Greward
Smash Lord
u guys know that its true
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ayoub is the best pit in the world
- Thread starter Greward
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-Joannett88-
Smash Apprentice
Of course he's dabess cause he use side b and when you're having a faking epileptic atack he throws his wii mote to you and you just got pited
Ayoub
Smash Ace
Maybe they do know about canceling xD
Gadiel_VaStar
Smash Champion
Who is Ayoub?
& what the heck is arrow canceling?
& what the heck is arrow canceling?
Apollo$
Smash Ace
Ayoub da bess
Nikenick
Smash Journeyman
You mean you guys have never heard of arrow canceling? >_>
Ayoub
Smash Ace
Yeah, our matches were so cool.
Greward
Smash Lord
ayoub can shoot 2 arrows in 1 frame
Lol, american Pits really dont know about this.
(I always say cancling, since my english sucks, lmao)
It´s like Pits most important technic to be played at high level.
Ayoub once took a match of Gluttony (yeah, that guy who beat Ally), by hitting him twice with arrow canceling in one match.
Lord Chair
Smash Master
Wait, what?
Lol no wonder American Pits don't place nearly as well as Ayoub does. At high level competitive play, knowing how to AC (Arrow Cancel) is nothing short of being MANDATORY. Frame advantage on shield is kind of broken in this game, if people still fail to realize that after 2 full years of this game being released, I think I can safely surmise that these boards are absolutely, 100% worthless.
I'm pretty sure Ayoub ALONE could forward your metagame as much as you've been COLLECTIVELY been able to do since Brawl's release. Can't blame him if he doesn't care about you guys though. After all, what have you ever done to him except for bashing him because he's European?
Good luck with your abominable metgame.
Kind regards,
Chair
Lol no wonder American Pits don't place nearly as well as Ayoub does. At high level competitive play, knowing how to AC (Arrow Cancel) is nothing short of being MANDATORY. Frame advantage on shield is kind of broken in this game, if people still fail to realize that after 2 full years of this game being released, I think I can safely surmise that these boards are absolutely, 100% worthless.
I'm pretty sure Ayoub ALONE could forward your metagame as much as you've been COLLECTIVELY been able to do since Brawl's release. Can't blame him if he doesn't care about you guys though. After all, what have you ever done to him except for bashing him because he's European?
Good luck with your abominable metgame.
Kind regards,
Chair
Ayoub
Smash Ace
Who needs arrowloop when you can arrowcancel.
O, and my arrowloop > yours. B)
Greward - Thats called shorthop double arrow.
Lord Chair
Smash Master
Yeah arrow delaying only works if you cancel your landing frames.
dualseeker
Smash Ace
Then can you tell us how to Arrow Cancel? If it gives us a frame advantage, it could help us stay faster in games. Sounds like a really good AT, though.
Ayoub
Smash Ace
I'm making a video about it, coming soon.
dualseeker
Smash Ace
Can't wait ^__^. It'll be good to learn a new trick.
How is it done, though?
How is it done, though?
Dude, I'm able to ArrowLock my opponents, jealous?
Nah my Arrow Loops are better!!!
Ayoub
Smash Ace
You only stole that from the 3-stock replay against you I send to you so you could learn from your mistakes, wich is your whole game and usage of Pit.
Ich liebe dich.
You may have mixed me up with another "golden Pit" from Europe *cough*, hahaha.
Ik hou van je
Btw. when does this Thread get closed?
Greward
Smash Lord
m2k has a thread only for him. ayoub is better than him so i dont know why we should close this
Ayoub
Smash Ace
^ I agree with this.
Judo777
Smash Master
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Oh you mean the thread that's locked that one?
Does Masashi Arrow Cancel? Cause hes good with pit and if he doesn't i suppose its not mandatory.
Nitrix
Smash Ace
Good job Ayoub! Cant wait for the video @_@
Ayoub
Smash Ace
My last match on youtube was 6 months old. D:
Katana_koden
Smash Ace
I don't take this thread seriously. =\
-Jumpman-
Smash Champion
After playing Ayoub yesterday I can see how he has improved the last couple of months. In december last year we were close (I main MK, 4th on Dutch PR) and he beat me 60% of the time. Now he 2 stocks me, the arrow cancel really improved the Pit metagame, shield pressure is amazing.
Sovereign
Game Reaper
I like how you guys mention Arrow Canceling a million times but no one is going to mention what it looks like or how you do it. Until I see a video, I'm in doubt of this tech, that only Link and Toon Link can do.
-Jumpman-
Smash Champion
You shoudl ask ayoub on how to do it, I'm sure it's not done like TL. He told me you have to buffer the second one and shoot immediately so it won't lag. That's all I know.
Katana_koden
Smash Ace
Q
That doesn't even sound like a cancel...
dualseeker
Smash Ace
We have asked Ayoub on how to do it, but he hasn't even posted how to do this AT on the thread. I'm also starting to doubt this AT. If you know how to do it, then at least give an explanation on it.
dskank
Smash Journeyman
lol
wanna hear funny joke..?
Europe!!! roflroflroflroflroflroflroflroflroflroflroflroflrofl
USA da besss!!!
Judo777
Smash Master
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And you expect us to have watched all ur youtube matches? I wouldnt mind hearing how this AT works if it exists but its not gonna effect me in the end i play sheik. But also you should just tell them already cause the only thing ur doing is making everyone not believe you.
Kool Aid
Smash Journeyman
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ayoub
Smash Ace
What are you talking about 'expect us to have watched all ur youtube matches", I just said my last match was 6 months old... I'm glad you didn't watch them, lulz. And why are you here if you play sheik, x). O, I really care if one believes me or not.
Lol dskank, I bet you wouldn't even come close beating one of Europe's top players. O, I think you'd have a hard time beating randoms aswell, rofl. Same goes for you koolaid, except for the 2nd part. Even tho ily.
Lord Chair
Smash Master
Alright then, I think most of us figured you guys knew how to do this already. Timing is a bit strict, and you may consider the whole thing situational, but with decent stage control you don't have to commit to any risks: First, you MUST do a move which includes IASA frames (like dash attack, or ftilt), and you MUST make use of those IASA frame (which isn't hard, even walking means you're canceling your animation). You'll use these IASA frames to carry over on your arrows. Now comes the tricky part, buffer both the charging of an arrow AND the release of it in the 5 frame jumpsquat of a short hop, and buffer during the shooting of that arrow BOTH the charge AND the release of ANOTHER arrow. If done correctly, the amount of IASA frames you've subtracted from the move which included them will be subtracted of your arrow shooting animation, and you'll land with STANDARD landing lag (2 frames). Don't fastfall or you completely mess up the whole process. Also keep in mind that even though you're buffering everything, you cannot make use of the full 10 frame buffer window since your jumpsquat is half of that, so you should be ready for multiple inputs in a VERY small time window. Of course this is all very hard to do. If you spend at least 20 hours of focused practice in it you should be able to pull it off every once in a while, if you want to do it consistently make sure you practice a lot though that's very important. Oh if you arrow delay/arrow cancel (it's the same thing really) from the ledge on the right side of Yoshi's, you'll also extend your invincibility frames there.
Katana_koden
Smash Ace
**** now I'm getting curious...
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