AlbertaSmash

[Blitzmidfielder]

Play all three.

Just do it. If Brawl is so bad, it will destroy itself. If not, then just accept that others will play it. To deny people the right of doing what they want is something even I can't forgive, and it would disappoint me greatly if my friends pulled that crap, especially concerning the Smash community.

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

I can never come saturdays...well rarely

 

[kithkin]

Levi's got it all wrong, the controller could never be dry. We don't want to hurt them with the controller, not with the controller.

and Brandon, just sayin' blame the people who bring it up time and time again, I may hate the game competitively, but I never set out to get brawl players, merely tend to disagree or just have something to say whenever they try to argue their game.

You too Blitz, Brawl IS destroying itself every way it can. It really can't destroy the fact that smash is a gold franchise and will be fun for most people, but competitively it lost MOST of it's techincality and real flare. That doesn't nix the game from being competitive but that does lessen the crowd, because simply put, Street Fight IV sucks, 3rd Strike is still the game with more competitive value.

Frankly, Brawl players trying to argue their case time and time again is what makes real melee players so unwilling to even give brawl a chance, because we never came out to get you, but **** it's annoying as hell to hear for the millionth time that you think we are being unfair by ignoring brawl, even though considering the fact that we don't LIKE brawl, we are being considerate by giving brawl a chance to live in peace and host for itself, so we arn't rude to them.



Whoops I mean melee and brawl

 

[Tyson651]

i might be able to come on sat

 

[Alphicans]

Frankly, Brawl players trying to argue their case time and time again is what makes real melee players so unwilling to even give brawl a chance, because we never came out to get you, but **** it's annoying as hell to hear for the millionth time that you think we are being unfair by ignoring brawl, even though considering the fact that we don't LIKE brawl, we are being considerate by giving brawl a chance to live in peace and host for itself, so we arn't rude to them.



Whoops I mean melee and brawl

I hope you realize what you just said. We're lucky that you melee players allow brawl to exist. Is that what you're saying, cause that's what it sounds like. And actually there is soooo much brawl bashing in this thread it's ********. Every time someone new came into this thread and they turned out to play brawl instead of melee, it was "gtfo". That's not even exaggerating, look at sho's post if you don't believe me. Now a days it's always the melee players calling out the brawl players. I don't know why it is, but it seems you all think you have more rights? (IDK if that's the right word or not) than brawl players. It's just an overall weird situation.

One last thing for the CT5 argument. If Carl announced CT5 and said it was melee only, how many of you would complain over the fact that there is no 64?

 

[Blitzmidfielder]

One last thing for the CT5 argument. If Carl announced CT5 and said it was melee only, how many of you would complain over the fact that there is no 64?

Me.

10charizards

 

[Stevo]

Me

Mostly for the lulz. But im actually interested in it a little. I have 2 64's and 1 smash 64 game if they are needed.

 

[victra♥]

I hope you realize what you just said. We're lucky that you melee players allow brawl to exist. Is that what you're saying, cause that's what it sounds like. And actually there is soooo much brawl bashing in this thread it's ********. Every time someone new came into this thread and they turned out to play brawl instead of melee, it was "gtfo". That's not even exaggerating, look at sho's post if you don't believe me. Now a days it's always the melee players calling out the brawl players. I don't know why it is, but it seems you all think you have more rights? (IDK if that's the right word or not) than brawl players. It's just an overall weird situation.

One last thing for the CT5 argument. If Carl announced CT5 and said it was melee only, how many of you would complain over the fact that there is no 64?

IIRC, I think Sho was the only one to bash someone new, but he's an alcoholic jap, so his opinion is invalid. I don't even think Tyson bashed any of them either. We have Ganondorf the King and Cherry who are both Brawl players, but they're pretty tight. I'm also pretty good friends with Samusbrawler. It's pretty much because they didn't try to push us into playing brawl like you and the others are. =/ Which isn't saying I hate you or Brandon or Jack or whatever, just saying.

I would to be honest. I've always played that game a lot online, but it would be nice to have offline 64 in a competitive setting.

 

[Stevo]

have any of you ever watched brawl matches? I actually find them very interesting............
for the first 30 sec that is. The matches in brawl seem VERY repetetive, and it just feels like the same exact strategy for 6 minutes.

Melee is all about Momentum swings. One minute you can be loosing by 2 stocks, next minute its down to the wire.

Brawl on the other hand, seems to be a big grind fest. You find a strategy that works (read Move that works) and as long as it grinds down your opponents stock faster then yours, you will win (eventually)
I think its this lack of "what is going to happen next" that deters melee players.

I am also exagerating a little bit most of the time, like most of the other melee lovers, so dont take it personally brawl players, I of course dont actually REALLY believe that strategy in brawl is "1 move", but in some circumstances it is.

 

[Tyson651]

I hope you realize what you just said. We're lucky that you melee players allow brawl to exist. Is that what you're saying, cause that's what it sounds like. And actually there is soooo much brawl bashing in this thread it's ********. Every time someone new came into this thread and they turned out to play brawl instead of melee, it was "gtfo". That's not even exaggerating, look at sho's post if you don't believe me. Now a days it's always the melee players calling out the brawl players. I don't know why it is, but it seems you all think you have more rights? (IDK if that's the right word or not) than brawl players. It's just an overall weird situation.

One last thing for the CT5 argument. If Carl announced CT5 and said it was melee only, how many of you would complain over the fact that there is no 64?

um no, brad is saying even though brawl wasnt that great, there was still people (like carl but i guess hes the only one) who hosted a brawl tourney. brad was also saying that no melee player is preventing any brawl players (like u) to host ur own brawl tourney or anything like that.

and what victor said is right, sho is like the only one who bashed a brawl player lol, i dont really care if the person likes melee or brawl. the only thing that matters to me is, if the person likes melee, then yay come smashfest with us. and if its brawl? oh ok. and leave it as that lol.

nothing is preventing people like u to welcome brawl players, host brawl tourneys and like brawl.

its just a lot of us dont, and its just our opinion about it right.

and i dont care about 64. so no, i would not complain.

 

[Spin-Dash]

... To hell with it, I've at least got one last thing to say.

The only reason why some of us tried to encourage people to play Brawl is because if ALL everyone talked about was Melee, there would be no such thing as Brawl in Alberta. Like, at all. I'm sure a lot of you would do backflips if the game rolled over and died (not taking personal jabs or anything, it's just the truth of the game you like better, and I don't have gripes with that); but if you don't push and try, you'll never know in the end. It's like encouraging new players to the community to play Melee. You guys would do it just as much as someone like me would encourage Brawl (though granted, I'd recommend Melee at the same time, being a lover of both games)

I tried to get Brawl involved, and I still might try to host something for it along with the other games (before Genesis was announced...), but it just will not feel the same. Alberta has little to no spirit in the third game, and there's nothing I can really do about that except be angry. But being angry won't solve anything, so... I don't even know what to do anymore. I'm very close to just accepting the fact that whether I try, or whether I just leave it be, Brawl will never be a spectacle in Alberta like it is in other provinces or states.

I'd call myself unlucky, but you guys are awesome friends as is. I'd rather have you guys over video games anyday, because putting a game before people is ridiculous and only closes yourself off more.

I try to get Brawl bustling here, and no one listens (and if someone does, it's such a rarity)
I don't say anything, and Melee's still running strong.

Nothing wrong with that, but no one has the right to tell me to stop complaining though, if only for a little while.

Sorry for any kind of fires I started or something? O_o I dunno. Enjoy your Melee guys, I'll seeya at CT5 or whatever.

 

[Blitzmidfielder]

Spin Dash is now my friend and bro.

 

[Tyson651]

uh, theres like 8+ brawl players in edmonton alone lol.

a lot of them are the new guys, which u guys havent even tried to initiate some sort of smashfest or tourney for brawl so ya.

theres a lot of things u can do, like contact the new brawl players, they'll have friends for sure. and organize smashfests, tourneys etc. its much easier to recruit brawl players by friends of friends since brawl hasnt been out that long. for melee, its a lot harder cause u need tons of practice when u're introduced to the melee scene to keep up with everyone else.

and for melee, its about the same amount of people too u kno lol, excluding the friends of friends. so the melee scene isnt bigger than the brawl scene.

brawl isnt dying or anything, its u guys that are killing it technically by doing nothing, not the melee guys.

 

[Solaris1110]

Hey Brandon I heard you were good at Sonic Adventure 2: battle.

We should totally hijack a cube at a smashfest and play a couple matches. I LOVE that game.

 

[Stevo]

Brawl > Tekken

 

[Alphicans]

The problem with hosting brawl tournies is that I feel that only half the community would participate. Of course I could host melee/brawl, but then we could run into time issues, and the people that leave or don't show up for the brawl portion. I would think about hosting ADAT2 featuring brawl as a main event if I was assured that people wouldn't ditch on the brawl and only come to the melee.

 

[halcyon.days]

The problem with hosting brawl tournies is that I feel that only half the community would participate. Of course I could host melee/brawl, but then we could run into time issues, and the people that leave or don't show up for the brawl portion. I would think about hosting ADAT2 featuring brawl as a main event if I was assured that people wouldn't ditch on the brawl and only come to the melee.

What does ADAT stand for?

I'm actually pretty sure there are probably more brawl players than melee players in Alberta. (or, those who prefer brawl over melee in any case) they just don't post on the boards.

 

[Yoshara]

What does ADAT stand for?

ADAT stands for AfterDawn and Alphican's Tournament.

 

[Spin-Dash]

Hey Brandon I heard you were good at Sonic Adventure 2: battle.

We should totally hijack a cube at a smashfest and play a couple matches. I LOVE that game.

WHO TOLD YOU AND WHEN CAN WE DO THIS SHIAT?!

Dude... Omg this is effing AWESOME! XD

What's a Smash Bros.? O_o Soniiiiiiiic.

 

[SpaceFalcon]

i had some delicous spicy food today

 

[victra♥]

The problem with hosting brawl tournies is that I feel that only half the community would participate. Of course I could host melee/brawl, but then we could run into time issues, and the people that leave or don't show up for the brawl portion. I would think about hosting ADAT2 featuring brawl as a main event if I was assured that people wouldn't ditch on the brawl and only come to the melee.

So whoever doesn't leave and doesn't come for melee is the brawl community. Deal with it. They're the ones who want play Brawl. Whoever leaves during the brawl portion or only comes for melee are obviously the ones who don't like Brawl, so why would any of them stay and play a game that they don't like. It's as simple as that.

If you don't want to host Brawl tournaments for the brawl players, then quit complaining that Alberta is so Melee biased. At victraoshi, there were brawl players who came for brawl even though the main event was melee. Since CAST4 was Melee only, I didn't expect people like Samusbrawler or Colin to show up. If you host ADAT2 as Brawl only, don't expect myself or Tyson or whoever to come.

tl;dr Host Brawl tournaments for Brawl players. Duh.

 

[Alphicans]

Uhhh... Thanks? I was giving a reason why I wouldn't host a brawl tournament. I would never want to lose money hosting a tournament. That's pretty much the point I was trying to make.

 

[Spin-Dash]

Jarret, d'you know the infinite speed-up trick in VS. mode?

Freaking awesome. That and starting City Escape on foot in VS. mode is effing awesome.

 

[victra♥]

Uhhh... Thanks? I was giving a reason why I wouldn't host a brawl tournament. I would never want to lose money hosting a tournament. That's pretty much the point I was trying to make.

You never mentioned the cost in your previous post. You mentioned that people would ditch brawl for melee. You can see why I would assume that was the problem that you were trying to address. =/

You're really undermining the Brawl community. First of all, Sherwood park is full of 'em, and there's a good number scattered around Edmonton - Calgary. You wouldn't be losing any money at all, if anything, the pot would be the thing suffering.

Whatever lol. If you Brawl players don't even want to host tournaments for the game they're so passionate about, who am I to complain.

 

[FalseFalco]

melee lovers are just bitter because the "good old days" of just melee wont exist anymore. I got over that the day brawl was announced, and although I'm not super happy about it I can deal with it.

That's the only reason alberta brawl players are being discriminated against. Brawl sucks as a game, but so does golf. And we still let golf exist.

for more information on golf click here

 

[SpaceFalcon]

I like golf. It's almost like smash except your standing instead of sitting.

 

[Spin-Dash]

And Alberta begins to divide... ._.

Call me crazy, but the main reason I'd want to host Brawl would be not just for those that do play, but for the sake of my friends (you, Carl, Dan, Jack, Levi, your bro, the list goes on) enjoying what we love too. It can't be helped if you don't like the game though, so there's not much else that I can do there.

It just saddens me that Brawl and Melee is so divided in Alberta, if anything. I mean, not everyone can like both like some people, so I'm kicking a dead horse.

I'm close with you guys, not the Brawl players who may or may not have shown their faces before. I like playing with people I know; there's just a feeling behind it that can't be replaced in contrast to most newcomers/people who aren't as in with things as we are.

... Wow, that made me sound so elitist/biased. I'm horrible. XD!

That's my beef though, really. But it's alright, and you are right in the end. If we want to host a Brawl tourney, we should.

It just will never feel the same without any of you guys being there, if you wanted the tl;dr version of what I'm saying.

 

[Alphicans]

You never mentioned the cost in your previous post. You mentioned that people would ditch brawl for melee. You can see why I would assume that was the problem that you were trying to address. =/

You're really undermining the Brawl community. First of all, Sherwood park is full of 'em, and there's a good number scattered around Edmonton - Calgary. You wouldn't be losing any money at all, if anything, the pot would be the thing suffering.

Whatever lol. If you Brawl players don't want even want to host tournaments for the game your so passionate about, who am I to complain.

If I were to host brawl again I would most likely do pools, so I doubt there would be time for melee. Sorry for the confusion. With that said, it's hard to gauge how many people would show, and I couldn't just make a thread to find out. With melee, it's pretty much safe. You're almost guaranteed to have enough people show up to pay for rental fees, and have a good pot. It's not like I don't want to host a tournament, it's that I don't think it would be worth it :\. Also I wouldn't say i am undermining, I am just not 100% sure on the number of people. So I guess I am underestimating the popularity of brawl, which wouldn't be such an absurd thing would it? At least in AB.

EDIT: Brandon also makes a good point on why we wouldn't host a brawl tournament.

 

[Spin-Dash]

I like golf. It's almost like smash except your standing instead of sitting.

I main the 1W, and I'm an expert of tippers.

Beeyotches got nutin' on mah Final Smash. I send balls to their homes. Happy Gilmore.

I'm not ashamed to admit that I have pulled one of those shots on a course.

 

[Tyson651]

actually, spindash got to the point i wanted to make before me.

even though im a melee player, i MIGHT (probs 50/50) go to a brawl only tourney just for the fun of it to be with friends. it really depends on the day too though, if its not a hassle for me then of course id go. i dont like brawl but it doesnt mean i dont like my friends.. awwwwwwwwwwwwwww

and if ur that poor. there always can be someone who can host a brawl tourney in their basement. grab a couple of tvs and host one up.

and if u tell me theres going to be too much people, THEN U HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO HOST IN A STUPID VENUE.


edit: and to respond to luke's post..

well which is why u host smashfests first, get everyone all settled, known, friendly, then HOST A TOURNEY YAY.

if they go, its like 90% sure their friends would go. then the list would be pretty accurate, probably +/- 15% max.

 

[victra♥]

I main the 1W, and I'm an expert of tippers.

lol.

I can see where you're coming from Brandon.

 

[Spin-Dash]

See, the thing is? Even Brawl only tourneys would have a Melee set-up somewhere. XD! I mean, come on, I'm crazy for Brawl but even I can't resist the call.

Thanks for understanding though, Tyson. It took me long enough to get my point across. I'm too slow. >_>;;

[EDIT]

... I just rhymed. Without meaning to. Epic win.

 

[victra♥]

See, the thing is? Even Brawl only tourneys would have a Melee set-up somewhere. XD! I mean, come on, I'm crazy for Brawl but even I can't resist the call.

Pretty much. I got a lot of Melee friendlies in at CT4 and ADAT which were definitely nice.

 

[Alphicans]

But there's too much hype for other tournies. Flatzone, CT5, Genesis... Where does ADAT2 fit in? .

Well I'll talk to Tyler about it. We'll probably come up with something soon enough.

 

[victra♥]

ADAT2 and CT5 are in the same city, so there isn't much hassle with cash etc. Perhaps you could host it as a warm up for CT5. LOL. Or around the same time, like last year.

 

[Tyson651]

well, thats where u get all ur newcomers, it'll be all hype for them.

 

[Solaris1110]

Jarret, d'you know the infinite speed-up trick in VS. mode?

Freaking awesome. That and starting City Escape on foot in VS. mode is effing awesome.

All I can think of is jumping through the pyramid in Grind race.

*starts youtubing glitches*

 

[Alphicans]

After about 30 seconds of discussion with Tyler I felt that spring break/april would be a good time for ADAT2. He thinks August. Thoughts?

 

[victra♥]

Spring break would definitely be nice. I'll probably have CAST5 in August.

 

[turtlecake]

oh my god cast5