Alola's Arboreal Archer - The Decidueye for Smash Thread (RIP the dream)

[N3ON]

That CSS in the trailer makes it seem like this'll be the extent of it.

I suppose there could be DLC but I wouldn't count on it.

 

[Luminario]

Decidueye looks great in Pokken.

Can't wait to play against it as I stick with exclusively playing Gardevoir again cause none of the newcomers interest me.

 

[Arcadenik]

That CSS in the trailer makes it seem like this'll be the extent of it.

I suppose there could be DLC but I wouldn't count on it.

Anyone got a picture of that CSS from that trailer?

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I just hope the USB controller I got with the original is compatible.

 

[AlphaSSB]

Pokken was fun, but it never stuck with me. I'd love to get the Switch version, but I'm not too keen on dropping another $60 for the game again. Maybe Gamestop will have some trade-in deal, but I highly doubt it.

Great to see Decidueye in the Pokken, though. This'll definitely open up a lot of Smash moveset ideas, although I don't think Decidueye struggled much with that in the first place.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Full art in it's HD glory.

 

[RedBr971]

I really support this since gente is: Coll, a grass pokémon and a new style of character soo.. Add me on this support list!

 

[Arcadenik]

This'll definitely open up a lot of Smash moveset ideas, although I don't think Decidueye struggled much with that in the first place.

This is one of the reasons why I wanted Meowth in Pokken. So the detractors would have plenty of visual illustrations of how Meowth might be like in Smash. And the supporters would have plenty of material to work with to create a Smash moveset.

At least now that Decidueye is in Pokken, I will have an easier time visualizing what normal moves Decidueye might do in Smash.

 

[Victory.IsMyDestinySSB4]

Just finished moon. My eyes have been opened. Support.

 

[fogbadge]

Lycanroc jumps up and the trailer cuts juuuuust as we get a good view on him.
Pretty sure he's transforming

i think you're reading to much into that

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Yeah, I think it's either a story cutscene or a new Z-Move. Given we also saw Mimikyu eat the camera, the latter looks likley

 

[BlueTerrorist]

I am very happy Decidueye is in Pokken. Will definitely give him a try, perhaps even main him.

 

[Opossum]

I just love that out of all Alola Pokémon, they picked Decidueye. Think about it, they needed a newcomer to entice double dippers, and the one non-arcade character they picked was him.

The lack of promotion over other characters was a common point of contention. Now Decidueye has that promotion, and in a fighting game to boot. I think good things are waiting, owl friends.

 

[Arcadenik]

I just love that out of all Unova Pokémon, they picked Decidueye. Think about it, they needed a newcomer to entice double dippers, and the one non-arcade character they picked was him.

The lack of promotion over other characters was a common point of contention. Now Decidueye has that promotion, and in a fighting game to boot. I think good things are waiting, owl friends.

Alola. It's Alola.

 

[Opossum]

Alola. It's Alola.

Whoops. Wrong region based on an area of the US.

 

[Arcadenik]

Whoops. Wrong region based on an area of the US.

I would love to see a new region based on Florida. Maybe there could be a story revolving a Pokémon theme park in the center of the region.

 

[Deleted member]

I got so hyped when I saw Decidueye in Pokken!
I had hopes that it would make it in Pokken, but the last character they added was Empoleon... so I got a little sad. To see it in Pokken now got me really excited and I want to get Pokken Deluxe just to play as it!
My favorite starter is in Pokken... today was a good day.
However, I hope that Decidueye's appearance won't hurt its chances of getting in Smash.

 

[Lord-Zero]

Nice to see that Decidueye will be in the Pokken port. I'm glad I held back on not buying the Wii U version of the game,

 

[Johnknight1]

I just love that out of all Alola Pokémon, they picked Decidueye. Think about it, they needed a newcomer to entice double dippers, and the one non-arcade character they picked was him.

The lack of promotion over other characters was a common point of contention. Now Decidueye has that promotion, and in a fighting game to boot. I think good things are waiting, owl friends.

Not gonna lie, reading the first part of this made me wonder if you were going to be critical of Decidueye!

But overall this is fantastic news for Decidueye fans. I think we got a very good chance of seeing Decidueye in Smash 4 on the Switch. I would still wager currently the odds of Decidueye are much higher for Smash 5 than Smash 4 on the Switch.

Having said that, if we get really any character confirmed for Smash 4 on the Switch, that kind of feels like a lock for Smash 5.

Whoops. Wrong region based on an area of the US.

Gotta save Unova for the Zoroark hype! if it ever comes back

 

[Deleted member]

But overall this is fantastic news for Decidueye fans. I think we got a very good chance of seeing Decidueye in Smash 4 on the Switch. I would still wager currently the odds of Decidueye are much higher for Smash 5 than Smash 4 on the Switch.

Having said that, if we get really any character confirmed for Smash 4 on the Switch, that kind of feels like a lock for Smash 5.

I mostly disagree with this to be honest.
I do think we'll get Smash on Switch eventually, but I am unsure if it will be Smash 4 Deluxe or Smash 5. If it's the former, then yeah I think Decidueye has a great chance!
If it's the latter... it depends on the timing of Smash 5. If it's out before Gen 8, then it has a decent shot of getting in. If it's out after Gen 8, I doubt it will get in.
Believing in absolutes is dangerous, especially when some characters perceived as "locks" weren't playable in Smash 4, like Chrom.

 

[Johnknight1]

I usually don't go all-in on "absolutes," but I can't see an angle where a character is added to the Smash 4 roster only to be absent in Smash 5.

Without all the stupid and terrible distractions that Smash 3DS and Smash Wii U requiring different co-developmental processes due to the unnatural 1:1 forced gameplay (which other games that go multi-platform do not do with technology gaps that far), there's no reason to cap the roster with all the assets at this point.

And besides that, characters developed in 2016/2017 should be easily transferable to a future game to come out in 2018, 2019 or 2020 on the same console and likely running on a very similar engine.

We've seen this multiple times in fighting games. Tekken 6 and Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Mortal Kombat 9 and Injustice, Mortal Kombat X and Injustice 2, etc.

It's not a matter of character selection but ease of access. Why would you cut a character that is super easy to transfer data to for a future game that is likely running on just a modified version of the same engine=???

It makes no sense. It's why Tekken Tag Tournament 2 retained much of the same cast as Tekken 6.

 

[N3ON]

Anyone got a picture of that CSS from that trailer?

 

[Arcadenik]

Thanks N3ON much appreciated!

Looking at the whole roster, I wish they added more cutesy Pokémon... you know, like Squirtle, Meowth, and Sylveon.

 

[Lord-Zero]

Thanks N3ON much appreciated!

Looking at the whole roster, I wish they added more cutesy Pokémon... you know, like Squirtle, Meowth, and Sylveon.

Well, if the game does well enough, it COULD get some DLC down the line. Add Bewear to that cutesy pokemon list.

 

[Arcadenik]

Ahh, yes! How could I have forgotten Bewear?! It's one of my favorite 7th gen Pokémon along with Decidueye, Mimikyu, and Alolan Meowth.

Edit

I'm glad I didn't get Pokken for the Wii U. The Switch version has more characters. Still... Pokken 2 would be nice.

 

[Deleted member]

Interesting thing to point out is that despite Z-Moves being like Pokken's Burst Attacks, Sinister Arrow Raid is not Decidueye's Burst Attack.

It has something completely different involving trapping an opponent in a tornado and then firing an arrow at the opponent.

My guess is, based on the nature of the game, it causes an explosion.

 

[Delzethin]

Wow, this thread took off. Understandably, though. Congrats on the Pokkén inclusion!

Hopefully we get more newcomers, whether through the base game or post-release. I'm noticing an egregious lack of Rock types, for one...

That CSS in the trailer makes it seem like this'll be the extent of it.

I suppose there could be DLC but I wouldn't count on it.

Worth mentioning that the CSS has changed size before. The original arcade release and demos only had room for 15:

...So it's entirely possible for it to expand again.

Furthermore, where's the random button in the current one? Would they really axe that?

 

[SuperSceptile15]

I originally supported Sceptile to be included as a newcomer, but unfortunately I think he no longer has a chance of being included as OR/AS's relevancy has long since passed. However, I think Decidueye would be the next best choice for a newcomer. I love all the Grass starters in general, and Decidueye is really cool. He could have a very unique moveset as an avian Grass type and bring much needed representation as a fully-evolved Grass starter to round out the starter trio and as an Alola rep for the seventh generation of Pokémon. I fully support Decidueye now, and would like to be added to the support list.

 

[Opossum]

I originally supported Sceptile to be included as a newcomer, but unfortunately I think he no longer has a chance of being included as OR/AS's relevancy has long since passed. However, I think Decidueye would be the next best choice for a newcomer. I love all the Grass starters in general, and Decidueye is really cool. He could have a very unique moveset as an avian Grass type and bring much needed representation as a fully-evolved Grass starter to round out the starter trio and as an Alola rep for the seventh generation of Pokémon. I full support Decidueye now, and would like to be added to the support list.

I'm on mobile now so editing is kind of a pain, haha. I'll definitely do it once I'm able to though!

Or I'll ask A Distant Demon for help.

 

[A Distant Demon]

I'm on mobile now so editing is kind of a pain, haha. I'll definitely do it once I'm able to though!

Or I'll ask A Distant Demon for help.

Damn you lazy. . .fine.

Tempted to change your name on the list to "Lazy Opossum"

 

[Opossum]

Damn you lazy. . .fine.

Tempted to change your name on the list to "Lazy Opossum"

I have large hands, a small phone, and no access to a computer. You must SHARE my hell, Zebei.

 

[cothero]

I was hoping to see something related to Smash today at E3, but damn, one can dream.

 

[Arcadenik]

For me, it would be ideal to have all 3 Kanto starters and fully evolved starters from other generations.

Grass starter = Decidueye (Sun & Moon)
FIre starter = Blaziken (Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire)
Water starter =

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Just to confirm, random still exists in DX but you press X for it now instead of choosing a portrait.

 

[Deleted member]

Figured I'd post the video of the Burst Attack.

Worth mentioning that the CSS has changed size before. The original arcade release and demos only had room for 15:

...So it's entirely possible for it to expand again.

Furthermore, where's the random button in the current one? Would they really axe that?

I am extremely doubtful we'll be getting any more additions, DLC or otherwise.
The fact they replaced the Random Select on literally every Selection screen (Character, Assist, and Stage) with the new content (though technically the Stage one was replaced by Ferrum Stadium while Thalia Beach took that stage's old spot right next to it) and had the ability to select something randomly mapped to a button on the controller instead implies that everything is "filled out" now.

 

[Opossum]

Figured I'd post the video of the Burst Attack.

I am extremely doubtful we'll be getting any more additions, DLC or otherwise.
The fact they replaced the Random Select on literally every Selection screen (Character, Assist, and Stage) with the new content (though technically the Stage one was replaced by Ferrum Stadium while Thalia Beach took that stage's old spot right next to it) and had the ability to select something randomly mapped to a button on the controller instead implies that everything is "filled out" now.

Kind of a weird thing to get excited about, but man...Decidueye finally embraced his ghostliness and went incorporeal at the end there for a bit. :D

 

[Deleted member]

Kind of a weird thing to get excited about, but man...Decidueye finally embraced his ghostliness and went incorporeal at the end there for a bit. :D

Yeah, Pokken actually highlights the ghost aspects that aren't really touched upon in Sun/Moon.

 

[Szion]

Wholehearrted support.

 

[Seraphii]

Decidueye is my favourite alola starter. And rowlet got some intense popularity out there. Just look at the amount of exclusively rowlet design merchandises. Rooting for decidueye. He looked amazing in pokken as well

 

[Amberloo]

Although Litten is my favorite of the Gen 7 starters, I actually dislike Incineroar (I kept mine as a Torracat for the whole game), and would much rather see Robin Hoot in the Smash roster. Decidueye has a really cool design, would complete the trifecta of starter types, and would be an archer type character which we don't really have that many of.

(Actually, I'd really want to see Passimian in the roster- it's my favorite Pokemon now- but there's no chance of that happening.)