Got my role pm and also can show my notes.
@Kuzi: I was about to say haha. It will be interesting.
@Ryker: Yuppers. I am still in DGames but just reading things now a days but waiting for the AGames cuz I can do those since I said I would.
[collapse=9/16/11]I like Kuzi/Soupa, pretty town at the moment and I am like 78% confident in that. However I am in utter shock when I see that they have fought pretty emotionally in thread which could be fabricated but I don't think Soupa is at the level to fake it that well but with a partner like Kuzi, who the hell knows ya know what I mean? Well I have them as town at the current time so yay. (For the record, agree with Kuzi. That "gambit" was lawlzy.)
Asdioh is another one I wanna say is town at the current time but it's not AS confident. I like him as town though and I don't really see him as scum at the current time. He is being pretty open about things and being an individual instead of a sheepy sheep. So I am confident with him.
Fynal from what I can remember is making me wanna have him as town but hmmmmmmmmmm something's odd but still so he is like leaning town. Same with Armor however I usually wanna mark Armor as obvtown but he is different from what I remember but there is nothing really memorable from either slot to make me wanna mark either as town or scum.
July my dear is perplexing but what else is new? I wanna say town because I am usually mesmerized by her in games but she is an odd one, I wanna have her as a null because I was reading her reads post and I did not get her at all. However, I did not get why she left out TTK when she was posting tells. To me, that's a little slip of neither of them being scum with one another because July is very analytical and would make sure to mention both or the other only scum-buddy in her game if she was scum. She could still be scum and so could TTK but together, me thinks not. Overall null, wanna say with some more town points then scum-points. Subject to change.
TTK on the other hand I have not liked really and his posts do not come off as real to me. He kind of just seems to be joking around not doing much of anything at all. I don't really get any stances from him but that could be just because he is new. However, just meeeh I need something real from for me to get a better read but at the moment, I like him as scum.
Kantrip, seems really towny at the current time with things going along. I like him and he can live. Idk what to say but his posts just come off as really towny and I like how he has been gauging people for reactions. He is still new to mafia it seems but I like what he is doing.
FM, ....I forgot about him a bit because he is such a background poster. Again, similar problem with TTK. May just because I have never played with him before or anything and he is new I think, but I think he is scummy a bit. Other people are coming across much more townier and he is just sitting in the nulls with more scum-points then town points. I haven't seen much of anything that makes me wanna change my mind on this notion yet.
Gova, lurker as ever but leaning more towards a scummy lurker Gova than a towny Gova. He isn't really providing much content from him and actually just literally sailing along. However, I think some of the players just don't know how to play with Gova that much and is not asking him the correct questions to gauge a good response out of him but because of my other reads, I have to sadly put him in the lower section of my nulls.
RF is just a non-presence and not at all sad to see that slot go for a D1 lynch. Nothing good from them and nothing really to lose from their lynch besides like ALOT of info but meh, win some, lose some.
Town: Kuzi/Soupa/Asdioh/Kantrip
Null-Leaning town: July/Fynal/Armor
Null-leaning scum: RF/FM/Gova/TTK
Those are in chronological order so far and I am pleased with them at the moment. No strong scum-reads but I am comfortable with that for what I saw. July is maybe looking like a town PR, same with Fynal or Armor and they don't know how to play with it. Gova could be and that's why he is super-duper lurking hard but I just don't know. RF needs to start posting or get out.[/collapse]
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If this was anyone but Asdioh, I would probably call that a scum-slip. I wonder though, uhm no views have really changed. Except the fact that if RF does flip town, Kuzi should be looked into more because of the way he is pushing this uber hard when he really doesn't have to and it could just be a way to make himself look town enough to where even if RF does flip town, he has a backdoor ready to jump out of.
However, I do like the questions he has been asking so I'm fine with him as town. Though I think it's good to have a little paranoia around a slot sometimes because it re-enforces some thoughts sometimes.
Btw, my view on whether RF will flip scum is a literal coin toss. If they flip scum, lucky shot. If they flip town, uh oh well. IMO I would rather be pushing TTK for his scumminess but that may be n00biness I am mistaking it for.
If TTK is scum, I like Armor as scum for this post.
Connection? The way he backs out of giving a real answer on TTK when he does have posts is odd and his Gova read is meh. I could see Armor being one of TTK's/Gova's scum-buddies from this post. Which kind of lines up with a thingy or two I think.
But yeah, I don't think Kuzi (if he is town) is going up the right track with this RF thing and should be more focused on what else is going on instead of trying to prove that he can get RF lynched. *shruggers* See that's the main thing that's bugging me, I like having Kuzi as town but his push on RF is really nasty when looked into retrospectally. Simply put, it's tunneling to it's highest degree on a slot that has nothing substantial really to push. And that seems to be the main reason he is pushing them is because of a lack of explanation for things. The town is comprised of newer players or players that are more carefree in their styles so that Kuzi can just gets who he wants as his lynch choice and it'll most likely happen.
Speaking of scum-reads,
This post made me like FM more. Like I am looking at it more analytically and I am trying to figure it out what I did like about it. The thing I am seeing that I like is that it is very independant to think the way he is and I don't see scumFM doing a post like this. He doesn't matter about having his own opinion on things and I like what he asked July because looking back, it's true what he says.
So this is how it's looking like for me after more thinking even though the game is pretty slow atm.
Town: Kuzi/Soupa/Kantrip/Asdioh
Null-leaning town: July/Fynal/FM/Gova(eeeh kay lol =p)
Null-leaning scum: TTK/Armor
Useless: RF *own category for just utter nothing really*
I kind of wanna move Asdioh lower with the null-leaning town reads for the moment but over those other players he seems more towny. They are in order atm. Though July-Fynal are interchangable. Armor is new because I like him as TTK's buddy and I don't like a few of his answers as of late. Gova could be scum but he's hard to read. If Kantrip is scum, I'd be throughly pleased with his play at the current time because I don't see anything THAT scummy from him. Almost as comfy with him as Kuzi/Soupa. (Soupa could still be scum but lol, I kind of give him a pass for a lot of scummy stuff because it's him. Scum-tells = Town-tells = whaaaaaat? xD)
*just re-read pg 10-11*
Uhm, scratch that Katnip thing, have him as my strongest town-read atm above Kuzi-Soupa. Duder's playing more towny and I am still about equal on the towniness of July/Fynal.[/collapse]
[collapse=9/22/11]Like now I am ready to do this because it would need to have been done by the time I was in the game. However I like how it seems the town is agreeing with my train of thought (TTK/Armor) and the more I think of it, the more I like it.
Vote: thethirdkoopa
FoS: Armor
If I was in the game at this moment, that's what I would want at the moment. Ryker's gambit was pretty....well I don't necessarily it was that good. It was more of a flail attempt to have him try to look more town and try and reaffirm one of his waffering reads (FM) to a better side.
Soupa is being silly but what else is new? Like what is this half-fast attempt to attack Kuzi when it's (from my PoV) seeming like he doesn't have anything to back up that claim at all. Kantrip has a better case on Kuzi which is actually legit it seems.
Btw, did I mention that because of said gambit, I do like Ryker as my third scum-pick with the current team I have but at the same time I don't like him there because his play is just bad this game. I don't know whether that is indicitive of him being scum or just really misguided town. I wouldn't mind seeing him lynched this game just to be rid of his slot.
His suspicion on Kuzi and Asdioh are just unsubstantiated but I like that he is on TTK but it is hap-hazard. TTK has every right to call Ryker out on that because it's just a statement with no evidence.
I still like Kuzi, but his interaction with Ryker was bad but whenever those two interact when they aren't like lovey dovey with one another (in a bromance way) it's usually bad. *shrug* Like Kantrip a lot more but I already bumped him up to pretty strong town. I like Asdioh more and Ryker's attempt to try and vote him was no me gusta. July's last spur of posts come across as null to me and I don't really get much of anything from her but enough from her if that makes any sense which is odd. Fynal is....hmmm I could actually see him be scum IMO. But thing is it's odd. I need to do my reads list to help collect some thoughts.
This is in order from town-scummy in each category.
Town:
(1) Kantrip
(2) Asdioh
(3) Soupa
(4) Kuzi
Null-leaning town:
(5) FM
(6) July
Null overall:
(7) Fynal
(8) Gova
(9) Ryker
Null-leaning scum:
(10) Armor
(11) TTK
TTK/Armor is who I would like to see lynched. Ryker is expendable by all means. Gova needs to do more even though he is a lurker mostly because I am having a hard time reading him. Fynal moved down because his last couple of posts are just interjectory comments and nothing that is like scum-hunting. I liked him earlier so he sits at the top of the nulls. Reason why FM moved more townier then July is because I honestly just can't see him as scum. He is too independent and just so not caring but that's not the right way to put it. It's like he is not really concerned for his life but he is still generating content that is good in my eyes. Soupa moved above Kuzi due to his temper tantrum and Kuzi moved down because his attack on Ryker is odd however I still like him as town but just like 64% now. He just is not THAT towny as opposed to the other three. Asdioh/Kantrip, both, I would have a hard time seeing as scum like at all.
But yeah, TTK/Armor are my scum-picks and that is all that really matter in the end. If Ryker is lynched, no real loss to town unless he's a PR. Sorry, no links because these are just generic feels and vibes based off the posts I have read in the past couple of pages. (13-15 of 40ppp)[/collapse]
Yeah, the last bit of notes are a little outdated but nothing much of anything has happened really in the past 4-5 days since I last did an intensive read-through of posts. I really hope this is enough for now. Uhm, I would absolutely love a TTK lynch but the time is so limited. Lemme re-evalute that last few posts to see if it changes any reads around a bit. If I remember, I like Ryker a bit more, and July a lot less.