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[_Yes!_]

Why would we drive a long distance to talk about how to make your tournies better, when you can just read what we say here? We can go to tournies run by people we know and trust. Lashing out at us isn't the best idea.

Weaker players can come to real tournies if they want to get better. There's such things as friendlies if they're concerned about money, but (this is directed at "weaker" players) you gotta take your lumps if you want to get better. Most of us did that.

 

[Inui]

I'm not sure how to make it any clearer.

THE TOURNAMENTS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE DOUBLE ELIMINATION ALREADY.

We are more than willing to listen to suggestions from players who are showing up to the events. We are not going to make changes that current players don't want based on the possability of others players coming.

We have put the offer out there for any interested players. It seems a little like the highest level competitive players have very little concern for others.

Maybe the "Smash Community" would be able to expand a little if some of the better players tried to help the weaker ones instead of wanting every event to be catered to them. some of you need to understand that not every kid who plays wants to spend a ton of money to get wiped out in five minutes.

As stated previously the events will be running on Saturdays 4:00 with 60% payout to 1st,2nd and 3rd place.

$5 entry fee

Hope to see some of you there to talk about possible upgrades

HF w/ your super tiny and unsuccessful events, then.

The "ton of money" I suggested is still 50% of what tournament goers normally spend on a tournament.

Why you refuse to add doubles is beyond me. That event is often the reason people go to tournaments.

 

[Dr.Brawl]

It's not like were trying to prevent the "weaker players" from coming. It's just that most tournaments have a reasonable prize. And on top of that how are you going to take 40% from the pot and then take a five dollar entry fee?

 

[allinone]

Mistaken again...

We are not charging a venue fee. That is why we are taking the percentage of the pot.

We are taking less money in order for it to be more affordable for players.

 

[Inui]

I'm pretty sure people can afford $10 instead of $5.

Are you trying to have 30 person tournaments with the scene actually interested, or cater to about 5 people unwilling to spend more than $5?

Wtf @ no doubles still.

You're not being a very good businessman, good sir.

 

[_Yes!_]

You STILL don't get it.

Most people live an hour+ from you. Why would they drive so far to fight for the chance to win $25? Make it $10 and charge a venue fee to leave the pot alone.

 

[allinone]

Although I appreciate your experience and your suggestions INUI, I don't appreciate you posting disrespectful things on this thread. I also don't appreciate you questioning my integrity as a businessman. I have been running events for kids for almost 20 years and the only community that is this difficult to please is "Smash Bros".

Young people like yourself should appreciate someone who actually has responsiblity in there life being concerned with giving kids a safe place to hang out and play games.

We have doubles scheduled for players who want it.

Some weeks players have chosen not to have doubles.

I am asking all players if they do not wish to come please do not post disparaging remarks about interested players.

 

[Inui]

Your experience isn't really showing.

Do you want to have 20-30 people and make real money?

Or do you want to have 5-10 people and make next to nothing?

Listening to me gets you the former, listening to yourself gets you latter.

Plain and simple.

 

[Turbo Ether]

Your experience isn't really showing.

Do you want to have 20-30 people and make real money?

Or do you want to have 5-10 people and make next to nothing?

Listening to me gets you the former, listening to yourself gets you latter.

Plain and simple.

You can't help someone that doesn't want to be helped. If he wants to disregard your suggestions, that's his business.

 

[_Yes!_]

Young people like yourself should appreciate someone who actually has responsiblity in there life being concerned with giving kids a safe place to hang out and play games.

You should learn to not assume things because that makes you look dumb

Spoiler

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You posted on a site where the most competitive people play this game. If you blatantly disregard how we would like your tourney to happen (note: what we're asking for isn't unreasonable), stop posting here.

 

[Punishment Divine]

Yo allinone guy not to sound disrespectful but you are ignoring the advice of not only players, but seasoned tournament organizers like Inui, who is a person who's held tournaments that have gotten people from places like TX to come =/

I respect your position as a businessman with experience, but this is one field you might want to take advice on

 

[Dr.Brawl]

Mistaken again...

We are not charging a venue fee. That is why we are taking the percentage of the pot.

We are taking less money in order for it to be more affordable for players.

I apologize for reading your post wrong, but seriously your should listen to inui or the other tournament hosts.

 

[allinone]

All of the advice has been gladly taken and appreciated. We have made some changes based on a combination of this forum and existing in store players.

We are looking for the players that are interested to come to the events. If some players are not interested I am also asking that you not put down what we are offering.

The idea of this thread is to enhance the Smash community not hinder it. Our events may not be exactly what everyone wants. We do have many customers who like what we are offering.

Again, I am asking the this thread not get filled up with comments that are not positive.

Suggestions are welcome, we just can't always follow through with all of them. We need to put our regular customers requests in front of others.

 

[Inui]

Then none of us are coming, lol.

 

[Kaiber Kop]

All of the advice has been gladly taken and appreciated. We have made some changes based on a combination of this forum and existing in store players.

We are looking for the players that are interested to come to the events. If some players are not interested I am also asking that you not put down what we are offering.

The idea of this thread is to enhance the Smash community not hinder it. Our events may not be exactly what everyone wants. We do have many customers who like what we are offering.

Again, I am asking the this thread not get filled up with comments that are not positive.

Suggestions are welcome, we just can't always follow through with all of them. We need to put our regular customers requests in front of others.

Then none of us are coming, lol.

I don't blame him for his decision. He would be drastically changing what his current customers want in order of the possiblilty of attracting new players with no gaurantee they would actually go.

 

[Orion*]

I don't blame him for his decision. He would be drastically changing what his current customers want in order of the possiblilty of attracting new players with no gaurantee they would actually go.

this is true. which is why maybe like a biweekly/monthly maybe it should just be an actual tournament and the rest of the time it can be the kid friendly one lol.

i have fun going to denville and i like everyone there but i lose money winning a tournament and i cant afford that so i havent been since i have been enrolled in college/ short on cash :/

also. i dont understand, have you asked the reg customers if they would be opposed to 10 bucks instead of 5? i see them constantly ripping open like 20 dollar yugioh boxes with expensive decks and entering the tournament. same goes for all the other collectible games.

i was a very active mtg player before i came to the brawl community, and i know how much some of those decks are that i see little kids running around with so it seems weird to me. im not trying to bash you i just want to know if you asked

 

[Kaiber Kop]

this is true. which is why maybe like a biweekly/monthly maybe it should just be an actual tournament and the rest of the time it can be the kid friendly one lol.

i have fun going to denville and i like everyone there but i lose money winning a tournament and i cant afford that so i havent been since i have been enrolled in college/ short on cash :/

also. i dont understand, have you asked the reg customers if they would be opposed to 10 bucks instead of 5? i see them constantly ripping open like 20 dollar yugioh boxes with expensive decks and entering the tournament. same goes for all the other collectible games.

i was a very active mtg player before i came to the brawl community, and i know how much some of those decks are that i see little kids running around with so it seems weird to me. im not trying to bash you i just want to know if you asked

A monthly sounds like a great idea.

I wish the Yu-Gi-Oh events there were swiss like every other venue in the country lol. I'd play there.

 

[rathy Aro]

Personally $5 with no venue fee sounds like a godsend to me. And if the other players are scrubby enough, I get free money, if not I only paid $5 to enter against people of my skill level. =/ The only thing that looks bad about this tourney is that it sounds like no one is gonna come and the community is 70 percent of the reason to go to tournies.

I suggest that you put up the results (at least the top 3) with how much money was won and how many entrants (every week). If it is lucrative to come to one of these tournaments then smashers will probably go regardless of anything else.

 

[TheOriginalSmasher]

I'm not sure how to make it any clearer.

THE TOURNAMENTS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE DOUBLE ELIMINATION ALREADY.

some of you need to understand that not every kid who plays wants to spend a ton of money to get wiped out in five minutes.

This is what i've been saying -_-

You posted on a site where the most competitive people play this game. If you blatantly disregard how we would like your tourney to happen (note: what we're asking for isn't unreasonable), stop posting here.

True, most competitive players are signed into the SWF, but also a lot of new players that are looking for advice and such. This would be a great tournament for them.

 

[_Yes!_]

You don't learn from playing people who aren't that good. Wanna get better? Take your lumps like most of us did.

 

[Inui]

You don't learn from playing people who aren't that good. Wanna get better? Take your lumps like most of us did.

qft x infinity

 

[rathy Aro]

You get better faster playing people of your own skill than not playing anyone at all. Are you really going to argue against that statement?

 

[_Yes!_]

If they all suck, then they're better off staying at home and watching good players on youtube.

 

[rathy Aro]

I've watched about every worthwhile video of sheik there is to watch on youtube and I'll probably look at them some more, but realistically no one can make any real improvements from just watching videos. You have to be able to put what you see into practice and the better the players I practice against the faster I'll improve. scrubs who are better than me>lvl 9 cpus that I can ****.

 

[_Yes!_]

If you're a smart player, youtube vids are all you need really.

 

[TheOriginalSmasher]

If you're a smart player, youtube vids are all you need really.

Not at all true. Assuming you mean smart as intelligent rather then good. My grandpa is smart, but he doesn't even know what a Wii is.



All in all, this is simple. If you want to have fun and maybe learn, go to the tournament. If you wanna not play for fun and stay home, then do that.

 

[_Yes!_]

Not at all true. Assuming you mean smart as intelligent rather then good. My grandpa is smart, but he doesn't even know what a Wii is.



All in all, this is simple. If you want to have fun and maybe learn, go to the tournament. If you wanna not play for fun and stay home, then do that.

oh god i'm facepalming so much now.

Being a smart player =/= being a smart person, but it helps to not be an idiot. You're not helping your case right now.

Also who are you?

 

[rathy Aro]

If you're a smart player, youtube vids are all you need really.

Smart is vague. Elaborate.

Not at all true. Assuming you mean smart as intelligent rather then good. My grandpa is smart, but he doesn't even know what a Wii is.

the grandpa example was irrelevant.

All in all, this is simple. If you want to have fun and maybe learn, go to the tournament. If you wanna not play for fun and stay home, then do that.

For fun, I would spend the extra money and just go to a tourney with the ny/nj regulars. Chilling with them>chilling with randoms most likely. I agree on the learning part.

Being a smart player =/= being a smart person, but it helps to not be an idiot. You're not helping your case right now.

So that's what you mean by smart. Well how exactly am I going to become a smart player without actually playing against people?

I will admit that this conversation did make me take a closer look at some sheik vids I've already seen. And I learned a lot from just the 5 or so vids I watched. Yes's advice=too good. =)

Spoiler

though I'm still not any better at smash. =(

 

[_Yes!_]

It comes with playing other fighters too. I applied some stuff I learned in street fighter to brawl and I feel like I got better.

 

[pwiito]

By smart term for brawl at least frmo what i know lol is basically when u take good decisions, read ur opponent, don't do stupid things applies to most fighting games

 

[rathy Aro]

Smash is the only game I play and if I play another fighter I still have to find people to play. =/

 

[_Yes!_]

By smart term for brawl at least frmo what i know lol is basically when u take good decisions, read ur opponent, don't do stupid things applies to most fighting games

that involves not losing to yoshi

Smash is the only game I play and if I play another fighter I still have to find people to play. =/

Online gaming

 

[Inui]

Yes is ****** these n00bs lmao good stuff.

 

[rathy Aro]

Yes hasn't backed up any of his claims or really responded to anything I've said. Unless he's trolling... If that's the case its just average trolling, not really "****."

@Yes: I'm not gonna pick up another game. If I can't be at least decent at the game I've spent forever on, I'm not gonna waste more time/money to suck at something else.

 

[Inui]

Yes has been 100% right in everything he said. That's pretty ****. ;D

 

[_Yes!_]

Yes hasn't backed up any of his claims or really responded to anything I've said. Unless he's trolling... If that's the case its just average trolling, not really "****."

@Yes: I'm not gonna pick up another game. If I can't be at least decent at the game I've spent forever on, I'm not gonna waste more time/money to suck at something else.

Um...I don't really know you. I'm offering my input about it. I don't need to back up my opinion. Whether you want to take the opinion of someone who probably knows more about the game than you seriously or not is up to you.

I never told you to pick up another game.

If you REALLY want to get better at the game....

Drop Sheik for a good character, go to tournies, play people who are better than you so that they can tell you what to fix after they beat you. You don't learn from winning.

Yes has been 100% right in everything he said. That's pretty ****. ;D

And I did it all without Phoenix Wright picks

 

[rathy Aro]

Well now that we've had the mighty, prudent, and infallable Inui assure me that all of Yes's words are correct I can now erase all doubt from my mind.

The problem is, dear, gracious Inui some unbelievers do not recognize that you have wisedom akin to the gods. Those blind fools will ask for evidence and reasons before they believe your word, which is obviously law.

Explain, not for me, but for the idiots who are too nearsighted to see the magnitude of your glory.

 

[_Yes!_]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=264661

Don't you EVER question Inui again.

 

[Inui]

I am a mighty hero that doesn't need to prove anything.

 

[rathy Aro]

Um...I don't really know you.

This is irrelevant.

I'm offering my input about it.

And I thank you for that.

I don't need to back up my opinion.

You never need to back up your opinion in any situation. But if you really wanted to help you would not just say, "I'm telling you the truth, believe it if you want," because if the person is reasonable you really haven't given them any incentive to actually listen to you and have taught them nothing. If you're not trying to help then I don't know why you've continued this conversation so far.

Whether you want to take the opinion of someone who probably knows more about the game than you seriously or not is up to you.

Probablity is based on knowledge and ignorance. Your probably is not my probably, because we don't have the same knowledge. Now if you tell me why you "probably" know more than me (and are right) then I will gladly listen to you, but based on my knowledge you're extrmemly inactive and don't have any notable achievements. I'm not saying you suck, you could be better and more knowledgeable than M2K; there just is not a way for me to guage this.

I never told you to pick up another game.

But you did say that smart players can get good at brawl just by watching vids and when I mentioned that I can't get smart if I don't play, you said one can get smart by playing other games. From that I can derive: if you want to be good at smash without having to go to tournies, play other games.

If you REALLY want to get better at the game....

Drop Sheik for a good character

Your character's ability to win a tournament does not affect your skill directly. I do agree that playing certain characters teach you certai essential skills, but that's different than what you're saying. ,

go to tournies,

I agree with this. The problem is I don't want to spend $35 just to go to a smash tourny. Now if only there were tournies that only charged $5 and no venue fee.... if only....

play people who are better than you so that they can tell you what to fix after they beat you. You don't learn from winning.

I agree on this too and I have tried to do this as much as I can. Keep in mind that this discussion began with my saying I either win money or play people better than me. I am talking about the latter, more likely situation so if I go to tournies like this one I will likely be playing people better than me and getting better.

Feel free to correct any of my statements if you care to, but if you don't explain your point of view, you're wasting your time. I completely understand if you just brush off my post.

edit: I already read Diem's post about Inui aka the most magical, wonderful thing to ever be written on smashboards.