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...Plenty of good players other than Dabuz and Kameme play Megs and Rosa. Just off the top of my head there's Falln for Rosa and Scatt for Megs. Tink's in a unique situation, what with the whole...Hyuga thing.
No, you couldn't.
has Xaltis, Kirihara, Rayquaza and falln has ScAtt has Ri-ma and Zan
has Ri-Ma, Sigma, Hayato, and Zan. They aren't as popular as Hyuga and the first 3 are locked in Japan unless they win a ride like Ri-Ma.Besides the obvious one, GnW gets results from Extra, KOSSismoss and low key GnW players.
I find this oddly interesting, and pleasing.
I think swordfighters downfall is the lack of good specials. Their normals aren't that bad, but all their specials are sooo underwhelming
is a train wreck. It's like the designers couldn't decide if they wanted to make him a heavy hitter, half sword zoner or rush down/grappler and he ended up getting the raw deal in all 3. He gets outmatched by sword characters' reach (like Marth), out-zoned by campers/zoners, doesn't have the mobility or frame data to be a Roy-like close combat swordie, and he lacks the power/survival prowess to justify all this mediocrity. He has some good grapple stuff and good normals but they're still under-tuned for all the other bad stats.
as a more methodical approach to the character, while there's also the S2J approach which is a lot more flashy., you have players that are much more neutral-heavy (Samsora and SlayerZ) vs players that really like to abuse her movement options (Meru, Umeki). In you have WaDi who plays the character pretty much like a zoner (a holdover from his time with ) vs Abadango & Rich Brown who are much more willing to mix things up and get in if need be. And of course, you have the more aggressive class of (SGK and 6WX) vs Wrath's very patient play. Not just different playstyles, but different ways of seeing the game as correctly played.
Rizen
that Mii Swordfighter makes no sense at all. Here are the reason why he sucks:, because his is so slow that you cannot trick anyone outside of 8 year olds. Unlike (who also have frame 7 jumpsquats), doesn't have the raw power of those 2 to justify it. in the ankles even more. The landing hitbox on Dair is frame 2 for some absurd reason. and while his air speed is OK, his aerial acceleration cancels it out. side B if it were super predictable and traveled at the speed of a snail. I would say it is impossible to mixup his recovery because his air movement is bad and the startup on his specials is garbage. And nothing in his recovery moves is good. No big hitbox to compensate lack of distance (), no absurd KO power to compensate how slow it is (), no speed to compensate lack of general utility (). Nothing.. mobility sucks, his frame data is bad, his projectile is bad, his kill moves are slow, and his recovery is garbage. Perfect recipe for trash tier and to get pressured super hard by any good character and lose in 1 minute. No one will ever play this character, end of story.
Depends on how you buff him.
I am certain that they could rebuild Ganondorf from the ground up and paste the Captain Ganon moveset onto Samurai Goroh or Black Shadow without pissing anyone off. No other character has a moveset so completely uninspired from their franchise appearances.
He's still not viable in Melee.
That pretends that a character's normals are the whole of their moveset. Like sure, Ganon's normals are...pretty okay on the whole (jab's still trash, the grounded moves are overall slow as hell, his smashes are a joke, utilt is just plain sadism) but it doesn't pay to ignore all the ways his special moves just plain aren't allowed to be good.
There's no way you're actually having this discussion right now.
No-one takes issue with sensible defence of a bottom tier and you know it.
Thanks for correctly summing that up.Welcome to Competitive Impressions, where you're not allowed to have opinions or a small shred of optimism for low/bottom tiers.
I'll be lurking in the General/Character forums from now on. Hopefully there, my opinions and optimism for "non-viable characters" will be accepted.
Welcome to Competitive Impressions, where you're not allowed to have opinions or a small shred of optimism for low/bottom tiers.
Oh come off it. If you say stupid ****, people are bound to call you out on it.Thanks for correctly summing that up.
Same, I'm generally a nice person who is optimistic and hopeful for lower tiers, and doesn't try to sleep on lower tiers.Thanks for correctly summing that up.
Dude there is nothing wrong with defending and talking good about low-bottom tier characters at all, I encourage intelligent discussion on characters that aren't explored often but you can't say false stuff and then get mad when someone calls you on it. Ganondorf's uptilt is simply way too slow to be of any use. The only way that move will ever hit you is if your paying Zero attention or your online and can't react like normal.
Rizen
now his F-Tilt is pretty decent of a move
I'm guessing you meant to type Utilt here.
Geez, all I said was that his u-tilt sucks, I didn't say Ganon was irredeemably bad. In the same post I mentioned that he had a really good up smash and a decent f-tilt.
Nobody's saying that trying to defend Ganon is wrong.
