an URGENT PLEA & interesting 'discovery'

[j3ly]

please.. anyone with AR upload a full set of marios moves ( one in the middle of stage one at the edge) with the hitboxes visible! it will be so beneficial to so many people!!

moving on.. im PRETTY **** sure marios bair has a disjoint. ive never seen it spaced how i spaced it today (probably a good reason, its stupidly hard & probably impractical to try and perform on a consistent basis) and im near sure that there is a little disjoint. again, AR would teach many of us much more about mario.

dare i predict my call will go totally unheard though. :'(

 

[lordvaati]

keep fighting the good fight, jelly. I'll check in training to see if I see there is a DH somewhere.

 

[HiIH]

There's a download link somewhere that has everyone's hitboxes in a program and such.

I remember it's gigantic, but I can't remember what it's called.

 

[j3ly]

once again u help me out, thats all the info i need

BTW im not going to post it publicaly, due to prying eyes in the london scene. PM me and ill hook anyone up who needs hooking up (once i find it)

 

[Strong Badam]

seanson's hitbox project was not finished. it did not include mario. it does however include dr. mario. i can hook people up w/ it if they want for reference, it's mostly accurate, sans fsmash and the specials.

 

[j3ly]

appreciated but I for one will pass on that, ill get AR myself and maybe even release a hitbox project for everyone else.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

Where did it hit? like above below what?

 

[j3ly]

directly side on, seemed to be the utmost limit of the move. my parents are back from holiday now so i might try too see if i can reproduce it. Im not too sure on the limitations of disjoints - jiggz bair has a disjoint so does that mean our bairs will clank/trade with it? just a thought. At any rate if what i believe to be the signs of a disjoint are correct - this move is disjointed, if only slightly.

goin by that post that priority doesnt exist (vids or it didnt happen - i would need to see a video of something like marios fair going through peaches fair) it would make sense that, properly spaced, this move goes through or clanks/trades with jigz bair. again its just a thought.

 

[Strong Badam]

priority isn't a coded concept, it's existence is purely due to the differences in hitbox size between moves and frame advantage.
edit: if puff spaces/times it really badly mario can... but not really.

 

[NES n00b]

Mario's bair can't beat jigglypuff's bair. Jigglypuff's whole leg is disjointed and has a bigger hitbox size while mario's is not that disjointed if any.

 

[tubes]

Forget mario, Roy's hitboxes should have been completed a long time ago! I wanna see just where the spike on his Dair and up smash is. **** is so mysterious.

 

[j3ly]

priority isn't a coded concept, it's existence is purely due to the differences in hitbox size between moves and frame advantage.
edit: if puff spaces/times it really badly mario can... but not really.

yeah the post said that, the one i was talkin about

Mario's bair can't beat jigglypuff's bair. Jigglypuff's whole leg is disjointed and has a bigger hitbox size while mario's is not that disjointed if any.

the whole leg... whaaaat! no! i didnt know.

Roy dude - the hitbox for spike is directly in line horizontally with the hilt of his blade, goes to about halfway through the swords hitbox

 

[Gimpyfish62]

if mario's bair is even slightly disjointed it isn't enough for it to matter like at all - you're either going to just be hitting/getting blocked or you're going to trade at that range - same as if you'd just spaced it and it wasn't disjointed.

 

[j3ly]

dammit. maybe i need to do some looking into spacing mechanics, i hope there are threads about them

 

[The Irish Mafia]

It would let him space like a mother****er. Bair-waveland would become a good idea again. He's not rising on the tier list or anything, but he might become a tad better in tourney

I like it, jelly. Figure it out.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

Mario is under used like most people look around you WILL find stuff if you look just don't quit. I have found a LOT of stuff for pichu that no one ever knew like peach/zedla can't grab pichu when he is jabing or ducking(wait I just got a new great idea) giving you a bit more power when you are sheild pressureing her

 

[HiIH]

Hitting the bair isn't the problem. It's not getting punished in your waveland. That means you have to have enough knockback/hitstun/notmarth to Shbawl without getting your **** rocked.

 

[Tamoo]

prying london eyes lool,

I really wanna see this mario discovery you got man

 

[j3ly]

i told you, im not telling anyone that because if it gets out its potential catastrophe in a certain situation. theres a small chance youll see later today anyway lol, youll know when it happens

i never noticed it before until i died twice in 10 seconds, to be fair i was trying to be cheeky at the time but still. Lips pursed ^^