Attempting to get Smashboards server running on shoddy

[ss118]

However, I'm running into some trouble as I have the port address but no Host name. Probably need to host it directly into smashboards.com but w/e. any helpful advice would be .... well, helpful!

anyway, also discuss some things you would want to go down on this server since I can implement stuff on ladder and such. I was thinking an OU ladder, Uber, UU, and possibly mono-type, along with a "suspect" ladder(in which every suspect in the OU metagame will be unbanned).

 

[zrky]

Not fully evolved ladder? That would be so cool

That is if this works....

 

[Circa]

Not fully evolved ladder? That would be so cool

That is if this works....

Seconded. This would be quite a fun ladder.

Also, that mono-type ladder idea is hella good. I <3 mono-type teams, and I think this could possibly create a brand new metagame if people play in it enough. And that could actually give us completely legitimate StrategyDex entries if so, because then we could create sets specifically made for mono-type ladder play. Maybe? Possibly? Idk, I think it sounds good.

Also, maybe an NU ladder? We'd probably have to create the tier list ourselves (Smogon, as of right now, carries Pokemon like Tangrowth in its NU tier, and that's just not right...), but it could be a fun addition.

Although I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to include so many tier lists right off the bat though. I mean, even on Smogon they seem to have partial shortages at times on the ladders, and their Pokemon community is much larger. I would still include a couple of extra unique ones though (like you are already doing...just not too many), because that would at least give us a reason to play in our own server more often.

 

[drcossack]

However, I'm running into some trouble as I have the port address but no Host name. Probably need to host it directly into smashboards.com but w/e. any helpful advice would be .... well, helpful!

anyway, also discuss some things you would want to go down on this server since I can implement stuff on ladder and such. I was thinking an OU ladder, Uber, UU, and possibly mono-type, along with a "suspect" ladder(in which every suspect in the OU metagame will be unbanned).

I like the idea of mono-type, and definitely include ladders for different tiers. Perhaps a BL ladder, even though there's only 5 Pokemon on it right now. We could use the old BL list if anyone knows what it is though.

 

[Wave⁂]

I would love a monotype ladder, though we might want to ban certain type *cough* STEEL *cough*

 

[Circa]

I would love a monotype ladder, though we might want to ban certain type *cough* STEEL *cough*

Actually, I'm not entirely sure if that's required. We'd probably want to test that before we ban it. I mean...it'll probably still be banned, but it's at least worth seeing if it's ban-worthy before doing so. It's unfair otherwise.

 

[qerson]

I would love a monotype ladder, though we might want to ban certain type *cough* STEEL *cough*

just use a fighting type team or a fire fire would be more effective because of steels lower Sp.Def in comparison to regular Def.

 

[Circa]

just use a fighting type team or a fire fire would be more effective because of steels lower Sp.Def in comparison to regular Def.

But seeing as that is technically the only legitimate counter out there as far as typing goes (and not even that's completely foolproof thanks to Bronzong with Heatproof and Heatran), it would severely hurt the mono-type metagame if that's all that anyone was going through the ladder with. Also, you can't predict what you're going to be facing in the ladder, so using that logic isn't legitimate either.

Like I said, it'll probably be banned. But I still stand by giving it a legitimate testing, because that's only fair.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Is Shedinja banned from monotype tournaments?

 

[c3gill]

people would run fire just to burn steel (intended, lol... I actually like mono-fire, especially after seeing Reapers awesome team....)

and shedinja can be used in mono..... generally someone will kill it, either with SS or SR or something like those... i prefer to burn it

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

people would run fire just to burn steel (intended, lol... I actually like mono-fire, especially after seeing Reapers awesome team....)

and shedinja can be used in mono..... generally someone will kill it, either with SS or SR or something like those... i prefer to burn it

I just found out Bug was weak against rock.

I can't believe they would do something like that since with SR it makes shedinja basically useless...

 

[Cease Tick]

Will Garchomp be banned in standard?

 

[Wave⁂]

A vote (between knowledgeable players) would solve the Garchomp dispute.

 

[drcossack]

I just found out Bug was weak against rock.

I can't believe they would do something like that since with SR it makes shedinja basically useless...

It is? O_o

I did not know that, but even if it wasn't, it wouldn't matter, since Sheddy would die anyway.

Will Garchomp be banned in standard?

A vote (between knowledgeable players) would solve the Garchomp dispute.

While I don't care either way, I say it's better to keep it banned.

 

[c3gill]

A vote (between knowledgeable players) would solve the Garchomp dispute.

Im pretty sure Smogon has that covered already...

and yea, ninjask hates SR as well, 50% is a lot of damage.......

 

[zrky]

For chomp, how bout a max of 25 IVs in all stats?
I don't mean 25 total, but 25 for each individual stat

 

[Wave⁂]

Im pretty sure Smogon has that covered already...

and yea, ninjask hates SR as well, 50% is a lot of damage.......

Smogon isn't SWF.

Who knows, SWF might think differently.

 

[AquaTech]

I'd play on it if you got that server running.

 

[Pink Reaper]

I'd like to see a Stealth Rocks clause personally >_>

Also, I'd like to maybe try a Groudon/Kyogre Nerf Clause. Possibly lowering their base stats to make them more OU friendly so there can be auto-sun/rain users in OU.

Banning mono-steel on a mono-type ladder is kind of pointless. It's no more broken than Mono-Psychic, and it's not hugely unbeatable. Having one pokemon that is immune to fire doesn't change the fact that it's hugely weak to Fire/Fighting/Ground, three of the best and most widespread attacking types in the game. Nor does it change the fact that only a few pokemon that can actually hope to take some Special attacks and of them only Jirachi and Empoleon pose any sort of threat to anything.

I say, if anything ban Mono-Psychic, that ****'s broken as ****, it's not the pokemon's fault that Niiro can't do **** with them.

 

[peregrine monkey]

I think this would be an excellent idea. I also think we should test an SR free metagame, as well as one with Garchomp. I might turn extremely interesting.

 

[Wave⁂]

SR clause would be interesting. Moltres, anyone?

 

[drcossack]

[I say, if anything ban Mono-Psychic, that ****'s broken as ****, it's not the pokemon's fault that Niiro can't do **** with them.

Mono-Psychic's broken? Que? This isn't Gen 1.

 

[Niiro]

I say, if anything ban Mono-Psychic, that ****'s broken as ****, it's not the pokemon's fault that Niiro can't do **** with them.

....
I didn't have items on 1/3 of my pokes, and i forgot some moves on metagross >.>
If you say nojohns, i will cut off ur pink reaper.

Mono-Psychic's broken? Que? This isn't Gen 1.

this is gen 4, and psychic is still the best. duh.

 

[AquaTech]

....
I didn't have items on 1/3 of my pokes, and i forgot some moves on metagross >.>
If you say nojohns, i will cut off ur pink reaper.

this is gen 4, and psychic is still the best. duh.

No johns, sir. Perhaps you should learn how to make a team before deciding what types are good and what types are not good. Kidding.

 

[Circa]

Mono-Psychic's broken? Que? This isn't Gen 1.

They get a few of the best leads, the best spinner, one of the best OU walls, and one of the fastest and most powerful OU special sweepers in the game; along with some of the best trick roomers available if you really wanted to use it. I'm pretty sure no other type has that going for them; not even steel (which psychic also just happens to carry some of their best Pokes as well).

I think Reaps said it. If you ban anything, you ban psychic.

 

[zrky]

water>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all types (even psychic)

don't deny it......neutral hits on allot of stuff if not 2x seriously it can't get much better

 

[Niiro]

water>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all types (even psychic)

don't deny it......neutral hits on allot of stuff if not 2x seriously it can't get much better

....lack of secondary type diversity, many pokes are just bulky walls, all are weak to grass or electric, none resist both. Also no metagross.

 

[Wave⁂]

....lack of secondary type diversity, many pokes are just bulky walls, all are weak to grass or electric, none resist both. Also no metagross.

This.

Water/Ground has x4 Grass weakness
Water/Flying has x4 Electric weakness

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

This.

Water/Ground has x4 Grass weakness
Water/Flying has x4 Electric weakness

I know, it's unfortunate because water pokemon are some of my favorite

 

[Pink Reaper]

Lol at people trying to pretend water is a bad type.

 

[Deleted member]

best type = dark.

 

[Niiro]

Lol at people trying to pretend water is a bad type.

Not a bad type. it is just that the lack of metagross hurts its chances in the official niiro pokemon tier type list Version 1.00

 

[zrky]

....lack of secondary type diversity, many pokes are just bulky walls, all are weak to grass or electric, none resist both. Also no metagross.

2 problems that is all, the 3rd 'problem' is not really a problem....

Lol at people trying to pretend water is a bad type.

thankyou

best type = dark.

I can see where you are coming from *looks at name title and avi color* hmmmmmmmmm

 

[Wave⁂]

Water is kinda meh, if you ask me. The two weaknesses are bad, but unless your opponent knows you're Water, it's decent.

 

[peregrine monkey]

best type = dark.

You sir, have hit the nail on the head.

Absol and Umbreon ftw.

 

[zrky]

so, is this going to be realized or was it just all talk?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Lol at people trying to pretend water is a bad type.

Yay!

Water FTW...

 

[Platypus]

If I may debate said idea, the very concept of a Shoddy Battle Server for Smashboards residents is absolutely and unequivocally gay.

The downside is that few people know about it.

 

[Wave⁂]

If I may debate said idea, the very concept of a Shoddy Battle Server for Smashboards residents is absolutely and unequivocally gay.

The downside is that few people know about it.

It has a few niche uses.
For example, if we were to have a SWF tournement.

 

[ss118]

I'm working it out now, best case scenario we get it in an hour or so