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  • I think it's nine, and the less a move is counted in that set, the less dimished it is. Uair, for whatever reason, counts toward the 9 or 10 limit every time it's used. Or so I've heard.

    Is he still there? You could tell him now.
    Just be sure to keep researching and thinking. GaW is a well-rounded character who can be used for almost any situation. Have Jim tell you any problems he notices too ok? I can tell you not to approach with Fair hardly ever, turtle is much better. Dtilt is an amazing move, use it. Nair goes through spotdodges and starts continuations. Dair gives the impression of being punishable. Uair refreshes your moves I think.

    Get him to do it today! We need to think of something else if his mom won't help.
    Lol at Bill nye. He's a good dude.

    Anyway, how was smash with Jim today?

    How's practice?

    You find where you were gonna wait for me at yet?
    Lol you sure got hit pretty hard after you used it...

    I LOVE Falco! I'll watch your Falco videos then. I hope you're fairly technical in them, so I can just go to Falco tricksies and stuff. Falco is definately the best in Melee!!! Wooooo!

    Learn GaW!

    Can't say more. Play him at Billfest.
    I hope it helps bro. Cape is good, but you use at disadvantageous or just silly times.

    I'll watch them then. I may point out anything significant I see in match 3 if you want, but I'm not doin another big one.

    MK isn't boring, just play him to help him get banned. Only as a CP like me if you want.

    He didn't tell me how to do it anyway, it looks like DJCing though. I'll say no more.

    Heck yeah you're totally the Ken of ROB.
    Be satisfied with my critique broman.

    Just learn him for CPs lol. It really helps when you wanna win.

    I dunno if Kidd took it off of Youtube yet. He probably did cuz he wants it secret I'd bet.

    I saw it on the ROB boards lol.
    First match:

    0:05-0:07- stop attacking with no one there! Practice tech skill in training mode lol

    0:09-0:13- you eff your tech skill up and look painfully slow and inconsistent.

    0:20ish- I usually Bair just to be safe. A cape could have been aight too, not sure.

    0:23-0:25- wow. Ftilt=no. Dsmash. Cape=no. Bair/Dsmash/not cape. Roll when he's above you? You should at least try to Uair him. Being below Mario is baaaad. You get hit.

    0:29- don't cape that.

    0:...lotsa edgeguarding crap-you were more focused on doing WD tricks than faking him out. If he's gonna come towards you, make sure you're WDing back or ready to CC. Watch him, not you. err, get away from the ledge and push him off quick.

    side note 0:54-............

    1:02- don't charge it. He's not blind you know lol.

    I can't figure out what happened after that. You both kinda just attacked and either missed or didn't L-Cancel right. Practice.

    1:31- Follow up your hits! Go for a grab since he's shielding. Once he's accustomed to that, you can go for Uairs or something. Don't run away when you have the advantage!

    1:32- He's sitting in his shield STILL, so don't just run at him. You haven't grabbed all game, why should he be worried? Grab him!

    1:55- Don't recover with Uair.

    2:05-wtf. Double Cape to Up-B? I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.

    2:11ish- stop full jumping so much! Fox loves to get you in the air above him. You couldn't even punish Jim's silly side B because of it.

    2:27- Too much spotdodging throughout this entire match. It's really good, but sometimes a WD back works just as well. Don't let him just pressure you like that.

    2:47- get-up attack. Meh. Unlucky I guess.

    The rest is him predicting you correctly and you messing up more tech.

    Generally, you had some good decisions, but couldn't follow anything up because you were too focused on your own character. Watch Jim (to learn patterns), get tech skill back up, and stop caping so much!
    Goin to watch nao...

    Lol johns.

    Yay tech skill!

    Right...

    You didn't say no to Snake.

    ROB boards lie in their old matchup thread then.
    It shouldn't take that long...

    Mario is worse than Falco johns.

    Do you get shiled grabbed with Falco? If the answer is yes, then you need to practice.
    ...I need to practice too still lol. LoZR kills me too easily from grabs.

    I don't really know what it was, but he sent me a video of it, and Peach looks friggin high tier with it. Seriously.

    Friggin Dark Pch. lol.

    They're amazing when they're gay, that's why.

    But...it was LUCAS!

    ROBs bad matchups are gay characters. Wait, don't you main Falco in Melee?

    MK counters most of them lol. Snake does well vs MK, GaW, and has a slight advantage on Marth.

    Peach ain't so good.

    Doesn't Mario beat ROB lol.
    I know you can't tell me now, but just don't wait till Friday night or Friday even to tell me.

    It's so much easier to help you when you have better control of your character and your mental game is the only problem. I honestly suggest tech practice (you know, training mode and lvl 1s or something). I'll still watch the matches though. Wouldn't leave another Kid up the creek like that. =p

    You mean you and Jim practice technical stuff together, or mid-match? Mid-match is bad. BAD.

    Work on your SHFFLs, waveshines, shine DJ wavelands on platforms, and laser control. Oh yeah, and some shine to grab for good measure.

    Kidd has a new Peach technique he will show you at Billfest then. No johns.
    ICs have the gayest grabs in the game.
    Lucas....why?
    Drop Diddy for DDD or MK...lol.

    Just take a CP for ROBs bad matchups then.
    Should be 125. Tell me what building you'll be outside/by/in soon so I can get things worked out ok?

    Yeah, but you guys had better be doin good. Those last Melee matches you bros put up were a great amount slower than your regular ones before Brawl. =p

    Are you practicing tech?

    Are you researching and experimenting with the characters besides ROB you wanna play?
    I was mistaken, 43A puts me onto I-40 from...something else.

    125 takes me off of interstates and towards your place. I need to only be off of the interstate momentarily, so just be close to that.

    You realize if you're right by 43A you'll be on a median or something lol.
    125 off of I-40. Where are you gonna be at? Whatever's cloesest I hope, but I dunno if that's a gas station or a restaurant.

    Walk lol.

    You been practicing tech skill? What about Jim?

    How's Brawl? Less than a week now bro!
    You gotta tell him though that it's not fair that you practice Melee but he doesn't practice Brawl. Tell him to suck it up. Use Brawl as a Melee warm-up or something, I dunno. He has to get better!
    Loooool no.

    I said CLOSE to the interstate.

    You know, a gas station or restaurant close by an exit.
    Not at McDonals lol, unless it's right by the interstate or something.

    I didn't get a good chance to ask today, I'll have your answer for sure tomorrow.

    Do your best, and I'll do mine. We can make this work!
    Alright, well while you're responding to my last message, I just looked up the info about the trip.

    I'm seeing somewhere around 3 hours and 45 minutes (3.75 hours, whatever) of time if I go pick you up when I search it. Of course, it also said that your place is 1 hour and 20 minutes away from mine....so this is confusing.

    I know it could be veen longer than that if I get stuck in traffic like last time, so I dunno what my parents will say about this.

    I'll talk to mom about it after dinner some time, and get back to you later on tonight. We'll see what happens I guess...
    Fair's fair.

    Technical is goooood. Be Fox and Falco then too while you're at it lol.

    Ali and I argued in GE thread, SC smashers are on the Rankings when thread is called NC PRs, we dunno how to redo this.

    Win?

    Practice, and having fun, are all I ask.


    .....oh yeah, and message Peachy saying you wanna join the friends social group.
    I'll try my absolute hardest bro!

    Get Jim to play Brawl with ya since you're re-learning Melee now ok?

    Bro, learn Sheik if you aren't all about tech skill. Sheik is good, not highly technical, and very gay lol.

    You haven't seen the PR dispute yet, have ya lol.

    I'm not sure if I earned first, but I'll take it lol.

    Practice, and pay for gas, and you will bro.
    Haha bro, I dunno how likely it is that it'll work, but just don't get overexcited for nothin ok? That would be the worst.

    How bout them crazy PRs huh?
    Ima try to take you to the Billfest aight? Will get back to you on what my parents say though....
    I friggin hate Geometry....I liked it less than I do Calculus now. Thank goodness my teacher was lenient but had us learn enough. That was actually fun aside from the learning lol.

    I'm pretty slow....I only made a 4 on my AP English exam last year, and a 5 (woooo hooo) on my AP Biology exam.

    Dunno bout that, but I'll leave no mental stone unturned...it'll probably be kinda all-over the place depending on how recent the talk was.

    Yes, and not really in an XL shirt (to make room for balloons I guess...). They were pretty fun to slap though.
    It's Al. 1 then Geom. then Al. 2 at my school unless you took Al.1 at the midle school lol. Goofy education....

    Bibliography? F that, colleges want to much fo that mess anyways. I'll give you plenty of details, and probably go over the whole thing so far again once this little thing clears up (no, not my hickey, my girl situation).

    Very lopsided actually.
    I was allowed to take it cuz I took Algebra 1 in 8th. Thought you told me you did that too...I'm sooo bad at remembering important stuffs...

    Yes @ first part, and it's not good @ the second part. Will have full details sometime soon. I plan on letting you know.

    And chesticles for one night.
    Alegebra 1? I took that mess in 8th grade lol. No wait! Algebra 2 right? Yeah I took that in 9th grade too. Pretty tough at first, but I was making easy "A"s by the end of the course.

    It's cool, I had an awesome senior night to make up for it...I guess lol. Thanks for being cool about that.

    You don't know what that is? Guys are cheerleaders, girls play flag football. Guys get an epic halftime routine that rules also lol. Oh yeah, guys dress up like chics too (stuff balloons in shirt and back of shorts, and get a wig and most get makeup...o yeah, and get ribbons in hair and glitter and get their shirt tied back a little to show some stomach lol). ....Crazy fun lol.
    Class is part of the day, can't girls be the rest of it? Probably make for a happier, wealthier future. just tryin to help you bro.

    Too bad I'm defense and the coaches wouldn't put me up even though it's my last game....le sigh.
    Lol smash and soccer.

    Too much powderpuff football lately man lol. Balloons in a man's shirt really changes his perspective on things...
    Lol why can't you wait? Class is kinda important you know (switching from mom mode now...).

    Oh, well then I lost my last game after going into OT. They scored in the first 10 of 20 minutes, then we completely miss a basically open goal in the second part.
    Sucky ending to a season, but Senior night Monday was mad fun. Best I've ever seen since I've been at my high school all of these years....crap, I'll get emotional if I keept that up...
    I'm sorry to hear that....yay I'm helpful!

    Hylian usually has some fairly recent vids from tournies, try to get Jim to watch him play.

    GaW combo videos!!! Lol.
    Well then, Diddy takes some time to beast with. I'd study that junk like crazy if I were you. I play him very occasionally myself, so I have an idea of what it takes to beast with him.

    Jim needs GaW work fundamentally. As much as he would detest it, he needs to watch some good GaW's play and study some himself. Critiques wouldn't kill him either.

    Might just be the gap based on how much one bro cares....
    It would be cool to play one of those guys. I doubt I'd lose to a ROB any other way to be honest. Karn may be able to do it one day, but not next tourney probably.
    Lol @OS.

    You need to stick with one of them for a while. Record a match with your Marth (preferably not a ditto or online though; this is assuming Marth is your next best), and I'll give it as thorough of a critique as I can give ok? That should help, as should watching skilled player vids snd reading the character boards.
    I'm not saying I'm better, but from what EL has talked about in matchup discussions, and what I can theorize, I feel confident that I could at least gimp with ROB. Experience matters though.

    I imagine a ROB ditto would be fairly horrible lol. Glad I don't play him.
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