Tyserification
Smash Lord
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ALASKA Smash Thread
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TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
i don't get that australia/new zealand/greenland one
could someone tell me?
lol
hi alaska
hi tyser
could someone tell me?
lol
hi alaska
hi tyser
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TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
thank you ryan
i would have never gotten that
i don't play WoW
i would have never gotten that
i don't play WoW
gingerbreadchar
Smash Apprentice
QFT.
But only because I just downloaded Merriweather Post Pavilion. Good ****.
Orry_watts
Smash Journeyman
Classic pic from years ago =O
Orry_watts
Smash Journeyman
Galvanotaxis
Smash Rookie
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Yes, ofcourse. I've not done any thought on teh subject myself. Interesting how I was able to formulate an argument no matter what you said, hough, admittedly, that's not difficult because in essence what you said a billion times was "niga, you wrong PERIOD".
You're right, your opinion was far more informed than mine. I utilized facts while you alluded to a book that you didn't reference at all in your argument and mentioned your psychology hobby which you didn't have references for either. Good thing i'm talking to someone who clearly "knows what they're talking about".
Good luck being taken seriously in any debate.
For the record. I don't think Arthur's stupid. He may in fact have proven to be one of the more intelligent people in the thread.
Anyway, other than Smash, until one makes it into MLG, I'm announcing a retirement from fighting games.
Mattnumbers
Smash Master
You didn't reference a single thing at all either . You were just speaking out your ***. I could reference things but I'm not exactly taking some random "debate" that I don't even really want to be a part of seriously unless you guys start making better posts.
It's the physics man! The physics!!!!!
Both of your arguments were jumbled messes.
And if you had actually read my posts I never used circular logic which you seem to think I did. I'm saying I have free will because I can choose to do things. It doesn't matter why I chose that one, I still had a choice. Sometimes people may even choose irrational things simply to defy their bodily urges.
I also stated that it is a very common view among psychologists that free will exists. I'm guessing that people with a Doctorate on the subject know more about it than you. And no I'm not going to be using references in this debate unless you decide to, which you have not so far.
I may have to post a TLDR because I think this whole thing spawned off of misunderstandings caused by unorganized arguments
It's the physics man! The physics!!!!!
Both of your arguments were jumbled messes.
And if you had actually read my posts I never used circular logic which you seem to think I did. I'm saying I have free will because I can choose to do things. It doesn't matter why I chose that one, I still had a choice. Sometimes people may even choose irrational things simply to defy their bodily urges.
I also stated that it is a very common view among psychologists that free will exists. I'm guessing that people with a Doctorate on the subject know more about it than you. And no I'm not going to be using references in this debate unless you decide to, which you have not so far.
I may have to post a TLDR because I think this whole thing spawned off of misunderstandings caused by unorganized arguments
Che_Lab
Smash Lord
I lol'd at the mind**** pics
knew about the cubone - kangaskhan thing since I had played the games
other peeps: who cares
hi SoCal
knew about the cubone - kangaskhan thing since I had played the games
other peeps: who cares
hi SoCal
Mattnumbers
Smash Master
Guys read this article, I posted it a while ago already but if you didn't read it then you should read it now. It's pretty long though, so make yourself comfortable. Here it is
DQP
Smash Ace
it's a good article. i actually read it a few months ago on the smyn (show me your news!) forums. do you really think that nintendo's gonna focus more on the hardcore audience? given that metroid other m is coming out next year, it's a yes for me.
Mattnumbers
Smash Master
I just hope they learned their lesson with Wii Music. But yes, I think they will start to target more upstream gamers.
DaemonFang
Smash Lord
Che_Lab
Smash Lord
theres a new metroid coming out? thats rated M?
this is relevant to my interests...
haha matt and dqp you can't even buy it and I can
respect your elders and maybe I'll consider buying it for you. GROW UP
this is relevant to my interests...
haha matt and dqp you can't even buy it and I can
respect your elders and maybe I'll consider buying it for you. GROW UP
DaemonFang
Smash Lord
**** caleb, i WILL buy it for you, in return for a soda....
Mattnumbers
Smash Master
It's not rated M, it's called "Metroid: Other M" -_-
It's being made by Nintendo with help from Team Ninja (Ninja Gaiden)
It's being made by Nintendo with help from Team Ninja (Ninja Gaiden)
Che_Lab
Smash Lord
well im still going to laugh at the fact that I can buy M-rated games and see R-rated movies and you can't.
legally, that is.
YO!
yalls should play starcraft with me, or give me their copy. because im lookin to prepare myself for sc2, ya dig? chyeaa
so ya smash tomorrow. my house. 2:30-11:00 be there.
and bring starcraft
legally, that is.
YO!
yalls should play starcraft with me, or give me their copy. because im lookin to prepare myself for sc2, ya dig? chyeaa
so ya smash tomorrow. my house. 2:30-11:00 be there.
and bring starcraft
Mattnumbers
Smash Master
I suck balls at starcraft but I own it so I'll play. SC2 looks really fun I used to lurk their forums.
Rina-chan
Smash Journeyman
so I think everyone should attend the melee tournament on the 14th
there are no johns really
there are no johns really
FunkMaster
Smash Journeyman
well, whatever.
we're no different from "animals," really. we ARE animals. i don't think that theres reason to think
that there is some sort of special ability that humans have that sets us so far above other species.
our sensory thingies recieve input or whatever then our bodies
react accordingly. of course it doesn't FEEL like we're automated just because of this first-person view
we're stuck with. but we're really simply organic robots. it's cool. who cares. it doesn't bother me.
there's no reason to be a human chauvinist and think we are so superior because it feels like we have
impossible ability to be free of the laws of nature and truly do what we want. thinking you're always part
of a higher, elite group is silly. if anything this gives me more respect for life seeing as humans are not
all that different from "other" animals.
and of course people are going to say that you could use lack of belief of free will to be a deadbeat or
pretty much don't do anything in life. my sister's said as much. even if she is wrong.
and i'm pretty sure that legitimate psychologists tend to NOT believe in free will.
this isn't a rare view among scientists, you know. i mean, there are even some biologists that promote the old-earth
theory and stuff. but they tend to not be taken seriously.
sometimes it feels as if people are so desperately holding on to this idea because it's some sort of sacred
thing that humans have. it really seems like a sort of narcissism to me.
and you're NOT really choosing to do things. your brain and other things are doing these things based on
what input you have recieved, nothing more. yeah. it certainly DOES feel like we are REALLY making
our decisions. it's not like we can jump out of our body and view ourselves in third person. but it's just an
illusion. like a sort of mirage or whatever.
really? I'm doing something because I want to, therefore I have free will? what a basic, poor argument.
it reminds me of arguments that creationists use, even.
we can't be 100% about anything. Yeah. I'm not 100% sure that god doesn't exist. I'm not 100% sure
that free will is false. I can't even be 100% that the chair I'm sitting on is real, and that it won't suddenly
dissappear and own me. but I can be ALMOST completely sure. and that's good enough for most. you can't
be completely sure of anything, but adopting a 50-50 agnostic stance towards eveything, like not just the
existence of supernatural nonsense, but silly things like fairies and garden knowmes is foolish. it's
obvious to see that although we can't be 100% on anything, we live on assumptions based on what is far
more likely. we go with the 99%, not the 1% possibility of something absurd happening. if people really
believed in the tiny possiblity of the absurd, people would be hesitating to do things like sitting down
because even though there is only a miniscule possibility of the chair not actually existing, we would take
that possiblity and run with it for everything just because since it's a possibility it MUST be equally valid,
right?
as for the "theory thing"
gravity is "just" a theory. germ theory is "just" a theory. evolution is "just " a theory. just about
everything in science is a "theory."
but even if it is just a "theory", i'll take that over highly improbable (but still possible, just highly unlikely)
, magical explanations for human behavior such as "free will."
there is not really much of a reason to believe that humans defy the laws of the universe just because
we're human, unless you believe in supernatural stuff and the like it's like being a nationalist and die-
hard patriot.
whatever. i'm sure there are those that could argue this far better then I. like merek, but since he's not
a fool, he's not going to.
ah well.
so friday, right? like after bowling or something? or is that not happening or something. because
appaerntly Mira said something about neon bowling to cheer everyone up.
and I'm up/ down for smash as well. YAYYYUHHZZZZ
today, too, if anyone is up/down for smash today.
cell is 907-744-1969, so text or call to let me know if ya want. and merek isn't going to the melee
tournament, by the way. uh......coolllll. i guess. not really...
WHATEVER MAN
i'll drop this subject if everyone else will. it's more fun to just be a fool and yell unintelligably, although
debating DEEP stuff has it's charms too. i mean, you're not going to change my mind, i'm not probably
going to change yours, so WHATEVER. I'll just talke with mames about this DEEP stuff. i'm probably just
talking about this out of boredom and some deep down desire to make myself look smasrt, man.
later nya.
we're no different from "animals," really. we ARE animals. i don't think that theres reason to think
that there is some sort of special ability that humans have that sets us so far above other species.
our sensory thingies recieve input or whatever then our bodies
react accordingly. of course it doesn't FEEL like we're automated just because of this first-person view
we're stuck with. but we're really simply organic robots. it's cool. who cares. it doesn't bother me.
there's no reason to be a human chauvinist and think we are so superior because it feels like we have
impossible ability to be free of the laws of nature and truly do what we want. thinking you're always part
of a higher, elite group is silly. if anything this gives me more respect for life seeing as humans are not
all that different from "other" animals.
and of course people are going to say that you could use lack of belief of free will to be a deadbeat or
pretty much don't do anything in life. my sister's said as much. even if she is wrong.
and i'm pretty sure that legitimate psychologists tend to NOT believe in free will.
this isn't a rare view among scientists, you know. i mean, there are even some biologists that promote the old-earth
theory and stuff. but they tend to not be taken seriously.
sometimes it feels as if people are so desperately holding on to this idea because it's some sort of sacred
thing that humans have. it really seems like a sort of narcissism to me.
and you're NOT really choosing to do things. your brain and other things are doing these things based on
what input you have recieved, nothing more. yeah. it certainly DOES feel like we are REALLY making
our decisions. it's not like we can jump out of our body and view ourselves in third person. but it's just an
illusion. like a sort of mirage or whatever.
really? I'm doing something because I want to, therefore I have free will? what a basic, poor argument.
it reminds me of arguments that creationists use, even.
we can't be 100% about anything. Yeah. I'm not 100% sure that god doesn't exist. I'm not 100% sure
that free will is false. I can't even be 100% that the chair I'm sitting on is real, and that it won't suddenly
dissappear and own me. but I can be ALMOST completely sure. and that's good enough for most. you can't
be completely sure of anything, but adopting a 50-50 agnostic stance towards eveything, like not just the
existence of supernatural nonsense, but silly things like fairies and garden knowmes is foolish. it's
obvious to see that although we can't be 100% on anything, we live on assumptions based on what is far
more likely. we go with the 99%, not the 1% possibility of something absurd happening. if people really
believed in the tiny possiblity of the absurd, people would be hesitating to do things like sitting down
because even though there is only a miniscule possibility of the chair not actually existing, we would take
that possiblity and run with it for everything just because since it's a possibility it MUST be equally valid,
right?
as for the "theory thing"
gravity is "just" a theory. germ theory is "just" a theory. evolution is "just " a theory. just about
everything in science is a "theory."
but even if it is just a "theory", i'll take that over highly improbable (but still possible, just highly unlikely)
, magical explanations for human behavior such as "free will."
there is not really much of a reason to believe that humans defy the laws of the universe just because
we're human, unless you believe in supernatural stuff and the like it's like being a nationalist and die-
hard patriot.
whatever. i'm sure there are those that could argue this far better then I. like merek, but since he's not
a fool, he's not going to.
ah well.
so friday, right? like after bowling or something? or is that not happening or something. because
appaerntly Mira said something about neon bowling to cheer everyone up.
and I'm up/ down for smash as well. YAYYYUHHZZZZ
today, too, if anyone is up/down for smash today.
cell is 907-744-1969, so text or call to let me know if ya want. and merek isn't going to the melee
tournament, by the way. uh......coolllll. i guess. not really...
WHATEVER MAN
i'll drop this subject if everyone else will. it's more fun to just be a fool and yell unintelligably, although
debating DEEP stuff has it's charms too. i mean, you're not going to change my mind, i'm not probably
going to change yours, so WHATEVER. I'll just talke with mames about this DEEP stuff. i'm probably just
talking about this out of boredom and some deep down desire to make myself look smasrt, man.
later nya.
Mattnumbers
Smash Master
You can straw man all you want, most of those points are ones I never made. We are talking using different definitions of the phrase "free will". I'm saying that we can make choices and that those choices stem from how we think, regardless of how we began to think that way.
Also we do have the distinction of being sentient, you must remember that. We also have the ability to use a full language, and the only animals that come close to that are Dolphins and Whales. There are actually many things that distinctly separate us from animals. We have self awareness, whereas there is no proof and not even a large amount of evidence that animals actually know that one day they will die. Sure they instinctively avoid pain, but that is exactly what pain is for.
Also please write normally if your going to make long posts.
But yeah we should just drop this now
But first I have to prove that nothing exists:
In order for something to exist, it needs to have duration. Now, the future hasn't happened yet, therefore it doesn't exist. The Past does not exist right now either. And the present is constantly changing, therefore having no duration, and not existing.
So unless either the past or future actually exists in some way, nothing exists. Except for the fact that at least one thing obviously DOES exist, "I think therefore I am" and whatnot.
And thats y tires don exits
Also we do have the distinction of being sentient, you must remember that. We also have the ability to use a full language, and the only animals that come close to that are Dolphins and Whales. There are actually many things that distinctly separate us from animals. We have self awareness, whereas there is no proof and not even a large amount of evidence that animals actually know that one day they will die. Sure they instinctively avoid pain, but that is exactly what pain is for.
Also please write normally if your going to make long posts.
But yeah we should just drop this now
But first I have to prove that nothing exists:
In order for something to exist, it needs to have duration. Now, the future hasn't happened yet, therefore it doesn't exist. The Past does not exist right now either. And the present is constantly changing, therefore having no duration, and not existing.
So unless either the past or future actually exists in some way, nothing exists. Except for the fact that at least one thing obviously DOES exist, "I think therefore I am" and whatnot.
And thats y tires don exits
Rina-chan
Smash Journeyman
As for tomorrow's plans, here's what I got from the Dimond Center website:
NEON BOWLING!!!
FRIDAY & SATURDAY - 6:45pm to 11pm
Price (per person): $4.00 a game, $1.75 shoe rental
Price (UAA / Mil ): $3.75 a game, $1.75 shoe rental
FRIDAY & SATURDAY - 6:45pm to Close
KARAOKE BOWL
NEON BOWLING!!!
FRIDAY & SATURDAY - 6:45pm to 11pm
Price (per person): $4.00 a game, $1.75 shoe rental
Price (UAA / Mil ): $3.75 a game, $1.75 shoe rental
FRIDAY & SATURDAY - 6:45pm to Close
KARAOKE BOWL
Che_Lab
Smash Lord
I skimmed arthurs post, he seems to know whatsup. I like how he makes a point to mention being both up/down for things, its annoying how people say both, lol. Something else I noticed in his post was that Derek isn't showing up to the melee tournament. I'm curious as to why and who you are going to team with Arthur. I would naturally assume you would team with him; which is something I was upset about.
@kira: you're right. show up to the MEEEE LEEEE not maylay tournament on the 14th. no johns.
also me and matt were discussing video game genre tier list (relevant to your interests, not others, general or profit) and yall should post yours. heres mine
Top
Tactical RPG (FFTactics, Advance Wars, Fire Emblem)
Smash
MMO RPG (WoW,Everquest Maplestory nevermind, only WoW deserves top tier and a pokemon mmorpg if it ever happens OMG I WOULD PLAY THE **** OUT OF THAT)
Epic RPG (Later Final Fantasies/Dragon Quest, any JRPG basically.
High
RTS (Starcraft/Warcraft/RedAlert/DotA(sorta))
Adventure games (Legend of Zelda series, Metroid, Okami)
Tactical Shooters (CSS, Ghost Recon, Splinter Cell?)
FPS (Halo, all the other FPS games ever made)
(Zombie) Survival/Horror games (Resident Evil , Fatal Frame, Silent Hill)
Mid
Puzzle games
Fighting games that aren't Smash
Platformers (Mario, Sonic, Rayman type games)
GTA-like games
Low
Sports games
Racing games
Party games*
Bottom
Learning games
Hentai games
Fitness games
* Mario party would be high tier
@kira: you're right. show up to the MEEEE LEEEE not maylay tournament on the 14th. no johns.
also me and matt were discussing video game genre tier list (relevant to your interests, not others, general or profit) and yall should post yours. heres mine
Top
Tactical RPG (FFTactics, Advance Wars, Fire Emblem)
Smash
MMO RPG (WoW,
Epic RPG (Later Final Fantasies/Dragon Quest, any JRPG basically.
High
RTS (Starcraft/Warcraft/RedAlert/DotA(sorta))
Adventure games (Legend of Zelda series, Metroid, Okami)
Tactical Shooters (CSS, Ghost Recon, Splinter Cell?)
FPS (Halo, all the other FPS games ever made)
(Zombie) Survival/Horror games (Resident Evil , Fatal Frame, Silent Hill)
Mid
Puzzle games
Fighting games that aren't Smash
Platformers (Mario, Sonic, Rayman type games)
GTA-like games
Low
Sports games
Racing games
Party games*
Bottom
Learning games
Hentai games
Fitness games
* Mario party would be high tier
Mattnumbers
Smash Master
I can't make it to the tourney unless someone picks me up from ER. I'll pay for gas money and everything.
Che_Lab
Smash Lord
quoting for my signature to pop up
it usually shows when i quote
edit: what the ****
DaemonFang
Smash Lord
someone gimme a summary of wtf happened. everyones post was TL;DR
Xanskar
Smash Lord
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yea h
Che_Lab
Smash Lord
ok i guess theres not melee at my house tomorrow
instead im going to matt savages to play unless someone will pay for me to go to bowling since i have no money - i can provide burritos+sandwhiches at my house for payment
instead im going to matt savages to play unless someone will pay for me to go to bowling since i have no money - i can provide burritos+sandwhiches at my house for payment
Fullmetal Mario
Smash Rookie
Hay gaiz I herd ther wuz smash in alaska?
DaemonFang
Smash Lord
caleb, my tier list of games
Top Tier
Barbie horse adventures
high tier
everything i play
bottom tier
everything i dont play
WHOA its full metal! wassup?!
FYI, ive added cho and Ian to the 1st page roster. guys let me know if u want anything changed like ur secondaries or w.e
ive also moved kazu to wassilla.
Top Tier
Barbie horse adventures
high tier
everything i play
bottom tier
everything i dont play
WHOA its full metal! wassup?!
FYI, ive added cho and Ian to the 1st page roster. guys let me know if u want anything changed like ur secondaries or w.e
ive also moved kazu to wassilla.
Fullmetal Mario
Smash Rookie
I thought it wise to rejoin these forums.
It's been....roughly 6 years or so.
It's been....roughly 6 years or so.
Mattnumbers
Smash Master
Well at some point we are going bowling, but Matt Savage's seems like a fine place to go to me.
DaemonFang
Smash Lord
as u can see, theres philosophical talk (me and both matts) and then theres bull**** (james and arthur) and then theres just plain dumb****s (brad/spacingout)
anyways, ya like i said, uve been added to the Smashers Roster on the 1st page
anyways, ya like i said, uve been added to the Smashers Roster on the 1st page
Fullmetal Mario
Smash Rookie
Ah, it hasn't changed much. XD
I'll get my other chars. posted when I get back from work tonight.
I'll get my other chars. posted when I get back from work tonight.
DaemonFang
Smash Lord
Also everyone, ive updated the front page with quotes next to everyones name! check them out!
DaemonFang
Smash Lord
fine, wtf do you want then?