

That's exactly how I want you to put it. It doesn't mean that Tope is THE BETTER PLAYER.

 

[KosukeKGA]

In that match, he apparently was the better player by playing better,

 

[Duff0]

Yea but using that logic, how would we know who's better right now, if they can't play right now?

 

[Kashakunaki]

For starters I think you just contradicted yourself and nextly I think tee hit it on the bullseye.

In that match he played better, it doesn't mean that the better player won.

 

[KosukeKGA]

When I say the better player always wins, I mean in the context of that match.

 

[In2D]

What if someone was to get hit with 3 9-hammers from a Game and Watch and lose, does that mean that the Game and watch player is better and more skilled?

 

[KosukeKGA]

The opposing player should have an understanding that a G&W is capable of doing that and should take it into consideration. Plus, if he got hit by all of them, he probably sucks anyway, rofl

In other words, yes.

 

[In2D]

I was trying to imply an incredibly lucky situation and you try and turn it around by saying that the other person just sucks?

So you are saying back at goops a while ago, when I hit you with that 9 hammer when you were in the middle of a phantom fox that you just sucked?

yeah see! I can turn things around too.

 

[KosukeKGA]

I could've canceled that Fox Phantasm and grabbed the platform. I remember that replay.

 

[Tee ay eye]

The opposing player should have an understanding that a G&W is capable of doing that and should take it into consideration. Plus, if he got hit by all of them, he probably sucks anyway, rofl

In other words, yes.

Peach pulls eight stitchfaces and three bomb-ombs in a row.

 

[KosukeKGA]

Peach pulls eight stitchfaces and three bomb-ombs in a row.

And then what? :]

 

[In2D]

Hits you with every single one of them!

 

[Tee ay eye]

Yeah, if you're only SLIGHTLY better than them, you're bound to get hit by one/some of them.

 

[KosukeKGA]

I fold.

 

[Tee ay eye]

 

[Thanatos180]

This is spiraling downward very, very face if not just because Kosuke is so full of himself to admit that he's wrong.

Edit: This is Kashakunaki

 

[In2D]

True Strike! Whats very very face though?