Amazing reads - An combo video idea

[♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡]

I focus too much on flashy combos.
Therefore I've concluded this community focuses too much on flashy combos. The cause of this obsession, the mother of all aevils? Combo videos - with combos.
(My lofic is infallible)

What do you think of an idea of a combo video where there were no combos? Just really neat spacing, amazing reads and superb mindgames? I realize most combo videos have these anyway, but the focus is on the actual combos, not the situation or read which lead to the combo, therefore everything else tends to get overshadowed by the...combos.
But in this type of video the combos or 0-deaths wouldn't matter.

Oh and one last thing, for god's sake no techo/heavy trance music plz

E:

Eh the video section...yeah

 

[Izuhu]

I focus too much on flashy combos.
Therefore I've concluded this community focuses too much on flashy combos.

You made those first two sentences sound like just because you focus on doing flashy combos the whole community focuses on doing it. Might wanna correct that, but I know what you mean. Anyways......for music imo I'll use hip hop (the good kind, underground specifically); it goes surprisingly well with Melee.

 

[Sixth-Sense]

You made those first two sentences sound like just because you focus on doing flashy combos the whole community focuses on doing it. Might wanna correct that, but I know what you mean. Anyways......for music imo I'll hip hop (the good kind, underground specifically); it goes surprisingly well with Melee.

Oh my god, yes YES, i usually use eligh or seven star, there music seem to fit well with pace of the game, and reads too

 

[leffen]

The problem is that the average player wouldn't understand/appreciate what top players would call an amazing read.



and I fear that this video is just gonna be player A doing something really stupid and player B happened to look for it

 

[PGH Carroll]

I got your first clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sWCl5ty-nc&t=18s

 

[Izuhu]

The problem is that the average player wouldn't understand/appreciate what top players would call an amazing read.



and I fear that this video is just gonna be player A doing something really stupid and player B happened to look for it

Your right, the thing is tech skill attracts the average player and sometimes won't even. Ignorant players will probably see an amazing read as oh... he just tricked him. Yea he did tricked him, and was able to do it because knows the MU, the players weaknesses/disadvantages, and saw the players patterns throughout match. With all that he took the player flaws and punished him. This game is like Chess, its all about reading your opponent.

Knowing is half the battle

 

[Bones0]

Your second clip should be Lovage's nair-shine shield pressure to hard read usmash vs. Tope at Northwest Manifest.

The people saying a vid like this wouldn't attract newer players is being extremely condescending imo. Even new players are able to recognize and appreciate smart reads when they see them.

 

[♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡]

The problem is that the average player wouldn't understand/appreciate what top players would call an amazing read.

And this is what I want to change

E:

Nice clip Carrol =)

You made those first two sentences sound like just because you focus on doing flashy combos the whole community focuses on doing it. Might wanna correct that, but I know what you mean. Anyways......for music imo I'll use hip hop (the good kind, underground specifically); it goes surprisingly well with Melee.

I don't know if this is your taste, but you might enjoy this channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsnvaeXhfBM&list=PLF1E6163BF5FC9FE3&feature=plpp_play_all

 

[leffen]

Your second clip should be Lovage's nair-shine shield pressure to hard read usmash vs. Tope at Northwest Manifest.

The people saying a vid like this wouldn't attract newer players is being extremely condescending imo. Even new players are able to recognize and appreciate smart reads when they see them.

Look, it may be condescending, but that doesn't mean that its wrong.

Your first part just confirmed how right I was, sigh.


jeez this is just gonna be 3 minutes of people rolling into ****, ****ing noobs man

 

[-Philip Coast Philip-]

. . .amazing reads. . .

unlike your thread title.... heh heh heh :nudgewink:

What do you think of an idea of a combo video where there were no combos? Just really neat spacing, amazing reads and superb mindgames? I realize most combo videos all of the samus combo videos have these

hey, you're right!

and in fact the samus boards have been needing some more cvs lately. what a perfect opportunity to pool all your clips from one spot! how luckyy

 

[Ryobeat]

What do you think of an idea of a combo video where there were no combos? Just really neat spacing, amazing reads and superb mindgames.

Neat Spacing, amazing reads, and superb mindgames are usually IN a combo or RESULT in a combo, so its pretty similar. Just have combos that end in amazing reads, or something like that. but most amazing combos, people read other's DI (or react), and space properly.

 

[Engo]

Oh my god, yes YES, i usually use eligh or seven star, there music seem to fit well with pace of the game, and reads too

Fast tempo jazz goes great with spacies combo videos I've found.

 

[Dr Peepee]

cactuar combo video

cool idea

 

[CableCho57]

a compilation with live hype audio would be better than a combo video imo

 

[Izuhu]

And this is what I want to change

E:

Nice clip Carrol =)



I don't know if this is your taste, but you might enjoy this channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsnvaeXhfBM&list=PLF1E6163BF5FC9FE3&feature=plpp_play_all

After I saw the word Nujabes I didn't even have to listen to know that **** was legit. Nujabes <3

 

[Youngling]

Your second clip should be Lovage's nair-shine shield pressure to hard read usmash vs. Tope at Northwest Manifest.

YES!!! I was just about to say that. One of my favorite clips of all time.

 

[foshio]

I always thought 5:03 of this set was amazing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ9c-2lAld4

 

[Eggm]

cactuar combo video

cool idea

This is exactly what I thought, just I was gonna post that one vid where he like 3 stocks dark rain without even doing a 2-hit combo.

 

[Divinokage]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VOzA0T2jdsM#t=275s something like that? lol.

 

[Cactuar]

cactuar combo video

cool idea

This is exactly what I thought

Lulz. I wish I were half as good at the other half of the game as I am at the half that I am good at. (say that 3 times fast )

 

[Varist]

I always thought 5:03 of this set was amazing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ9c-2lAld4

you and everyone else on the face of the earth

 

[CableCho57]

I always thought 5:03 of this set was amazing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ9c-2lAld4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk09c6iLLdU

thats at the end of this clip too

 

[FrootLoop]

Hitting a cornered or shielding opponent should really just be expected since they have .4 options. That's the whole point.

 

[Tee ay eye]

i feel like this video would be too hard to make just because it'll be really hard to decide what should and what should not be allowed in the video

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

a compilation with live hype audio would be better than a combo video imo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQg-Vt9v5x0

I think this is what you're looking for.

 

[ph00tbag]

I'm almost positive it's called, "Hey Hugs..."

 

[Deleted member]

if you wanted to see guesswork in action, you could attempt to dictate coin flips.

i don't see why you would want to make yet another captain falcon combo video, the character really isn't that interesting.

 

[♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡]

if you wanted to see guesswork in action, you could attempt to dictate coin flips.

i don't see why you would want to make yet another captain falcon combo video, the character really isn't that interesting.

Hey what did I ever do to you lol

 

[Deleted member]

Hey what did I ever do to you lol

nothing. i rather like some of your ideas. this one is just begging for intellectual degeneracy though, there's no way you can't foresee it.

 

[KirbyKaze]

A lot of good reads have a long process of conditioning or staggering the opponent attached because that's just the nature of behaviour manipulation / prediction. Not sure how you'd capture this in a combo video because a lot of it occurs throughout the match (especially with conditioning). A 2 second clip can't convey this IMO and transplanting the read out of its context often makes it look like a lucky guess, which isn't impressive at all.

Interesting idea but obvious barriers exist. They can probably be worked around but I don't think the end product will look like a conventional highlight or combo video.

Wait > tipper on a sidestep doesn't even look like a read anymore. It just looks like a good reaction to a defensive commitment (probably on a staggered foe).

Lovage's pressure > charge u-smash thing is probably one of the best things you'll find that conveniently falls into the 2 second clip with visible reading and conditioning. In fact, this video will likely be just spacies (and Falcon, Marth, Puff [Mango], and Sheik) pressuring and then calling a defense option and hard covering it with something. Might be okay, but I wouldn't make the video longer than 3-4 mins if that's what it winds up being.

Mango's super ridiculous rests on Armada a la Genesis 1 should be in here (if nobody's mentioned them yet). His Puff dittos vs HBox from that also had some pretty swag moments (who jab cancels with Puff?) that might warrant a glance.

 

[Biglard]

I thought of three particular moments while reading through this thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6I6OkhiQII at 3:35

Mango's rest on Armada at Genesis 1

And the third one is Peepee sh-ing twice or thrice under a platform, with Armada shielding on it, and shieldstabbing him with a bair after the shield shrank a little bit (I don't remember the set for this one though, and I don't feel like rewatching all of their matches right now).

I think such a video could be very interesting, and could make some subtle reads appear more clearly to people like me with liittle to no knowledge of the mental aspect of the game.

 

[iffy525]

I got your first clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sWCl5ty-nc&t=18s

What's the technique for getting that usmash so quickly out of DD? Is it just a dash cancel?

 

[Twinkles]

I think in that video he just did control stick-up -> A for the smash.

 

[Bad Cupboard]

If you hit ^A you can usmash out of a dash or run

 

[Youngling]

it's called a jump cancelled usmash