Official 1.1.6 Patch Notes/Patch Discussion

[Radical Larry]

Apparently some stages have changes.

Like?

 

[Mega Espeon]

No Bayonetta can't be it. Call me crazy or something, but 1.0.6 had 42 megabytes of changes for a variety of characters. One character can't simply be worth 60+ megabytes!

1.0.6 was 42 mb and it featured a plethora of changes, so to say that Bayonetta could be the only character could be misinformation!

http://www.ssbwiki.com/List_of_updates_(SSB4)/1.0.6_changelog
I mean look at this monster! Bayonetta's changes aren't even a third of this!

RTB ran a diffchecker on all the files in the game and Bayonetta's files were the only one that showed up with differences.

 

[Mario766]

Like?

Reported that Pokemon Stadium has model changes, and Palutena's Temple has changes but no details.

 

[DJblackviolence]

God bless you, sir.

not my OC but thanks anyway fam

 

[FallofBrawl]

Looks like someone with a modded 3DS was able to emulate the changes to dABK.

EDIT: Apparently someone actually got their hands on the patch somehow.

https://embed.gyazo.com/f7e469008b7c5bf2b56403584c2f448c.mp4

 

[Gunla]

Bayo changes are in OP.

 

[Flebale]

Don't forget everyone who needed nerfs
*cough*Rosalina*cough*

Nah Rosalina is fine in my eyes. She has a strong defensive game but a small mistake will mess her up. I just wanted to see characters with lesser options get buffed/fixed.

 

[Blue-Mage]

Not to sound like I don't appreciate Payonetta getting unbelievably nerfed, but where exactly is this info coming from if the patch hasn't even been released yet?

 

[Mario766]

Not to sound like I don't appreciate Payonetta getting unbelievably nerfed, but where exactly is this info coming from if the patch hasn't even been released yet?

The files are on the server, which was datamined.

 

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This on top of the Witch Twist nerfs?

Wew. The witch hunts are very much over.


EDIT: Shoutouts to https://twitter.com/LoFHackoru

 

[Parallel_Falchion]

I was under the impression a simple datamine couldn't give such elaborate information. Was I wrong? This all seems a little hard to believe before the patch has even been released.

 

[Sammi Husky]

No Bayonetta can't be it. Call me crazy or something, but 1.0.6 had 42 megabytes of changes for a variety of characters. One character can't simply be worth 60+ megabytes!

1.0.6 was 42 mb and it featured a plethora of changes, so to say that Bayonetta could be the only character could be misinformation!

http://www.ssbwiki.com/List_of_updates_(SSB4)/1.0.6_changelog
I mean look at this monster! Bayonetta's changes aren't even a third of this!

It's because the way the patch system works. patches don't only contain updated files. it contains ALL stage files, ALL character files, etc etc. if a single char's moveset file was changed, ALL char moveset files are in the patch even though they're untouched

But yes it is indeed just bayo i ran diffs on the whole patch myself to confirm what RTB said. The only other thing changed was that they decompressed a few files in palutena's temple and stadium

 

[Vipermoon]

Only change of her param file is d-tilt FAF, 36 -> 38.
This don't means in-game value though.

You mean 26 > 28?

 

[Luig]

I was under the impression a simple datamine couldn't give such elaborate information. Was I wrong? This all seems a little hard to believe before the patch has even been released.

long story short, basically the patch is up on the nintendo update servers, so you can access it, but not through a wii u, as they can't download it yet.

 

[Megalopunny3]

If Nintendo knows people datamine why do they put it on their server? Idk this just seems kinda fishy, or I don't wanna believe it's just Bayo

 

[Mario766]

If Nintendo knows people datamine why do they put it on their server? Idk this just seems kinda fishy, or I don't wanna believe it's just Bayo

Can't avoid it, it HAS to go onto the servers ahead of time so they can launch it. Blame how Nintendo runs their patches.

 

[Champ Gold]

Well it finally shut the babies up from complaining but this man is really sad.

Didn't even place in Top 8 multiple times, hasn't won a major, at most dominated the Top 32 and has bad results and got nerfed HARD.


I still say this fanbase is babies but atleast the 0-Death is gone and I can finally play Bayonetta without the SDs and crying and the mean looks

 

[Sammi Husky]

If Nintendo knows people datamine why do they put it on their server? Idk this just seems kinda fishy, or I don't wanna believe it's just Bayo

All of the patch notes threads up to this one have been done entirely through datamining. And every single time, they put the update on their servers before the update actually drops. sometimes it's only an hour or few before drop. you can use my moveset editor to diff them the same as everyone else is if you don't believe it matey

 

[Mega Espeon]

That divekick angle, wow. That's a hard nerf.

 

[Megalopunny3]

All of the patch notes threads up to this one have been done entirely through datamining. And every single time, they put the update on their servers before the update actually drops. sometimes it's only an hour or few before drop. you can use my moveset editor to diff them the same as everyone else is if you don't believe it matey

I believe you but I don't wanna believe it. Good for the game balance wise, but I also wish other characters were changed. Oh well can't have everything

 

[Trifroze]

Witch Twist:
All hitboxes SDI multiplier: 1 -> 2

The thing is, this alone might have actually been enough for at least the competitive scene, but the remaining wall of nerfs strongly indicates they wanted to make sure absolutely no one has anything left to complain about.

 

[GHNeko]

Looks like someone with a modded 3DS was able to emulate the changes to dABK.

EDIT: Apparently someone actually got their hands on the patch somehow.

https://embed.gyazo.com/f7e469008b7c5bf2b56403584c2f448c.mp4

It was this guy.

https://twitter.com/LoFHackoru?lang=en

 

[Meshima]

You mean 26 > 28?

No, 36 -> 38. Her d-tilt has FSM.

 

[ThatStrangeDoll]

RIP bayonetta, no way shes still viable after this.

 

[Dr. Tuen]

No, 36 -> 38. Her d-tilt has FSM.

What's FSM?

 

[Luig]

I'm copying the 1.1.6 patch files to my sd. I'll mess around with it and try to get some data on her new side b and when it combos. I'll just test on mario.

What's FSM?

frame speed modifier. It controls how fast 1 frame of an animation goes by.

 

[warionumbah2]

She got MK/Luigi'd hard, see you in the next world Bayo users.

Scratch that she got no buffs as compensation.

 

[Meshima]

What's FSM?

Frame Speed Multiplier.

 

[FightingPolygon]

Reminder that when people datamined the Cloud patch it only had a few of Cloud's voice clips and only one of the two mii costumes, and no balance changes... Until the actual full patch was released later on, after the direct. This might not be the end.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

This is almost too much.

Goodness, I guess this is what happens when people don't shut up about something.

 

[Spikezillian]

I'm pleased to see that Bayo was nerfed, as yes, I do think she was very difficult to deal with.

But when are we going to get a G&W, Duck Hunt or Jiggs buff? (A relevant buff, mind you. Unlike Duck Hunt's previous buff, KBG increase for smashes that still barely connect)

 

[Megalopunny3]

Reminder that when people datamined the Cloud patch it only had a few of Cloud's voice clips and only one of the two mii costumes, and no balance changes... Until the actual full patch was released later on, after the direct. This might not be the end.

There is hope?!

 

[IsmaR]

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[CyberHyperPhoenix]

The Witch Twist nerf alone would have satisfied most of the community, but I suppose Sakurai wasn't taking any chances with that nerf gun he has.

 

[Luig]

The SDI multiplier nerf to witch twist seems really significant. You can really mess up her spacing.
DABK doesn't combo into anything until around 150 if they di in.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I think Bayo will still be fine though.

She's got some nice tools.

I just hope that some of her old combos still work.

 

[J-Aura]

Any changes for lucario?

 

[gridatttack]

I'm surprised they didn't touched Witch Time.

But yeah, it's labbing time for Bayo mains once the patch is out, I'm sure she still have tricks.

Though should be more fun (to put it that way) to battle against her.

 

[Big-Cat]

Any changes for lucario?

So far, the patch only applied changes to Bayonetta and some stage elements. No other character was changed. Also, your avatar is way off center.

 

[Lavani]

The fair3 FSM seems to be resulting in the autocancel and FAF both being 1 frame later.

FAF: 36 -> 37
Autocancel: 32> -> 33>