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  • Lol...that makes you top tier already.
    Guest would be as well since you two make up the MIB.
    And then Big Bang attacks.
    lolz though.
    well yeah, but im trying to balance this out internally...

    essentially flamethrower will do :O damage, but wavebuster offers other things like paralyze of gimping if you catch an opponent off-stage.

    howeverm, how much damage do you think it should do?
    truth...

    Wave beam has just been tricky for me as it doesnt really have it's role, just cool stuff:

    Power is KOs, Ice is control, Plasma is damage..

    Wave is supposed to be a neutral, (with some combos due to stun) but wavebuster is odd in that if i give it more damage, it just becomes a better version of flamethrower as it homes in and has control options...
    also:

    Dsmash has you send out a reserve energy tank onto the field.

    anyone but her who touches it will detonate the energy inside for upto 20% fully charged. If you take damage after sending it out, you can collect it back for health.

    and when you said charge shot, did you mean just the standard version of wave?
    how is the final smash "ew"?

    you go First person and shoot phazon at *****es :p (allthought the shooped phazon corrupting the page may look odd on different comps...)

    The smashes are being written, so only missles/seekers are done. Spazer beam has effects as follows:

    Power: standard single-double-Tri Shot
    Wave: lingering area of zappy owies
    Ice: Spread Shot, slows fall speeds to a crawl
    Plasma: allways max range, Rain of Fire effect (charge effects duration)

    as for wave buster, didnt notice that...but I'm trying to differentiate it from flamethrower, by making it semi control based and auto-hitting. It cant do -that- much damage..
    Well, I just got it this afternoon x.x


    @three heart challenge- DOOOOOOOOOOO EEEEEEEET!
    x.x Internet died night before last x.x

    I should've known,
    Jellyfish don't have the double cell system problem Pikmin do so that's a moot point.

    As to the light beam, I've no objection to it, PSD is a plausible point, if anything else, I support it.
    Don't kno...maybe you're too far ahead of their time...you're in quantum physics and they're in earth science lol...but seriously, IDK anymore.
    LK always takes a while with his updates, and they're always worth the wait :laugh:
    Lol. Good thing I have a scouter.
    Oh wait...
    Well I sense the madness and I'll challenge it anyway. Who else did Ganon lose to?
    But anyway, we would have to show them apparently and even then we'll go through more nonsense.
    Guest fails then lol. And I thought Beren was the one who broke it to everyone how Ganondorf would win via concussive force. And yea the disgruntled Bowser mains would step in and yada yada yada (Don't forget JOE! is a B00ZER main), and then Justaway, who lurks til a Mario character is being discussed. I still think we can take em lol.

    And Oli could work. I was thinking the bombadier beetle tactic with the white pikmin, but either way there would have to be a very big discussion on it. I'm trying to tell REL now to get ready since after this MU I believe we start to make the tier list. But the lasers could work if we allow future tech.
    I second. Between you/Adum, me, Beren, and maybe Guest we can get the victory for Ganon. Ray would sleep soundly lol. And Falcon is gonna raise back up now that he has a gun lol. And maybe Oli as well if REL can determine a way to make him plausible in RL.
    Oh, and I have to go Yellow since ppl be takin my font colors lol. But oh well...
    Why doesn't this guy get it? Bowser is screwed in this MU.
    And they hatin on my trollin of pics while actually contrubiting to the MU.
    Happy belated BTW.
    Oh, I'm filling in the History notebook, I have a notebook check on Wednesday, but I'm not going to be at school Wednesday for a field trip so I'm having to get it in tomorrow.
    hmmm my Gamestop card just got its priority redirected x.x hopefully Midland and all its slowness won't be too slow in getting that bad baby on the shelves.

    lol @ the bowser dude....

    and I saw that Jellyfish edit... are you referring to the game or are you trying to equate that to Pikmin, because Jellyfish run one cell system.
    Just finished printing mah vocab x.x too many words....
    time to watch vids as I throw together some notes!

    (history notebook check x.x)
    Glory of Hercules? What's it for?

    I don't know why you're supporting pikmin.

    And, even if the process is continuous, you need cells to hold and deliver that to where it needs to be used. The process is one thing, but you have to take that usable energy/oxygen/whatever to where it's needed before it's useful and in a multicellular organism without a circulatory system, that can't happen.

    That's like saying I don't need a stomach because as long as I always eat I'll have energy, which isn't true. There has to be a place for all this to occur.

    The processes that you're explaining take place in cells, if the cells don't move from that spot, then that energy/oxygen/whatever is produced for use, can't be used where it needs to be, it'll just be there while the other areas tire out and die away.

    Or if there is no circulatory system, there are no cells, and with no cells, these processes can't happen. So there must be cells, therefore there must be a circulatory system, and you cannot function without energy/oxygen/whatever being taken to all parts of your body being a multicellular organism, and without a circulatory system you couldn't meet that requirement, therefore it must be present in that sense as well. An immune system must be present because of all the contagions and bacteria over the ground they walk and the air, and porous skin. Without the immune system, they would die of those contagions. With the immune system, it attacks any foreign cells, and since the animal immune system would recognize the plant cell as an intruder those are destroyed, eliminating some of the life processes the pikmin need to live, therefore killing the pikmin.
    If they don't have a circulatory system, then there is no place to store anything they may absorb, seeing as how the cirulatory system includes cells and the things associated with them.

    Those nutrients mean nothing if they can't go anywhere. It's like us trying to eat food with no digestive system.


    And your comparison to a single celled organism is horrible. Plants and Animals are multicellular. Multicellular organisms need a circulatory system, they have no other way of distributing the nutrients they need throughout their entire body. They need cells to perform the functions they need to perform, they need cells to transport the nutrients, they need cells to live, and if the cells are killing each other then they're screwed.
    As for airborne contagions, it's called stomata. How do you think some plants take on some weird colors, a virus does that.

    You're trying to say that a multicellular organism doesn't need something that all multicellular organisms need. And that's wrong in every way.

    EDIT:Also, even if certain cells take care of certain things, they still have to distribute the nutrients throughout the body.
    And even as plants don't have immune systems
    Animals do and the pikmin would need one to perform all the things an animal does, such as cross terrain and with porous skin fight off harmful bacteria, and that immune system would destroy the plant cells, or if they didn't have one, whatever bacteria is everywhere in the environment will kill them.
    There's also still the pressure created by the xylem and pholem in moving cells because they have to use pressure, straining the heart which has to pump red blood cells which will lead to cardiac arrest, which leads to death.
    They need a circulatory system if they're going to transfer the nutrients throughout their body -which they would need to-, or to even have the cells to perform the functions you just indicated.

    A circulatory system is a must. And it's a must that conflicts in of itself.

    And you would still need an immune system because there are still airborne contagions, not just those in food.
    lol

    @your edit: That's only describing Pikmin in terms of gaining energy and respiration to an extent.

    Down in the circulatory system it's a biological impossibility.
    The pressure used by xylem and pholem would put too much strain on the rest of the system, probably causing cardiac arrest, killing the pikmin.

    An immune system- would kill the plant cells because it identifies them as intruders due to the complete difference between plant and animal cells. (or vice versa, but I don't think plants have an immune system and if they do, it's not like an animal's)

    No immune system leaves the pikmin easily susceptible to die of some random contagion in the air

    A mixed immune system (if plants do in fact have an immune system, imah look that up) the system would kill itself due to the differences in cells.
    You took Samus beyond kill, and made her omnirape.

    I'm just pointing out all the instances I can remember that people have gone overkill, whether it be good or bad.
    since when? there's no way they're anatomically perfect. I would think it's the other way around. Or both fail.
    I'm not talking about that post! I'm talking by other post before that one. ( The one before the bowser one.)
    No, I had always used this calculation from the outset of Pika's electricity:
    6-3
    500x3=1500. Those were values I used before we dove into the biochemistry of it.

    Not like it matters now, either way someone is fried.
    Why 6?

    That's the base amperage, but remember you have to account for the rubber insulator, cutting Pika's amps to roughly 3.
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