Social 7th Heaven - Cloud Social Thread

[JesseMcCloud]

I'm not a fan of Finishing Touch. It's a great option for an early stock. I have very little success with it -- I tend to get hit out of the animation before Cloud even raises his sword.

The aerial version'a hitbox extends above Cloud, I believe, which is why so many people are using up tilt to combo into it.

 

[Hanku Hirru]

I'll try it. I've found more success with LB Cross Slash or just holding onto my LB charge and force my opponent to get super jumpy/impatient and I punish them for it.

 

[Tito Maas]

So apparently a dude named Tweek beat Nairo's ZSS in a Grand Finals yesterday with Cloud.

Hey, now. Don't go comparing Falcon to Little Mac.
Falcon actually takes some skill.
Signed, a salty Cloud main with a Falcon secondary.

Falcon takes more skill than Little Mac? I have to disagree there; Falcon is the most pick-up-and-go character in the game.

 

[JesseMcCloud]

Falcon takes more skill than Little Mac? I have to disagree there; Falcon is the most pick-up-and-go character in the game.

First, let me qualify: I'm talking about For Glory, Final Destination only.
That said, yes, THE Captain Falcon has considerable speed and power. But he also has a rather predictable recovery, and a lot of laggy moves. And he requires a lot of precise spacing to get the most out of him.
Yes, Mac's recovery is the worst in the game. But he's very fast, both in terms of movement and attacks, and his super armor is ridiculous. Finally, his KO punch can be hit- confirmed from jab and dtilt. Final Destination just plays to his strengths. When in doubt, just smash.

 

[kAffo]

Merry Christmas to everyone who celebrates it here!
Hope you all have a wonderful day!
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[BlueX]

Someone actually beaten Nairos ZSS with Cloud?! I think Cloud has a high chance to be top tier now. I might possibly make him my actual main.

 

[ArcanaXIII]

Very beautiful set with Tweek repping Cloud nation and putting in work against Nairo.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Merry Christmas to everyone who celebrates it here!
Hope you all have a wonderful day!
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♪Jingle spells, Sephiroth smells, Cloud's tears will be shed, he dressed up as girl, then he spinned and twirled but Tifa was picked instead♪

 

[Tri Knight]

I'm not a fan of Finishing Touch. It's a great option for an early stock, but I have little success with it. The majority of the time I've tried to use it, my opponent miraculously hits me with their ****in' baby toe during the wind up and completely cancels the animation.

Neither do i... I prefer Cross Slash cuz by the time I actually can use a Charged Limit Break, they're already at about 115% and Cross Slash usually kills easily around that percentage.

 

[Buckstrom]

Very beautiful set with Tweek repping Cloud nation and putting in work against Nairo.

I wanted to watch this set ever since I heard it happened... then I found out the first 3 games are with Dark Pit.

I thought that Cloud was a defensive swordfighter, and then we have this R-button angel right here. I would have stopped watching if it wasn't for those ZSS games.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Someone actually beaten Nairos ZSS with Cloud?! I think Cloud has a high chance to be top tier now. I might possibly make him my actual main.

Let's not jump to conclusions, please.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Metal Shop X]

Hey, i just wanted to say that i find Cloud very fun to play. He has his pro and con. But his pro are just so good an fun that i just love this character. And i find him very intersting to watch at High Level. So yeah, i really like Cloud. And i hope you the best guys with him.

 

[BlueX]

Right sorry Smooth Criminal.

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I was wondering this but has anyone found a good shield pressuring option for Cloud?

 

[Buckstrom]

Grab, Blade Beam, Tomahawk, and more specifically Instant Limit Charge D-tilt Crossup, or LB Cross Slash to read?

Wonder what else there is.

 

[~Skelly~]

Welp, I'm still convinced that Cloud is one of Rosalina's worst MUs. Beaten a friend of mine's Rosalina, one of whom I struggled with a lot in the past, with him. 'Twas Glorious.

So Nairo's ZSS got bested by a Cloud player? This pleases me that my main is doing so well in the metagame.

Someone actually beaten Nairos ZSS with Cloud?! I think Cloud has a high chance to be top tier now. I might possibly make him my actual main.

Join us Blue. Join us.

 

[ArcanaXIII]

Tweek's also pretty good. Most likely the best Bowser Jr in the world and very successful at a pretty young age. Also apparently a really good Cloud.

 

[JesseMcCloud]

Tomahawk? What's that?
Also, episode 10 of FFVII Abridged is out!

 

[Buckstrom]

An empty hop. I always call it a tomahawk even though it is a pretty vague term.

 

[JesseMcCloud]

An empty hop. I always call it a tomahawk even though it is a pretty vague term.

Ooh... I thought maybe it was slang for a fast-fall Fair.

 

[Deleted member]

Heh, I mained Shulk when the game came out and Ryu when he came out. I had no idea Shulk had a high learning curve.

Same for me with Shulk. I played with him a lot initially, but I stopped when I saw that I wasn't making much progress and I was just constantly losing. It honestly discouraged me because of Shulk's step learning curve and I can't do MALLC (Monado Arts Landing Lag Cancel), a tech that is necessary for Shulk's metagame. He eventually became a chore to play...
It was hard for me to drop him because I am a massive fan of Xenoblade and Shulk is my second favorite video game character.
I play as Ryu for fun.

Cloud can beat Zero Suit Samus. Blade beam can beat her Zair and his U-smash can counter her D-special. I noticed that its very hard to get into Clouds face.

But still I think Zero suit has a bit more of an edge cause she kills at 40%.

I think that Cloud has the potential to beat Zero Suit Samus. When I go Luigi against her, it's harder for me to really combo her and such, even before patch 1.1.1. I have an easier time fighting her with Cloud, mainly due to his range and power... he does have ways to cover up her strengths. Cloud just needs to be patient in this fight.

I'm not a fan of Finishing Touch. It's a great option for an early stock, but I have little success with it. The majority of the time I've tried to use it, my opponent miraculously hits me with their ****in' baby toe during the wind up and completely cancels the animation.

I hate Finishing Touch. Out of all the Limit Breaks, I use this one the least. I can never land the damn move properly and I just get punished as a result. I mean, it's a good mixup, but it's a very risky move and I don't like it for that.

So apparently a dude named Tweek beat Nairo's ZSS in a Grand Finals yesterday with Cloud.

Holy crap! Really? Th-that's amazing! :O

Tomahawk? What's that?

Someone mentioned this before, but an empty jump. It's really good for mindgames where you could empty jump into something like a grab or a smash attack or nothing for example. Pretty damn useful as a mixup as well.

 

[Tri Knight]

It's funny that empty hops are mix ups in the first place lol

Anyway, it's Christmas Eve and everyone's getting hyped for their presents and such. So I just wanna say to anyone that celebrates the holidays, to have a very Cloudy Christmas!

 

[Smooth Criminal]

I like FT just fine. Just need to nail down the setups and everything'll be gucci.

Also, Merry Christmas to those that celebrate it!

Smooth Criminal

 

[BlueX]

Finishing Touch is OK. It is a strong move because of the high knockback indeed but i do find it hard to land sometimes. I don't really use it often though...

 

[JesseMcCloud]

Happy Festivus, and Happy Feast of Winter's Veil!

 

[ArcanaXIII]

Finishing Touch is a good move. Great as an anti air, useful windbox for gimping bad recoveries, good for intercepting predictable recoveries, and for punishing/reading.

 

[HFlash]

Personally for me, the most consistent way I get my LB off is either by conditioning the opponent to air dodge when above me (I like to uair alot) or when I notice a particular rolling habit.

 

[Lunais]

Or learn your %'s and land and easy GROUND Up Air into Finishing Touch confirm. 8bit used it vs M2K in their dittos. If I get LB and my opponent is around 30% min I go for the best combo finisher he has. Up Air - j.Down B gg.

 

[Deleted member]

Quick question, what would you map the C-Stick to with Cloud? Should I make it Smash, Tilts, Specials, or something else?

 

[(M)]

I hope in a patch that they make Cloud's colors more vibrant or something. It can be pretty hard to tell which cloud you are in a ffa with certain outfits and everyone in a big tussle.

I also hope (although it probably will never happen) that they added in another song or two with the patch in February to Midgar. I mean if they are adding in the FE: Fates songs, it's possible to add songs into existing stages right?

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I'd use his kh1 alt if sakurai added that

 

[Tito Maas]

I wanted to watch this set ever since I heard it happened... then I found out the first 3 games are with Dark Pit.

I thought that Cloud was a defensive swordfighter, and then we have this R-button angel right here. I would have stopped watching if it wasn't for those ZSS games.

As a (former) Dark Pit main, I actually think he's one of the worst matchups for Cloud.

 

[HFlash]

Quick question, what would you map the C-Stick to with Cloud? Should I make it Smash, Tilts, Specials, or something else?

Tilt. Using c stick for aerials gives you the most flexibility in the air (like doing a bair moving forwards or a fair moving backwards). In this game, holding the c stick while doing an aerial actually stunts your air mobility if set to smash, so I dont recommend it. Regardless, Cloud's tilts OOS are god like and setting it to tilt makes it easier, particularly dtilt.

 

[TTTTTsd]

Tilt. Using c stick for aerials gives you the most flexibility in the air (like doing a bair moving forwards or a fair moving backwards). In this game, holding the c stick while doing an aerial actually stunts your air mobility if set to smash, so I dont recommend it. Regardless, Cloud's tilts OOS are god like and setting it to tilt makes it easier, particularly dtilt.

Also it lets you do Tilts out of Cloud's AMAZING Dash early, which is nice. Cloud's Dash IASA is so beautiful ;_;

So yeah, seconding this, C-Stick Attack

 

[Rinku リンク]

Greetings everyone, just wanted to wish you all a...

 

[CptPuff]

Merry Christmas all!

Quick question: would it actually be to my advantage to memorize things such as what % for each character finishing touch kills with, or is that an unnecessary amount of work for minimal return?

 

[Smooth Criminal]

That's...kind of important, bud. You should probably get a general idea of how your FT setups are affected by weight and etc.

Smooth Criminal

 

[CptPuff]

On it, then!

 

[JesseMcCloud]

Quick question, what would you map the C-Stick to with Cloud? Should I make it Smash, Tilts, Specials, or something else?

Same as what everyone else said: Tilts. Even ZeRo said it in his first impressions video.

 

[RebelXII]

BTW, I'm not the anime type.

 

[SonicvMario]

Merry Christmas everyone. Hope you all got what you wanted. Looks like I'm the only person that prefers C-Stick set to smash for Cloud

 

[Tino]

Merry Christmas, fellow Cloud mains! Hope y'all had a good one this year.