[12/10] Marth's Upward Killers: Why aren't you using Marth's utilt... and dsmash?

[Shaya]

The essence of Shieldbreaker:

At tip range, the opponent has 33 frames to do something.
No opponent has an usmash or up b that can cover the range (wait... maybe... IKE!?)
You're not in grab range.
oh wait, there's also 9 frames of shield lag.
So they have to let go of their shield.
17? frames.
But then they're human, and humans have a non-M2K response time.
5 frames.
So in 5 frames they have to make up the difference in distance to punish you. Give or take the average move is 10 frames, they have to TIME TRAVEL BACK about 5-10 frames to cover the difference. DOESN'T REALLY HAPPEN.

LOL-THEORY.

 

[OfTheEarth]

I will absorb this like a sponge
thanks alot for all the help
i always notice that I try to kill with up tilt and that that last part of the hitbox you were saying really does get the job done
tambien