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a practical way to lose fat

GhostAnime

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i want some advice here. for starters, i'm not exactly 'fat' but i want to remove all of what's left in some areas. my question is.. what's the practical way?

this may be a stupid question but i've heard all kinds of things online and i'm hoping perhaps someone who may even have first-person experience.

first, what do i eat? second, does any cardio exercise matter? because i have accessibility problems and well, i just want whatever's the easiest and is effective. i cant go out getting handy dandy recipes i whatnot. i just want something fresh and easy.

as for exercising.. yeah, i dont expect anything too complicated.

if anybody wants to know some things:

BMR: ~2000 calories
height: 5'9"
weight: 153-154
age: 18
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TigerWoods

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i want some advice here. for starters, i'm not exactly 'fat' but i want to remove all of what's left in some areas. my question is.. what's the practical way?

this may be a stupid question but i've heard all kinds of things online and i'm hoping perhaps someone who may even have first-person experience.

first, what do i eat? second, does any cardio exercise matter? because i have accessibility problems and well, i just want whatever's the easiest and is effective. i cant go out getting handy dandy recipes i whatnot. i just want something fresh and easy.

as for exercising.. yeah, i dont expect anything too complicated.

if anybody wants to know some things:

BMR: ~2000 calories
height: 5'9"
weight: 153-154
age: 18
male
haha i used to be obese... now I am an athelete on my school's varsity lacrosse team!(no lie)


There is no quick fix to anything, I will tell you that. Find an exercise plan that works with your scheduel and has a form of cardio, pylometrics, streteching and strength training in it. Cardio is not necessary, but it speeds up the process. Stationary bike? Treadmill? Pool?

Eating food shouldn't really matter, as long as you don't eat too much crap food(candy etc.) Never eat a salad alone, the nutrients are fat soluble, so you actualy need fat too loose weight!

Now the secret is you must enjoy what your doing, or at least you must get pumped up for it. Don't loose weight to "loose weight". You are exercising because it is fun, healthy, and something to do for the rest of your life. Find an exercise plan that you enjoy, or do it with your friends with etc. It also greatly helps to write down your goals, or have someone hang around you forcing you to do something if you ever feel lazy about it.
Hope that helps.
 

SuperBowser

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What do you eat at the moment? It's easier to edit your current diet than to start eating totally new foods imo. I know a few basic things.

No fizzy drinks or fruit juices. Pointless sugar and calories.
Don't have full fat milk. Unnecessary extra fat.
Less junkfood - pizza, chips, crisps, chocolate etc.
Less cheese. High in saturated fat.
Try and get wholegrain bread instead of white.
Don't force yourself to have tiny meals, then end up snacking on junkfood later on in the day.
Starving yourself won't help. It just makes your body store more fat when it does get food so eat properly.
Eat a lot more fruit and vegetables. They fill you up and are tasty healthy snacks.

the easiest exercise you can get is simply picking up a new sport.

I don't do many of these things but I've learnt all this stuff from friends... :laugh:
 

Talazala

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First-person expierience? Well I've always been fairly good when it comes to fitness, but anyways,

I tell ya wut ya do! You watch teh Olympics, get jealous, and frickin go on one of dem rampages... hehe joking. but seriously watch the Olympics.

Do you live in a city? If you do, walk everywhere as long as it's in the city and isn't ridiculously far away. That means pretty much everything under a 30 min walk is legit. Find a series of food that is lighter and you enjoy, but don't eat to much of them. Eat reasonably sized meals, and replace foods that have a more healthy substitute.
 

Johnthegalactic

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Cardio exercise matters!

Just try and get some running exercise going, jog, ya know. Exercises specific to an area do not work, so sit ups don't make a flabby belly go away.
I am not a fan of diets, rather, exercise seems to be the best solution, which could be made more effective with a good diet.
 

The Fail Tracer

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Exercise regularly. Keep track of the calories you eat in your food. If you have eaten too many calories, you need to work them off by the end of the day.

You also shouldn't eat before going to bed. If you go to sleep right after eating, you can't work off those calories.
 

arcane9211

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Drop me a pm if you want to talk over AIM, I can help you out on this weight loss issue. I can also direct to you to a few respectable sources of mine if need be.
 

Jazzy Jinx

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Drop me a pm if you want to talk over AIM, I can help you out on this weight loss issue. I can also direct to you to a few respectable sources of mine if need be.
Don't listen to this guy!

Drop ME a pm if you want to talk over AIM. We can arrange a meeting in a dark, back alley.

Bring lube.
 

Talazala

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I wish i could gain weight I'm only 80 pounds :[
What you need to do is smash every mirror in your house. Wait, not yet, how old are you? If your over 13, then nevermind, go and smash those mirrors.


Don't listen to this guy!

Drop ME a pm if you want to talk over AIM. We can arrange a meeting in a dark, back alley.

Bring lube.
That reminds me of a very fun form of excersise.... jk
 

Nitrix

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When I was a child my parents basically forced me to be healthy. I am really thankful now though, because all of those habits have stayed and I'm really fit. This is basically what I do.


- Exercise, go for walks etc. You don't have to go crazy, you just have to exercise a few times a week. Try to find something you enjoy doing to make you forget about the fact that you're tired. I started karate, and when I would spar I would forget about how tired I was. In the end I was a sweaty, nasty mess and the best part is that I didn't even notice all the work I was doing. Also, exercising with other people helps a ton too.


- Eat lots of healthy snacks to avoid eating large meals all at once. This prevents your stomach from stretching and helps your body with a constant stream of nutrients. It is alot easier to get your 5 fruits/vegetables daily when you use them as small snacks.


- DRINK WATER. Drink lots and lots of water. This is one of the best tips because it doesn't only help you lose weight, but it improves other aspects as well. For lunch and dinner you should pour yourself a large glass of water. You may not think you will drink it all, but you'd be suprised how much you will drink when it is right in front of you. It also helps with digestion. Also, stay away from any liquids other than milk and fruit juices. Everything else is pretty much trash.


- When shopping at the supermarket, shop on the outside rim of shelves. Thats where the healthy food is. The center shelves have foods that take forever to expire, which should tell you something. If a twinkie is good for years, take a guess at how many preservitives it has


- Eat a healthy breakfast! Breakfast is the most important part of your day! I usually eat cereal with yogurt on the side and some fruit. A good start to your day sets you up for success.
 

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^ Yeah that's true. My mom is skinny and I'm skinny and I eat a lot of unhealthy 'crap' but I never gain more than a few pounds a year. My muscles seem to gain definition easily too, after a few days of 10 minute work outs [push ups, sit ups, lifting dumb bells] I could see [small] muscles forming. I don't think I'll ever be buff but I'll have a lot of tone and definition to my muscles for sure.

That might change when I get older but right now I'm as thin as ever.
 

L3thal

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If you can do it, a good quick weight loss/bulk diet is:

Breakfast: Porridge/Oatmeal/Special K in that order of preference
Lunch: Pasta w/ tuna and beans.
Dinner: If you can do the first two then it doesnt really matter what you have here, maybe something with a bit of fat in it to help your workout but obv not too much.

Snack on fruit/beans if you get peckish, beans (and the tuna) are an essential source of protein for exercise.

Before you go to bed and after you wake up you should be doing 100-200 crunches and 30-50 press ups, you will really notice the toning after abount 1-2 months of doing this.

For cardio jogging is good. Its MUCH more benificial if you can integrate 30 seconds of sprinting for every 1-2 mins of jogging. Thats what professionals do, it keeps the body guessing and overall is better for you. If you can get a skipping rope, doing 30 mins of skipping is also really good for you. When you get tired just jog on the spot till you feel like you could resume, still keeps the body moving and thus losing weight. Do this daily if you can.

If you can find a hobby such as soccer/swimming/badminton or even a dance class (you wouldnt believe how many calories just 30 mins of breakdancing burns) then this will help make exercising fun and in some cases will help you socially as well. Doing this a few times a week will speak volumes.

As mentioned before DRINK LOTS OF WATER, im talking like 5-8 glasses a day. Not only does this keep you hydrated for exercise, if you have any spots or any other skin problems this is probably the best cleanser along with moisturiser (moisturiser is essential if you have stretches in the skin due to losing a lot of weight in a short amount of time).

If you go out nd get wasted try and do more dancing than drinking, heh. And if your hangover permits it, hit a gym the next day to work it off. This is a good tip anytime you find yourself having gone a bit overboard with unhealthy foods.
 

Dastrn

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Everyone is giving you either ******** advice (like "stop eating dairy") or suggesting a menu that only includes 3 meals a day (which is NOT ideal at all), or just throwing out blanket statements like (eat less, exercise more.)

I'm on a hardcore workout regimen, and have a retardedly strict diet. I know the science behind what makes all this work.

The only way lose weight is to eat less calories than your body burns. If you know your BMR (base metabolic rate), work out a diet that includes the things I tell you, and adds up to 300-500 less calories per day than what you are burning. If your BMR is 2000, and you do exercises that day that add up to 400 calories burned (shouldn't take more than an hour), then you should be eating between 1900-2100 calories in that day. If you do so, (THIS IS SCIENCE) you WILL LOSE WEIGHT.

One of your goals needs to be to increase your base metabolic rate. If you could make your body naturally burn an extra 1000 calories a day while you are just sitting around, that means you could eat even more nutritious food and STILL LOSE WEIGHT. Cool, huh?

How do you do that? By building muscle, eating more meals per day, and making each meal smaller than what you would usually eat in a 3-meal-per-day system.

1. Building Muscle: Your muscles naturally consume so many calories per pound of muscle per hour, just while you are sitting around doing nothing. I'm sitting here typing on my laptop, burning calories like crazy. My BMR is near 3000 calories right now, and I'm only 187.2 pounds (weighed myself like 8 minutes ago). The reason I'm burning so many calories per hour (like 120-140 per hour just sitting around) is because I stopped trying to LOSE WEIGHT, and started trying to LOOK HEALTHIER. I've lost pounds in fat, and I've gained pounds in MUSCLE. I look WAY BETTER than I did 6 months ago, even though I've gained 3 pounds since then. My waist has dropped 3-4 inches, and yet I weigh more. Muscle is heavier than fat.

The point is if you build muscle, your body will burn calories quicker, meaning you can burn fat quicker. One pound of fat is about 3000 calories worth of energy. When you are eating 300 less calories per day than you are burning, you will burn 1 pound of fat every 10 days. 3 pounds of fat a month. 18 pounds of fat in 6 months. 36 pounds of fat in one year. (assuming a person had that much fat to lose. You probably don't.)

2. Eat more meals per day:
For some reason, we have accepted a standard that says we should eat 3 square meals per day, and call it a healthy diet. You need to know that this is not true at all. When we eat all of our calories in 3 meals, that divides up (for you) to be about 700 calories in one sitting, 3 times a day. If you aren't burning 700 calories between breakfast and lunch (you aren't), then those calories don't just chillax in your stomach until you need them. They get stored or wasted. If the calories were from fat (1/3 or more are/should be) then they get stored as fat. That's fat you have to burn off later. This is not good.

If you eat 6 meals a day instead of 3, you will only be consuming 300-400 calories per meal. Your body can much more easily process that many calories at a time.

What's great about 6 meals per day is that you will get used to eating smaller portions. You will stop overeating because you will never quite let your stomach get empty. You will stop overeating, because you know you have another meal coming in 2-3 hours. You will not be used to having huge portions, and your stomach will feel full earlier. This is good.

Your body will be used to a constant stream of healthy calories pouring in all day, and in response, your BMR increases. (it's much more complicated than that, but the results are all that matters for you.)

Menu:

Breakfast: Protein Shake
1 banana
1 small handful of mixed berries (frozen is convenient)
3/4 cup milk
1/4 cup OJ
1 scoop whey protein (buy it at walmart. it's not that expensive and REALLY HELPS!)
1/2 tray of ice cubes
4 tablespoons of yogurt (ANY Yogurt you want, just pick lowfat/nonfat to reduce calories if you need to. I like lowfat strawberry yogurt here.)

Blend it all in a blender.

You will not believe how much energy you have after a breakfast like this. You will feel so energized (especially if you are exercising 4-5 days a week.)

Brunch: Pasta and Chicken

You can prepare this ahead of time, and keep it refrigerated and then just serve out whatever portion you want.

Boil whole grain pasta noodles. Drain the water, and put them in a sealable container. Mix in a few tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil. Add black pepper and whatever seasoning you like. I use italian seasoning. Just don't use salt if you can avoid it, since it will make you retain more water, and you'll end up feeling bloated, which will make you not want to work out.

Then grill some chicken, seasoned however you like. I grill mine on a flat pan, but you can use a grill outside, or bake it or whatever you want really.

Chop up the chicken, and mix it with the pasta noodles.

Then eat it.

You will get used to not having sauce slopped all over it after like 2 days, and you will find out that food actually tastes good, and you will wonder why you always added so much salt and sauce and gravy to everything before.

Lunch: SALAD

Seriously, make the biggest salad you can eat. Add anything green to it that you like. I like to buy "spring mix" salad pre-bagged at walmart, and add chopped walnut, dried cranberries, and feta cheese to it, then use light raspberry vinaigrette to it. It is the tastiest salad ever, and it's healthy.

If that doesn't turn out to be your favorite, make a big iceberg lettuce salad, chop cucumber, onion, green pepper, carrots,.....whatever veggies you want on it. I even add grapes (chopped in half) sometimes.

Check your dressings and make sure that the sodium isn't out of control. Don't fret about fat too much. Usually the fat isn't trans fat, which is what you SHOULD AVOID. If you are trying to cut weight, it might be best to avoid ranch dressing and go with a light italian instead. I don't have to be picky, since I'm actually trying to add about 10 pounds.

Dinner: Go with whatever fits your family/routine/lifestyle. Just avoid prepackaged food (junk food is obvious, but also TV dinners are BAD. skip the hotpockets...in fact, if you are microwaving it, you should come up with something better.)

Supper: Yeah, that's right. You get both. I like to make this meal something rather small. Sometimes I do oatmeal. Sometimes I do a bowl of cereal (Honey bunches of Oats is EXCELLENT. Tasty, and nutritious. Multi-grain cheerios are also great.) Either way, get some fiber in this meal, and maybe some more fruit. I often end up having another salad, or a tuna sandwich in this meal.

The point for dinner and supper is just to make sure you are choosing generally healthy foods, keep your sodium intake down (hard to do with prepackaged american food), and make sure you are aware of your calories, so you can count them and lose weight.

If you have to cut one of your meals, make it one of these 2.

Post workout: PWO Shake or Eggs
Most people get in their best workout in the evening, so you need to make sure to eat after you exercise. The single most important thing to do in this meal is to make sure you have plenty of protein. You should be shooting for like 50 grams of protein in just this meal.

I recommend another whey protein shake, but this one can be more simple.
1-2 scoops whey protein
3 tablespoons yogurt
1 cup milk

Don't bother blending it. Next to the whey protein at walmart, you'll find a mixer/container that you can mix your drink in by shaking it for 30-40 seconds, and drink straight from that.

If whey doesn't sound appetizing after you workout, you should try frying some eggs. I usually will have 2-3 large eggs, and I'll just scramble them in a pan. you don't need to add milk. I keep diced onion and diced green pepper frozen in a baggie for my eggs. When the eggs are almost done, add a handful of each to the eggs, and sprinkle some black pepper on it as well. Then, right before you take the eggs off the heat, add some shredded cheese(optional, if you are needing to cut calories, cut them here.)

eat. if you have room for some more calories, throw your eggs on top of some of that pasta and chicken.

A few thoughts:
Drink at least 60 ounces of water per day. AT LEAST. I actually drink close to 100 ounces of water per day. I always feel close to full, which means I never get hungry, which means I never eat junk cause i'm so hungry.

Remove ALL soda/pop from your diet. You don't need it. It's REALLY bad for you. It wrecks your immune system and CLOGS up your body with high fructose corn syrup, which does not break down well at all in your body. It's like adding molasses to a swimming pool and asking michael phelps to swim in it. It slows everything down, and makes your body less efficient.

Speaking of high fructose corn syrup, scan your labels of all your favorite foods and cut as much of it as possible if it has this sweetener in it. Don't be afraid of aspartame. it's not as bad for you as you've heard. But don't take that as a license to drink diet soda. it's BAD for you too.

If you must snack (which usually means you are missing a meal) snack on trail mix, sunflower seeds, or granola bars.

With a caloric deficient diet of 300-500 calories per day, with a healthy balance of fat, carbs, and protein (1/4 calories from fat, 1/4 from carbs, 1/2 from protein works really well), and regular exercise of any kind, you will have good results.

Epic long post, but I hope this helps. Fitness is a passion of mine. I love sharing the knowledge.
 

L3thal

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I hope you arent implying that it was me that suggested the 3 meals a day. You'll notice i recommended in between snacks. Dont assume you are the only person giving out helpful suggestions here because you're not....
 

Overload

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Well I wouldn't call this a practical way to lose fat, but an interesting fact. When you think hard you burn 1.5 calories per minute with your brain as opposed to a tenth of a calorie per minute when not thinking hard.
 

Rusty Shacklefurd

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One of the things I love about these types of threads is how just about everything people recommend often has other people telling you to avoid it at all costs(milk/juice/fruit(I've known people that think fruit is generally bad for you)).
Your post has me salivating.

One thing(long thing) to say about your comment about avoiding foods containing high-fructose corn syrup. As you may have figured it out by now, artificial flavour is not a chemical name, there are tons of different complicated substances that all get labelled as simply that. High-fructose corn syrup has a similar method of labelling. There's 3 different typs of HFCS, and all of them are usually listed as either glucose-fructose or fructose-glucose because that's really all it's composed of. According to most studies, the only issue with HFCS in relation to regular cane sugar(sucrose) is that it contains 10% more fructose than sucrose does(in HFCS 55, not HFCS 42 which is used in baked goods like bread or cereals). So the only real downside of HFCS is that it's like your eating slightly more sugar(the slightly worse part of the sugar).

tl;dr, you're better off scanning labels for lower sugar content than nitpicking about the chemical makeup of the sugar used because the difference is slight, and it's probably just going to be HFCS anyways because it's cheaper to use.
 

Dastrn

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I hope you arent implying that it was me that suggested the 3 meals a day. You'll notice i recommended in between snacks. Dont assume you are the only person giving out helpful suggestions here because you're not....

No, you gave out lots of helpful suggestions.
interval cardio
skipping rope
drinking lots of water
finding fun hobbies/sports to keep you motivated
exercising socially
avoiding alcohol

I never meant to imply that you didn't give out helpful suggestions. But it is important for people to know that 3 meals a day is not a good way to lose weight because it keeps your BMR down a little bit. You can pick it up by 5-10% by just eating more meals.

One of the things I love about these types of threads is how just about everything people recommend often has other people telling you to avoid it at all costs(milk/juice/fruit(I've known people that think fruit is generally bad for you)).
Don't let anyone tell you that natural foods are bad for you. Fruit provides you with the healthiest sugars (carbs) you can possibly get. They are generally loaded with vitamins.

I would guess that the people who are saying don't eat fruit are the no carb diet people, since their goal is to remove natural energy from their body so it eats itself.

You should know that no carb diets are effective for dropping fat, but it comes at a cost. Most people report really low energy levels, which makes it difficult to exercise well. they also generally report strong feelings of hunger because they reduce their caloric intake a bit too low. They experience headaches and general pain at a higher level than is comfortable for most people.

But they DO burn fat quickly. There's no arguing with that. A buddy of mine went from 300 to 245 in just like 2 months on a no carb diet. BUT, it's not a healthy way to burn all that fat. He's not a HEALTHY 245, he's just a smaller version of a big guy. He was lacking all those nutrients he should have been getting in grains and fruits, and that will effect his mental capacity, his sleep, his ability to focus in meetings, his focus during driving...It's just not a good place to be physically. I'd prefer to burn fat in a more balanced and healthy way than that.

Common sense goes a long way in fitness, and common sense tells you to eat foods like apples, oranges, and whole grains.

Regarding dairy, a popular myth is that the human digestive system has not gotten used to dairy products yet, since we've only been eating them for a few hundred thousand years, or something like that. Don't buy into it. The human growth process has naturally included milk in the infancy stage, only we get it from our mothers instead of cows. This milk is packed with fat, carbs and protein, designed to help us get stronger, fast.

Cow Milk is similar,although not identical, to human milk. It's got more sodium and protein, and less essential fatty acids. It's usually enriched with calcium, which is an easy to miss nutrient in lots of people's diets (good sources of calcium include broccoli, oranges, and almonds). All around, it's got plenty of nutrients that your body needs and won't get easily in other foods. There's no reason to pass on it, unless you are lactose intolerant.
 

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Before you go to bed and after you wake up you should be doing 100-200 crunches and 30-50 press ups, you will really notice the toning after abount 1-2 months of doing this.
This is so true, I seriously recommend it to anyone looking for some good exercise. And if you really want to lose weight I highly recommend the gym, I know it's not what you want to hear but if you get yourself into a routine it becomes so easy.
 

L3thal

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I love the gym. Its just a pity all the gyms i used to go to have closed down and the one remaining one would cost me $220 to get in then a further $80 a month......

I focus mainly on weightlifting, skipping, jogging, running, press ups, crunches, squats, badminton, football, swimming and breakdancing as my main sources of exercise.

Someone should effectively just make this the 'Official Guide to weightloss/bulking' thread cos theres a lot of good information being thrown around.
 
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