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And the 1st place Trophy goes to...

kirbykid

BRoomer
BRoomer
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Messages
486
Location
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…..today’s update. *round of applause*
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A few days ago I was thinking to myself, “What’s the point of all those trophies in Melee? If only there were some way to incorporate them into the gameplay.”

<!--more-->I figured, Sakurai didn’t need to make many more trophies. Melee contains a staggering 293 trophies. Each trophy is a detailed 3D model and is accompanied by descriptive and informative text.

A long time ago, I thought that smash could have made a trophy tussle stage featuring a random trophy to fight on each time. This was a bad idea. Proper level design is essential for smash to function. Fighting on the back of a random trophy can easily kill level design. Also, collision detection and edges to grab onto have to be added for each trophy individually. This is a lot of work that would ultimately be a waste of time.

But now we have Assist Trophies. In essence, this item is like a pokeball. You grab it, something randomly comes out, and it does something (probably dangerous). Sakurai informed us that Hammer Bro, Nintendog, and Samurai Goro are assist type characters.

“Basically, they’re guest characters separate from Smash’s playable roster! Super Smash Bros. Brawl is sort of like a festival that all sorts of characters show up for.”

A festival eh? Now we’re heading in the right direction. I believe this is the answer to our desire to fight with tons of various characters from various games. Smash is a fighter, and all playable character in the roster must have a basic moveset for A attacks, special moves for B attacks, and jumping ability. This is why a Tetris block would be a terrible character. Even if rotating along the stage was an attack, that’s just 1 out of 7 A attacks. It becomes too much of a stretch to make Tetris a character.
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“Assist Trophies allow you to enjoy even more characters who couldn’t quite make it as playable fighters.”

Assist type characters come out, do their one task, and then they disappear (in theory). Like pokemon (Chansey, Cyndaquil) only some of the Assist characters will be vulnerable to attack. Though I haven’t played the game, this is the piece of news that disappoints me the most. Most of the Assist characters are invincible. Sakurai suggests running away. I would much prefer being able to take on the assist types as if they were characters. It may be risky, I may end up taking unnecessary damage, but at least I have the option. I think the assist types should be more like Goombas, Octorock, or Redead from Melee. They can attack and do damage to you, but you can still attack them. I love picking up a Redead and throwing them across the stage, or jumping on the heads of Goombas. For now, I’ll just have to trust Sakurai. After all, being able to attack assist types may not be appropriate in all cases. What happens when you attack a Tetris block? When you prick them, do they not bleed? I don’t think so. As long as everything is consistent, all will be well.
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I hope Sakurai retains the Assist type characters style from their original games. I want to jump through a storm of hammers and land on a Hammer Bro’s head for a one hit kill. I want that Hammer Bro to then flip upside down and fall off the screen. If I get hit by a hammer, I want a classic Mario sound effect.

I wonder if there’s more to Assist Trophies that will further separate them from pokeballs.

“You may even see some that only the most dedicated fans will recognize, so you’ll have to look forward to them”

I’m calling it now. GRIT!!!!!!!!!!
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Master Makoku

Guest
Yeah first update! Assist trophies look amazing. This was a good idea since, like you already said, we can have some of the characters that we wanted in the game without have a 80 character roster. Its a shame samurai goro, and hammer bro couldnt make the cut but at least there still in it. Im bettin a metroid will make it as and assist trophie. Oh and I realized you didnt make any funny comments in the pictures! :(
 
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Calypso

Guest
Samurai Goro was personal favorite of mine to appear on the roster…but alas, it’s not to be. At least he’s in Brawl in some form.

These should definitly make 4-way matches more interesting/awesome, especially with pokeballs falling everywhere as well.

Hopefully there will be a confirmation that Pikmins are in it.
 
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XperimnT

Guest
So basically these “assist trophies” are like PokeBalls. Imagine where the idea came from. Every once in a while in Melee, you would break open a crate and out pops a Goomba or a ReDead, but they weren’t on anybody’s side. So I kinda seen this one coming.
Its a great idea. Not only do we get to see a little more variety in items, but we also see cameo appearances from other characters that dont repeat their name over and over like Pokemon.

Master Makoku:
Having a Metroid appear as an assist trophy is likely, but it would be more likely, and even cooler if one of the 6 other bounty hunters from Metroid Prime Hunters would appear as “assists” and maybe even playable characters.
 
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Grub Stomper

Guest
Can you name all six?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Trace, Weavel, Sylux, Spire, Kanden, Noxus!
Trace, Weavel, Sylux, Spire, Kanden, Noxus!
Trace, Weavel, Sylux, Spire, Kanden, Noxus!
Trace, Weavel, Sylux, Spire, Kanden, Noxus!
Trace, Weavel, Sylux, Spire, Kanden, Noxus!
Trace, Weavel, Sylux, Spire, Kanden, Noxus!
Trace, Weavel, Sylux, Spire, Kanden, Noxus!
Trace, Weavel, Sylux, Spire, Kanden, Noxus!
Trace, Weavel, Sylux, Spire, Kanden, Noxus!
Trace, Weavel, Sylux, Spire, Kanden, Noxus!
Trace, Weavel, Sylux, Spire, Kanden, Noxus!
Trace, Weavel, Sylux, Spire, Kanden, Noxus!

and Samus Aran…
 
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Master Makoku

Guest
yeah hunters would be cool. Hopefully some make it as playable characters.
 
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CJ

Guest
Yeah hunters in Brawl would be cool but it would have to be like Sylux cause all the other hunters weapons give them an unfair advantage
 
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Alpha

Guest
Maybe the assit trophies are different from the pokemon because they can hurt the person who “released” them? It’d make you think twice before using one.
 
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Master Makoku

Guest
I doubt they’d hurt the summoner but you never now.
 
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CJ

Guest
Yeah but what good would that be personally i think if they attacked me i would be afraid to use them. Also imagine if you could fight them if they’re attacking you, Hammer Bro is going down!
 
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Master Makoku

Guest
When I summon hammer bro I’m gonna say “Its Hammer Time”!

They say on the dojo that the character summoned goes and attacks the opponent. So they dont attack you but you might still get hurt by it if you are hit or run into them. Though I highly doubt they’ll hurt the summoner. They’re probably gonna work like pokeballs.
 
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CJ

Guest
Exactly. I hope some characters like Ike from Fire Emblem at least show up as Assist Trophies. Maybe even characters from Assist Trophies will have two attacks, that would be cool.
 
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Master Makoku

Guest
Multiple attacks would be sweet. Wow have you noticed were the only ones posting? Maybe were the only ones left.
 
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CJ

Guest
Oh so sad they all left us. Nintendog looks like a stupid Assist Trophy because he blocks your view also. By the way who is your main characte?
 
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Master Makoku

Guest
Eh i use just about anyone but my main character would probably be samus. Shes been my best since the first smash bros though im not that great. Wat bout you? Oh and who cares about the others were the coolest anyways.
 
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CJ

Guest
Yeah you know it. I use Roy I know Marth’s “better” but Roy has a larger hit area and sets things on fire. I also use Young Link because he’s super fast and also sets things on fire with his bow.
 
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Master Makoku

Guest
Fires good. Thats why I like the 4th of July you set of FIREworks. Oh and they explode. I actually think roys better i think hes stronger.
 
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Master Makoku

Guest
Hey nice of you to join us KirbyKid. Now I have someone else to talk to.
 
P

Pro Kid Smash

Guest
MAN!!!!
REALLY WANTED HAMMER BROS IN SMASH..

I GOT SO EXCITED UNTIL I SAW THAT hb WASNT PLAYABLE..
 
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Master Makoku

Guest
Tis a shame that HB isnt playable. I already had a moveset for him and was hoping i was right. Well at least hes in the game. This does open up oportunities. Now you can have some of the characters you wanted in the game that didnt make the cut as playable characters. I love how Sakurai refers to the game as a festival that characters are invited to compete in. It makes them seem more lifelike.
 
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METROID MAN

Guest
AMAZING! I JUST CRAPPED MY PANTS AT THE LATEST UPDATE!

IMAGINE, METROIDS EVERYWHERE, SUCKING UP PEOPLES LIFE FORCE!
OR PIKMIN ATTACKING THE STAGE
OR……………DARK LINK COPYING ENEMIES MOVES!
 
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CJ

Guest
Hello, really did you crap your pants? Anyway the festival idea is great unless they invite the gay Limk from the cd-i games that would not be my kind of festival.
 
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CJ

Guest
Hello, really did you crap your pants? Anyway the festival idea is great unless they invite the gay Link from the cd-i games that would not be my kind of festival. Sorry didn’t spell Links name right last comment.
 
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Master Makoku

Guest
Gay Link? Never knew that. No wonder he never gets with any girl. J/K
 
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CJ

Guest
Makes since though, he is a fairy. I hope they bring in Sonic and Shadow. Except they shouldn’t be clones they should be totally different. Sonic could be a speedy close range fighter while Shadow could use guns and weapons.
 
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Master Makoku

Guest
Its possible. Sakurai said he’d bring in one or two more third-party characers. I was think sonic and tails. But I also hope megaman or zero make it in.
 
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CJ

Guest
Yeah Zero would be awesome. He could have a weal long range rapid fire gun and his awesome Z Saber.
 
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CJ

Guest
I’ll fight Falco I know every move in Falco and Fox’s list so bring it on anytime. And what do you think you’re cool because you lke to do a blue feathered flightless bird. See what your Falco does against my Roy.
 
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Falcofucker

Guest
why do you keep deleating my posts…be a man and give me an answer before i woop your ass in super smash melee and again when brawl comes out
 
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RC Hammer

Guest
I just hope that the creators of SSBB don’t go all spazo and turn every character we want as playable into an assist trophy! I mean, generally, this is a good idea, but if it is not handled correctly… It could lead to a Smash disaster…
 
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Falcofucker

Guest
and ill whoop anyones ass with falco…kirby , roy, your all jokes…bring it on
 
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leon

Guest
I wanna c the rhino from donkey kong run around the stage nd knock ppl the **** out
 

kirbykid

BRoomer
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Messages
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Location
Texas
Dear Mr. Falco

You think you’re good, and you’re making all kinds of challenges, but unless you live near Dallas, there’s no way to prove it.

I delete your posts when you’re vulgar and rude.

Oh, and you can’t beat me.
 
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Master Makoku

Guest
Yeah. You probably couldnt even beat me and Im not that good. But oh well. Just keep deleting his posts if they’re rude, and the rest of us just ignore him.
 
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