Absolute Wingdashing a (Work in progress)

[Lezard]

Absolute Wingdash


This techique is very effective against multihitters ideally went your opponent back turn to edge this can also lead to a stage spike

The List of characters this work against

Mario- Jabs, Utilt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctH2oiqiz9k

Kirby- Jabs, Utilt

Fox- Jabs, Utilt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF51iGKJBm4

Game&Watch- Jabs

Diddy Kong- Jabs, Utilts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PbnGv_V8V4

Shierk- Jabs, Utilt, Ftilt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayEvdxTUdf8

Pit- Jabs, Utilt

Metaknight- Jabs

Falco- Jabs

Peach not sure

Kingddd- fast Jabs, slow Jabs
http://www.youtube.com/my_videos?pi=0&ps=20&sf=added&sa=0&sq=Jabs&dm=1

sonic- fast Jabs, not sure only slow Jabs

Wario- Jabs

RoB not sure

olimar not sure

Captain falcon- Jabs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmXqCZ7ZPEA

Jiglly Puff- Jabs

 

[Admiral Pit]

Now I will explain how to Wingdash, for the newer Pits around.

This is how you perform it with the Gamecube controller:

SH Up-B to D-air
Short-hop Up-B (Wings of Icarus) to Down-Air (for those who are not familiar with some abbreviations)

How I perform it (Gamecube controller)
Tap X or Y to jump, quickly use Up-B on a low "hover" above ground (not where Pit is completely on the ground though), then C-stick down to perform Down Air.

Perhaps this should help the Pits out, but remember that they should start by mastering the basics before going to Pit ATs (Advanced Techniques), as Rogue once told me.

 

[Lezard]

Now I will explain how to Wingdash, for the newer Pits around.

This is how you perform it with the Gamecube controller:

SH Up-B to D-air
Short-hop Up-B (Wings of Icarus) to Down-Air (for those who are not familiar with some abbreviations)

How I perform it (Gamecube controller)
Tap X or Y to jump, quickly use Up-B on a low "hover" above ground (not where Pit is completely on the ground though), then C-stick down to perform Down Air.

Perhaps this should help the Pits out, but remember that they should start by mastering the basics before going to Pit ATs (Advanced Techniques), as Rogue once told me.

yeah in others words they must feel out windasging first, rather seeing it as just separate move but together they must see as one. went persons ask me how to wingdash and i have explaint it i sometime wonder if its really so much move put togther

 

[Afropony]

Looking good so far hope and a really good idea.
Also I saw the 3rd video (the one where you were fighting the falco) where you glided of the edge to kill yourself lol why did you do that or do you just have trouble with gliding?

 

[Lezard]

Nah, classic controller, i try to do i a glide shift back

 

[Riku00]

Ummm... its just a wingdash that was used at the right time. wingdash renders alot of attacks useless, such as Ganon's warlock kick. It completely removes the hitbox for that attack even if Ganon is touching you. Why you call it absolute wingdash, i have no idea. But keep this thread going so people can know what to use wingdash against, and not to use against. Your doing a good job, keep it up.

 

[Lezard]

Why you call it absolute wingdash, i have no idea.

Lol, the reason why i call it Absolute wingdash is because i dont believe a absolute Knowleage thereofore i dont believe in a absolute attack but i dont believe in absolute defense however. in a situation where every move that a character can use is render useless by windash make it an absolute defence hence the name Absolute Winsdash i guess this what i was thinking

 

[ADN]

mmm are better the quarter to move back the opponent

 

[Riku00]

Lol, the reason why i call it Absolute wingdash is because i dont believe a absolute Knowleage thereofore i dont believe in a absolute attack but i dont believe in absolute defense however. in a situation where every move that a character can use is render useless by windash make it an absolute defence hence the name Absolute Winsdash i guess this what i was thinking

Oh okay. Good to see your continuing this thread. Keep it up because i'll be coming here for advice often. I need to know which characters moves this works best on and which moves it doesn't.

 

[ADN]

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[ExCeL 52]

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[Riku00]

Spam iiiiiiii

You shouldn't even be in here! You should be in the Peach threads, so stay the f*** out!


@ Lezard: Good job so far dude. This is really helping me out.

 

[Afropony]

That Wingdash against the Donkey Kong is crazy!
I really hope you complete this guide, I'm learning new places to use it all the time

 

[Admiral Pit]

Pit's Wingdash game is improving as you give us information. I'll be looking forward to using some of these to balance my options.
And also the Wingdash can stop another Pit's Angel Ring, just in case one of you face those kind of spammers. You need good timing however.

 

[Valuno]

This is interesting, Im testing it out and I like what I'm seeing. I was skeptical at first, because the first videos it seemed extreeeemely situational, but with these new videos, I can see that it's fairly adaptable lol. Very nice

 

[madival]

I believe pits wingdash will mess with lucas's and ness's Ub attack. Seen a few people lose stock to a well times wingdash/push

 

[Admiral Pit]

Pit's Up-B messes up Ness' Up-B, but I wouldnt risk it on Lucas' and it's properties. You can shoot it with an arrow instead.

 

[Sgt. Pit]

this is a great thread with useful and good info, i will keep this in mind v.s certain characters, thanks :D

 

[xoxokev]

Absolule Wingdash

lol am i the only one that noticed this typo?

 

[Sgt. Pit]

o lawl your right lol, see the pit forums need a little help once in awhile XD

 

[Lezard]

Hey guys, this the starting point of Pit absolute wingdash, Check out the captainfacon Jabs, i can easily escape them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyUH5lvyvdo

 

[arm]

Im sorry, but the vids wont load properly on my computer for some reason (sound is out of sync), and your english is a little hard for me to understand. Could someone explain this whole thing to me?

Again, no offense about your english, its just Im having trouble piecing it all together, and not knowing what your talking about to begin with isnt too helpful...

 

[Lezard]

Im sorry, but the vids wont load properly on my computer for some reason (sound is out of sync), and your english is a little hard for me to understand. Could someone explain this whole thing to me?

Again, no offense about your english, its just Im having trouble piecing it all together, and not knowing what your talking about to begin with isnt too helpful...

I will try to explain

however what part u can't understand?

 

[Lezard]

My Wingdash games is improving, i am alot bitter than before.
What about you guys?

 

[Phaigne]

I still rarely use it. Sorry, I don't see it as all that useful... But prove me wrong!

 

[CorruptFate]

Right after the MK Dtilt vid, you have one that says shrik and it has the same vid as the MK Dtilt.

 

[Lezard]

Right after the MK Dtilt vid, you have one that says shrik and it has the same vid as the MK Dtilt.

thanks Corruptfate

 

[Cherry64]

Lolzz I'll be posting in this place for quiet a while as my secondary is Pit but this AT is Friggne intence I've got to learn/master this your Info helps a lot guys thank you and more would be much appreciated

 

[Lezard]

I still rarely use it. Sorry, I don't see it as all that useful... But prove me wrong!

Take a look at this match Phaigne, i use wingdash to keep the pace of the match and u say that this tech isn't usefull
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vlLbI7pe9c

 

[arm]

I will try to explain

however what part u can't understand?

Its not just understanding the concept, but the broken grammar and typos make it difficult for me to keep track. Im really sorry, I dont mean any offense by it, but its the cold hard truth...

SORRY! ;_;

 

[Arzengel]

Wow this thread is awesome, but i have a problem. I'm able to perform the wing dash, but my pit seems to have about 1 second of la animation, as he kneels to the ground.

 

[Afropony]

Wow this thread is awesome, but i have a problem. I'm able to perform the wing dash, but my pit seems to have about 1 second of la animation, as he kneels to the ground.

It's likely that instead of using a Dair you are using a Fair or a Bair instead. This gives some lag and also makes Pit look as though he is kneeling down.

 

[TsNmi]

I also have a problem with wingdashing. I can perform it pretty well but my consistancy is weak. I use my Y button for B(special) so i can execute wingashing in one fluid motion, howver i sometimes go slightly late making my wing dashing SLOWER than pros or i just dont wing cancel at all. Should i switch to using the B button for Special or stick with Y and keep working at it. BTW i find if i use the B button for special it's faster, if i get the timing down corectly.

 

[Arzengel]

It's likely that instead of using a Dair you are using a Fair or a Bair instead. This gives some lag and also makes Pit look as though he is kneeling down.

Yup i figured that's the case.

 

[Lezard]

yup just practice it will come naturally

 

[Suyon]

Well for those that have trouble landing with wingdashing maybe you should try using the c-stick. And sorry if posting this since last post was a month ago.

 

[Arzengel]

I haven't really mastered this, and have a touney coming up ths saturday. However i really don't see how this can be useful, i mean. Isn't i better to just shield or side-dodge?

 

[Lezard]

I haven't really mastered this, and have a touney coming up ths saturday. However i really don't see how this can be useful, i mean. Isn't i better to just shield or side-dodge?

yeah its really usefull if you know went to do sometime shielding is good but side dodge doesnt really make any sense. you will soon see just wait for my vid Dash dash go wingdash part 2