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I'd been meaning to make this topic a while ago, but the events of today made me decide to go ahead and do it.
This was a response to Xiivi's OBVIOUSLY A JOKE thread about how awesome America is:
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Originally Posted by Chris Lionheart
Seriously? Seriously, noone has told this thread off as what is is? *Sigh* I suppose I must be the one to do this.... and I really hope this is a joke thread.
I'm an American and I can tell you that this is a really stupid thread.
No, America does not have superiority over other countries.
(Referring to a majority of our population) We are arrogant (threads like this basically prove it). We are fat. We are ********. Our education system is garbage. We are promiscuous. We wage war on everything we don't like. We re-elected a complete ****** into office. Our current president was elected solely on the basis of race and appearance. Shall I go on?
It's no big surprise we have so many enemies.
Is it all bad... no... we have a lot of freedom that other countries don't get. Our founding was certainly noble, and America was a great country in its past.... now... not so much.
Also:
Football is the single worst sport ever. It's more of a male-on-male molestation than a true sport. And soccer is the real football... you use your hands in American football... wtf?!
McDonald's is horrible.... now Taco Bell.. that's a great achievement.
Neither of those women you posted are beautiful. When you say "Best looking women (and American women are often beautiful)", you should actually post a picture of a beautiful woman.
Beer is overrated.
Our music (by which I mean rap and most other modern music) is just pathetically bad.
And earlier today, a friend of mine wrote this as her Facebook status:
Does America have problems? Of course it does. But EVERY place has problems. America is FAR BETTER NOW than it was in the past, and it gets better every day. America was better in the past? Really? When signs like "Irish need not apply" were common and blacks could be lynched for little to no reason and women couldn't vote and Japanese people were interned and the Chinese Exclusion Acts were passed and the Spanish-American War was fought to sell newspapers? That America is better than this America? You've got to be out of your mind to truly believe that.
And the Founding Fathers were not magical and noble men. They were smugglers who didn't want to pay their taxes. They created a wonderful government to serve that end, I think, but it's not as much about the right to have political freedom as it is about the right to be able to MAKE MONEY. And when you really think about it, that's not a bad thing, it's a great thing. America (and the West in general) is one of the few places in the history of the world where a person can be born with nothing and rise to the heights of power, and it's through money. Look at Oprah. One of the most powerful women in the world is a BLACK WOMAN LIVING IN AMERICA. That is because her country afforded her the opportunity to chase money, and now that she's got boatloads of it, she can do anything. People who tell you that money is bad and chasing it is wrong are people who do not have your best interests at heart. That is what makes America great; not the ability to vote, but the ability to earn vast sums of money. There is something that every leader since the dawn of time has in common: none of them were poor when they were leading. Is that a coincidence?
And if you were born here, you're an American. That's it, end of story. You're not an African-American or an Italian-American or any of those other stupid hyphenated phrases. The funny thing is, destroying the "melting pot" image of America and turning it into a "salad bowl" does not help you, it hurts you. That's the reason why Latinos and blacks don't work together, because we've been told for decades that we're two separate groups and that our interests are contradictory towards each other even though they really aren't. That's why politicians play this class warfare "rich vs. poor" nonsense, to make us think that people will more or less money than you are your enemies. It's called divide and conquer, and it's worked since the dawn of time and it's working on us now, and we're too happy to oblige those who want to control us by believing that we're special and deserve our own groups and our own names for those groups, when all it does is put us in conflict with our neighbors and mask the agenda of those who are really screwing us.
My son has heritage from England, western Africa, Spain, the Tainos, Palestine, the Cherokee, and probably five or six other cultures and peoples that I know nothing about. Isn't that wonderful? Where else but America could so many different places and people come together in the form of one life? My son is an American boy, and he will grow up and chase money and be happy because he will be able to take care of himself and his family and give them whatever they want because this place affords him that opportunity.
And that's bad? Really? If it's really that terrible, then move. I dare you. I double dare you. Offer to trade places with ANYONE in the entire world, ans see how many people you get begging for the chance to come here.
This is not to gloss over all the problems America has, because there are plenty. But ****, it's about time that someone said something GOOD about the place that allows them the leisure and opportunity to bash their home on a videogame website.
I'd been meaning to make this topic a while ago, but the events of today made me decide to go ahead and do it.
This was a response to Xiivi's OBVIOUSLY A JOKE thread about how awesome America is:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Lionheart
Seriously? Seriously, noone has told this thread off as what is is? *Sigh* I suppose I must be the one to do this.... and I really hope this is a joke thread.
I'm an American and I can tell you that this is a really stupid thread.
No, America does not have superiority over other countries.
(Referring to a majority of our population) We are arrogant (threads like this basically prove it). We are fat. We are ********. Our education system is garbage. We are promiscuous. We wage war on everything we don't like. We re-elected a complete ****** into office. Our current president was elected solely on the basis of race and appearance. Shall I go on?
It's no big surprise we have so many enemies.
Is it all bad... no... we have a lot of freedom that other countries don't get. Our founding was certainly noble, and America was a great country in its past.... now... not so much.
Also:
Football is the single worst sport ever. It's more of a male-on-male molestation than a true sport. And soccer is the real football... you use your hands in American football... wtf?!
McDonald's is horrible.... now Taco Bell.. that's a great achievement.
Neither of those women you posted are beautiful. When you say "Best looking women (and American women are often beautiful)", you should actually post a picture of a beautiful woman.
Beer is overrated.
Our music (by which I mean rap and most other modern music) is just pathetically bad.
And earlier today, a friend of mine wrote this as her Facebook status:
My question is, why? What is so fun and cool and hip and elite and righteous and every other superlative word about hating the place in which you live? I can't say this with certainty, but I don't think our Australian members or British members hate their countries as much as some of our American members hate ours.
Does America have problems? Of course it does. But EVERY place has problems. America is FAR BETTER NOW than it was in the past, and it gets better every day. America was better in the past? Really? When signs like "Irish need not apply" were common and blacks could be lynched for little to no reason and women couldn't vote and Japanese people were interned and the Chinese Exclusion Acts were passed and the Spanish-American War was fought to sell newspapers? That America is better than this America? You've got to be out of your mind to truly believe that.
And the Founding Fathers were not magical and noble men. They were smugglers who didn't want to pay their taxes. They created a wonderful government to serve that end, I think, but it's not as much about the right to have political freedom as it is about the right to be able to MAKE MONEY. And when you really think about it, that's not a bad thing, it's a great thing. America (and the West in general) is one of the few places in the history of the world where a person can be born with nothing and rise to the heights of power, and it's through money. Look at Oprah. One of the most powerful women in the world is a BLACK WOMAN LIVING IN AMERICA. That is because her country afforded her the opportunity to chase money, and now that she's got boatloads of it, she can do anything. People who tell you that money is bad and chasing it is wrong are people who do not have your best interests at heart. That is what makes America great; not the ability to vote, but the ability to earn vast sums of money. There is something that every leader since the dawn of time has in common: none of them were poor when they were leading. Is that a coincidence?
And if you were born here, you're an American. That's it, end of story. You're not an African-American or an Italian-American or any of those other stupid hyphenated phrases. The funny thing is, destroying the "melting pot" image of America and turning it into a "salad bowl" does not help you, it hurts you. That's the reason why Latinos and blacks don't work together, because we've been told for decades that we're two separate groups and that our interests are contradictory towards each other even though they really aren't. That's why politicians play this class warfare "rich vs. poor" nonsense, to make us think that people will more or less money than you are your enemies. It's called divide and conquer, and it's worked since the dawn of time and it's working on us now, and we're too happy to oblige those who want to control us by believing that we're special and deserve our own groups and our own names for those groups, when all it does is put us in conflict with our neighbors and mask the agenda of those who are really screwing us.
My son has heritage from England, western Africa, Spain, the Tainos, Palestine, the Cherokee, and probably five or six other cultures and peoples that I know nothing about. Isn't that wonderful? Where else but America could so many different places and people come together in the form of one life? My son is an American boy, and he will grow up and chase money and be happy because he will be able to take care of himself and his family and give them whatever they want because this place affords him that opportunity.
And that's bad? Really? If it's really that terrible, then move. I dare you. I double dare you. Offer to trade places with ANYONE in the entire world, ans see how many people you get begging for the chance to come here.
This is not to gloss over all the problems America has, because there are plenty. But ****, it's about time that someone said something GOOD about the place that allows them the leisure and opportunity to bash their home on a videogame website.
