How would i go about playing smash bros 64 on a macbook pro? I have gotten the offline emulators to work by using crossover, however the reason i want to play is for the online capabilities. I've tried Project64k, and Mupen, however no success is playing a match online. I can connect to servers and chat with people, but when it comes game time it closes the emulator and goes to the ROM directory. Where should i start?
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64 Online with a Mac?
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Zwarm
Smash Hero
I'm having the same problem, but I never even got the programs to work in the first place. Did Project64k ever work for you, or did you only get Mupen working?
I tried that for the longest time... Short answer: buy a PC. Short and not unreasonable answer: go to the nearest library/computer lab that you have access to (yeah, I know. Sorry. We have to stoop that low to find a not unreasonable answer. Only it's not even really an answer.) Reasonable answer: There is no reasonable answer. You cannot play Super Smash Bros. online on a Mac, unless there's some secret that I have remained unaware of for the last year. As a fellow Dude-who-only-has-a-mac-goddammit!, I feel your pain.
Dont buy a portable computer, table pcs are much better.
Lil Slugger
Smash Rookie
buy a copy of windows and install it through bootcamp
I've already tried and successfully ran Project64 on my mac, and i've opened and connected to a lobby with both project64k and mupen using crossover. However when it comes to connecting to a person and playing against them my emulator doesn't work, it usually crashes. And thank you for all the useful comments saying don't buy a mac, however i assure you after dealing with Windows for my entire life, Apple takes computers a step up. A macbook has more power than my old desktop, and their laptops are far superior to crappy Toshiba ones i see.
But i have gotten emulators to run, just not online. It sounds like it just plain isn't possible. Is there any word of emulators with netplay being created for macs?
But i have gotten emulators to run, just not online. It sounds like it just plain isn't possible. Is there any word of emulators with netplay being created for macs?
Superstar
Smash Champion
Not much of an argument, my desktop was $600 and destroys even the Mac Pros, and all or nearly all desktop macs for under $1000. I could also spend under $1500 (building) and beat the Mac Pro ($2500) in performance. Also the toshiba argument, its pretty similar to comparing $2500 Mac Pros to a $300 Dell, so many people do it but it doesn't fly.
The only benefit of a Mac is the OS. And the fact you could put Windows on there (Apple makes it illegal to put OSX on Windows machines, so there is no Mac virtualization or installs except through hacked sketchy means). So, either get a copy of Windows through some means, and either install it on Bootcamp or:
http://www.virtualbox.org/
You have a Mac Pro, it should be enough power. I know I have enough at least.
Fireblaster
Smash Lord
Wow, a new macbook having more power than an old desktop? Someone call the press! You probably believe all the crap and lies they tell you in mac commercials too, right?
SuPeRbOoM
Smash Master
good post nixxxon
Buncha mac haters, hmm? =P Well thanks for the help. Is bootcamp going to act any differently than crossover? I'll give it a try out this week.
Matt, you are absolutely right. Right clicking on my mac is a conundrum. Instead of only having one finger on the trackpad, I have to have two! *gasp*
Also, i called my desktop old because i don't use it anymore. It had an old frame, yes, but i constantly was swapping out parts of it with newer parts in order to keep it up to date. It had become a bit ridiculous but i liked keeping that computer up to speed with the newer desktops being released. So Nixxxon, i doubt comparing a 2010 model car with a horse carriage is appropriate here, seeing as the difference between my laptop and my desktop in age is at most two years.
And if you want to talk about money efficiency, yes you will probably get more for your money with a PC. But i believe you can go farther than that and get a 25 cent calculator and get more bang for you buck than either machines.
Also it is amazing how you are bringing your desktops to contend with a laptop. This laptop rivals your desktops yet you could fit ten of them in the space of your desktop. I got very interested in the building of computers when i was reconstructing my 'old' desktop over and over. Apple has it right.
Matt, you are absolutely right. Right clicking on my mac is a conundrum. Instead of only having one finger on the trackpad, I have to have two! *gasp*
Also, i called my desktop old because i don't use it anymore. It had an old frame, yes, but i constantly was swapping out parts of it with newer parts in order to keep it up to date. It had become a bit ridiculous but i liked keeping that computer up to speed with the newer desktops being released. So Nixxxon, i doubt comparing a 2010 model car with a horse carriage is appropriate here, seeing as the difference between my laptop and my desktop in age is at most two years.
And if you want to talk about money efficiency, yes you will probably get more for your money with a PC. But i believe you can go farther than that and get a 25 cent calculator and get more bang for you buck than either machines.
Also it is amazing how you are bringing your desktops to contend with a laptop. This laptop rivals your desktops yet you could fit ten of them in the space of your desktop. I got very interested in the building of computers when i was reconstructing my 'old' desktop over and over. Apple has it right.
Fireblaster
Smash Lord
"Probably"? It's not even a debate.
Desktops are just simply better at everything except portability. And most people really DON'T have a real actual need to carry their computer with them to places.
LOL
Thanks for the laugh bro. Is this what all mac users actually believe?
LOL. Building your own computer... so you turn to apple? Now I know you have no idea what you're talking about. Also I'm pretty sure you were doing something wrong if you had to keep constantly upgrading your computer parts (If that's what you're actually talking about).
Superstar
Smash Champion
Bootcamp means actually running it as a native operating system (Your mac boots into windows like any old PC). Crossover is emulation of DirectX, virtual machine is emulation of the underparts but the rest is normal. If your mac is as "powerful" as you say it is, it should be able to run a virtual machine. Its powerful enough hopefully, but not as much as you say it is.
For computers, 2 years is an enormous amount of time. For one, quad cores didn't become really affordable until more recently, with the Q8XXX and Q9XXX series. And this is for mainstream computers, the i7s and the like have come out, while your "superior Macbook pro" is still stuck with a Core2Duo, and a pretty meh Core2Duo as well.
Macbook E7600 benchmark: 2072
My E8400 benchmark: 2165
And, not to mention, the highest graphics card a Macbook Pro can go up to is a 9600M GT. Compared to a real 9600 GT:
9600M GT benchmark: 332
9600 GT (mine) benchmark: 757
Take into account that my desktop is low midrange, no, your laptop doesn't "contend" with desktops. Also, MattNF's and Fireblaster's computers are completely superior to mine, only advantage yours has is DDR3 RAM (and the gain isn't worth the price). Yes, its unfair, we're comparing desktops to laptops, but don't go around saying it easily contends, it doesn't by any means of the word. It's only good among laptops, and even the price doesn't contend.
Also, 25 cent calculators don't play games, surf the web, or develop programs. That's 0 bang for 25 cents.
For computers, 2 years is an enormous amount of time. For one, quad cores didn't become really affordable until more recently, with the Q8XXX and Q9XXX series. And this is for mainstream computers, the i7s and the like have come out, while your "superior Macbook pro" is still stuck with a Core2Duo, and a pretty meh Core2Duo as well.
Macbook E7600 benchmark: 2072
My E8400 benchmark: 2165
And, not to mention, the highest graphics card a Macbook Pro can go up to is a 9600M GT. Compared to a real 9600 GT:
9600M GT benchmark: 332
9600 GT (mine) benchmark: 757
Take into account that my desktop is low midrange, no, your laptop doesn't "contend" with desktops. Also, MattNF's and Fireblaster's computers are completely superior to mine, only advantage yours has is DDR3 RAM (and the gain isn't worth the price). Yes, its unfair, we're comparing desktops to laptops, but don't go around saying it easily contends, it doesn't by any means of the word. It's only good among laptops, and even the price doesn't contend.
Also, 25 cent calculators don't play games, surf the web, or develop programs. That's 0 bang for 25 cents.
The advantages of portability is completely dependent on the person. For me, it is a necessity. And we can't help but believe it if PC lovers always use desktops to compare with macbooks, it is hard not to. Also, yes, i did upgrade my computer quite a bit. And i still will when i find a need for a desktop again. For example blu-ray burning. You won't see a mac with that possibility for a few more years. Its already on my desktop.
I find that most people hate macs because they had to use the POS ones that we had to use in our schools. I had struggled to find any love for those machines. I hated macs just as much as you guys until i got my own. I admit, being a fan of macs comes with a hate for PCs. Each has its advantages, and many of my reasons to hate PCs are unreasonable, as are many reasons to hate Macs. But enough of this. I have endless examples of problems i've had with PCs which simply don't exist with macs. I'm sure you all have the reverse. We should simply agree that computers all come with their advantages and disadvantages. It comes down to preference. Like the calculator. It doesn't play games, get online, or develop programs. However they provide the essentials you need to save time as well as do something neither of our computers can do, most can do it all without being plugged in or switching batteries through solar power panels.
I think there is one thing we one thing that is easy enough to agree on. SSB64 was revolutionary and still considered one of, if not the, best multiplayer games of all time. :bigthumbu
PS: Thank you for all the help so far. I really do appreciate it. I am going to try and get my hands on a lite version of Windows XP this week.
Superstar
Smash Champion
Sorry for continuing this, but comparing desktops to laptops actually is valid here because while the Mac Pro would be a low end desktop, its still pretty high even for the average user. For the uses of a Mac Pro, a desktop more than suffices with a larger screen, better keyboard, and comfort. The only exclusive niche I can really see for a Mac Pro is if you want something close to a gaming machine that you can carry easily to college. Either way, I'm not saying it for the purpose of trying to beat a laptop with a desktop, I'm just saying that you shouldn't say that it "contends" in the future.
Compared to laptops though, I don't think you can reach the Macbook Pros and maintain that battery life. Thing is though, most people only want laptops for minor tasks, myself included. Still, its interesting how they get that battery life for a desktop CPU with no heatsink.
If Lite Windows XP costs money, careful. I'm pretty sure you need a separate license for both VM and bootcamp, so choose carefully. I'll pretty much list out the differences:
Bootcamp: It'll run like a native PC. That means you need to restart the computer for PC related tasks, but it gets the full benefit of the computer's power.
Virtual Machine: You start it as a program from within OSX, so its much much quicker to swap to PC related tasks. You can multitask between Windows and OSX, but the power available to Windows is much less than bootcamp. One CPU at a time (it doesn't multicore well), half your graphics memory or so, and maybe half the RAM. It'll be fine for SSB64, but for PC games, forget it, even my computer would have some problems running full powered games in a VM.
EDIT: Also, yes, school Macs are POS. I don't usually defend Macs too often, but when people talk about their experience with school Macs, I always try to mention this.
Compared to laptops though, I don't think you can reach the Macbook Pros and maintain that battery life. Thing is though, most people only want laptops for minor tasks, myself included. Still, its interesting how they get that battery life for a desktop CPU with no heatsink.
If Lite Windows XP costs money, careful. I'm pretty sure you need a separate license for both VM and bootcamp, so choose carefully. I'll pretty much list out the differences:
Bootcamp: It'll run like a native PC. That means you need to restart the computer for PC related tasks, but it gets the full benefit of the computer's power.
Virtual Machine: You start it as a program from within OSX, so its much much quicker to swap to PC related tasks. You can multitask between Windows and OSX, but the power available to Windows is much less than bootcamp. One CPU at a time (it doesn't multicore well), half your graphics memory or so, and maybe half the RAM. It'll be fine for SSB64, but for PC games, forget it, even my computer would have some problems running full powered games in a VM.
EDIT: Also, yes, school Macs are POS. I don't usually defend Macs too often, but when people talk about their experience with school Macs, I always try to mention this.
Macs suck, all hail PC. Macintosh is just an imperialistic company like micro$oft, where they seek for the maximum profit.
Also, okay, portable pcs are the best if you actually use it out of home, but LOL don't bash table pcs size, its just 3x the size of a portable, and the most important... they are much cheaper to buy and to upgrade, and more powerful
How DARE those companies want to make money! Those bastards should give us everything for free!
pretending to sell their own machine with their own OS is a too fkng pretentious thing. PCs must be PCs where you can put anything on it with freedom, without being in need to buy some OS along with it.
Also lets talk about IPod's and IPhones... overrated and overhyped... idiot mac people presented those machines like the next big thing after the invention of the TV.
Lol, I have managed to get my ipod to be a great remote desktop, about the only useful thing its ever done for me. I'll be using Bootcamp. I know i have a lite version around the house somewhere. Finding it is another matter. I wouldn't bother with PC games. SSB is all i'll need.
JaimeHR
Smash Ace
Macs are good for work and that's it. You don't worry about virus deleting your 5 months worth of job/school documents
DMoogle
A$
We're not in the 90s anymore.
>implying Macs can't get viruses
And only morons get viruses anyway. I haven't gotten one before, ever.
JaimeHR
Smash Ace
not as awesomerz and l33t as Windows' like the Blaster worm aka LoveSan, it pwned the whole high school's network
. good timesSo is this guy already running smash on his Mac?
Heh, back in the day of floppy discs i got a virus on my home computer just because i put in a floppy that had been in a school computer. Of course Macs can get viruses. Nobody is stupid enough to make them though, such a smaller userbase.
Fireblaster
Smash Lord
Lol mac users trying to play games
Imainlowtier
Smash Cadet
olawd
i have XP, hate the haters who hat
i have XP, hate the haters who hat
Alright you buncha haters. Officially played my first smash game online on my macbook pro. It is VERY possible to play ssb online with a mac. I swear putting windows on my mac was one of the hardest decisions i've had to make.
So mac users: Yes you can play SSB64 online. Until someone makes a good netplay option for an emulator for macs your best bet is to use Bootcamp. There are plenty of guides around that will tell you how to.
So mac users: Yes you can play SSB64 online. Until someone makes a good netplay option for an emulator for macs your best bet is to use Bootcamp. There are plenty of guides around that will tell you how to.
DMoogle
A$
Thinly veiled brag.