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About Pikmin and Zelda:
What you're trying to do is compare two unlike scenarios here.
Zelda has been in more than 1 game, while White Pikmin have only 1 game.
As with Sheik and ICs, it's hard to make a case for a character when they only have one game to represent them.
Also, Zelda was shown to be trained among different things. Remember, Impa trained her in LoZ, so it wouldn't be too far fetched for her to know how to perform certain actions such as shooting a bow.
Take into consideration as well that we have combined different attributes for characters as well before already.

Toon/Young Link are all consilidated into Link now.
Ganon has been used mostly in his TP or LoZ incarnation, but the WW version has been used as well.
Mario had no hammers in SMW, but he was given them in the thread.
Fox/Falco/Wolf never used a gattling until their game on Gamecube.
Peach had bombs in 1 game (maybe two), but she has them in this thread.

So for her to have the skill to use a bow isn't a complete mystery. White pikmin never used the ability in their games and if Nintendo didn't give them that ability then oh well. Look at Pichu, Jiggs, Kirby, DDD, Yoshi, and the others who have little to no chance in this thread due to the lack of "traits" Nintendo gave them to win in real life. You can't just decide that because Zelda wasn't shown to use a bow that she can't.

And if we play along with this, you may bring the thread down again as well because it opens the door to more tomfoolery. For example,
Link can become a Wolf
Sonic can become a wolf
Sonic has a sword
Yoshi can fly
Zard, Bowser, and Yoshi all breathe fire
Kirby can use the ability of any of his hats
Falcon's gun is a OHKO
Ganon has earthquake punches
ROB and G & W are available fighters

You saw how badly the thread went down after the flood of fanboyism and the loss of logic. Trying to make the white pikmin valued because Zelda wasn't shown in every game to shoot an arrow. I posted this here so it won't interfere with the thread and I won't be accused of killing it again.

Vegeta is the only one who tryly killed anyway...

I don't really see how something like the Dragon is left up for interpretation...but that is just me...

Well you definately made the right choice; college does that to the best of us. And I see how you're trying to buff Olimar now and the timing of it...lol.

And Yoshi can fly and spew fire lol....and JOE! gave him teeth I thought.

http://earthboundcentral.com/m2eb/

You might want to read up on this and see how much of Mother 2 was censored if you wanted to play through these games again...

Also...FYI...I really don't care about that who would win debates outside of that forum...but thank you though if you though I did...

(I do not mind talking about the mother canon out of the forum though if you want)

BTW...make sure you have the most recent version of Mother 3 ^_^

Yea you're right. But Zard is still a failure as well.

And you should have. I mean, I know you're busy so you should have. I mean, you can always bring it up if we decide to do redos again (lol).

If we're going completely anatomical, then yes Zard wins because DDD fails. But if we cater to the fact that he has gloves and we rule him like MK, then he has a chance. He would just have to punch Zard in the mouth when he tried to attack. And I still don't like the look of Zard biting him with those small teeth, especally when they look like their main purpose is to grab hold of prey rather than bite.

Oh and I was reading the Oli v. IC rematch and enjoying the WoT you, Beren, and I had put up (possibly the only re-do that was an actal debate BTW). I came across that post of yours and ROFL at work and decided to sig it. Beren was mad at you, but wanted to destroy Just lol. The good times in Nov...

Oh and I'm going to sig one of your lol statements that apparently represents me in TDB.

@ Zard v. DDD
Size doesn't mean that he is a weakling. A punch to Zard's throat is still going to hurt/maybe kill him.

The fat thing is plausible and makes sense. But do note that he will have muscle, but also a layer of fat as well.

I'm still skeptic on Zard biting DDD, but his claws are the only way he can harm him. DDD's arms> Zard's arms, so the claws may never get a chance because if they do Zard's neck is in striking distance.

Oh and the tail....DDD has no response for that...yet...

yes you did! i knew about your results.

my, this is so weird. everyday a response! O_o
don't feel obliged to answer and don't feel sorry if you forgot!!
*sighs*
have a nice day^^

:bigthumbu your awesome

double vm bcuz i can

just saw your pic XD
my, aren't we a clever man
knowing how to handle a webcam..

dang im not the sarcastic type of person!
or at least i wasn't being sarcastic when i typed you that...
what i said was honest and sincere!

i neither wanted to reproach nor pressure you, i was just............. worried.

my frieeend =____=

just wanted to have ya know that you dun have to reply if you don't want.

hope things will get less stressful for you.

have a nice christmas season.

♪ Suiseiseki from Rozen Maiden? Sorry, I'm just trying to guess your avatar. †

lmao at kakarel

its ok.

Ok KakaREL, I can admit to that; you do win more debates than I do.
Snake would be second and Ivy would probably be in lower B tier.
TDB Tier list:
S
Samus
Snake
Bowser
A
Mario
Link
ZSS
Ike
B
Fox
Ivysaur
Diddy
DK
Ness
C
Wario
Luigi
Falco
Pit
Roy
D
Peach
Zelda
Marth
Pikachu
Wolf
E
Mewtwo
Ice Climbers
Lucas
Lucario
Meta-Knight
F
Capt. Falcon
Ganondorf
G
Charizard
King Dedede
Yoshi
Sonic
H
Squirtle
Pichu
Jigglypuff
Kirby
Add fanboyism and root for the character above and that's how you win

Hey I noticed something...everytime I have something to say, you always have a rebuttal. Well I'm on to you buddy...your name is now...KAKA-REL!(I am seriously bored at work and you're like the TDB rival so yea...LOL. Plus apparently I am Vegeta according to JOE!)
One day I will surpass you and become the rightful Prince of all Sayers!

I see I see...
gonn edit it into the formula...
it's in the social group! :D

WAIT?
Am I missing the JOE! factorial

that whole formula times the factorial of JOE!

What else needs to go in there?
that formula must be idolized and remembered

You can't beat that TDB formula...
>___>

EDIT: I'm officially a pro troll

lolwut?
>___> this is a trap....

@Falcon- it may be said, but it's not shown, therefore you cannot assume it...
@Pokemon-according to you guys way long back, games superceded everything else in canon credibility, even with anime included, time shown is limited and not sufficient for total recovery and according to your logic on the ICs, you could not assume any more time than that.

@Falcon- but does being in that car necessarily mean resting, his body is undergoing a lot of stress taking the speeds that he is going....
@Zelda- Again, that's one of the characters on my list that I said would survive...
@Pokemon- By your logic on the ICs, the game never shows you what "Wild" Pokemon are doing, so you couldn't assume that...

Notice how in my list that Snake was actually a character who would survive....

how about trying to prove a character I said wouldn't survive?
*nods*

and yah, that's how I roll
always having that concealed knife :O
nyuck nyuck nyuck

*takes to VMs*

What?
What?
WHAAT? :O

isnt it the 1000th that shouldve been saved?!
nobody cares about the 1001 post XD

WHAT'S UP WITH YOU 2?!?!?!
can't you just read the whole convo before makin such an assumption? =____=
nah i dun drink. lol
you ever been really drunk? XD

ill just have ya know that i dont do that on purpose. it just takes me some time to type you a pm and i didnt have that time yet.

That's JOE! TO YOU!
IMAH CHANGE TEH MU WHEN I GET BACK HOME IN A FEW DAYS!!!

loljk

*points to CT*

CT= Custom Title

hey there
im sorry i didnt manage to type a proper reply yet, and im not sure if i can use the computer tmorrow :/
ill try to do it asap though

btw, congrats on 1,000th post :D

Hmm...
I wonder who is going to call me out on IC bias

I made your card, it's in the social group. If you can't read the text I'll paste it on the social group.

I'll discuss this on the boards. You're mostly correct on most of it but I still don't buy a vacuum killing Yoshi. He fails but Luigi isn't any better.

Let's see...
um..
Open the folder: Gimp-2.0
=> bin
=> gimp-2.6

If you have any problems, just ask

And this is what I am saying:
-Yoshi can stay on his stomach; it isn't as if he cannot crawl.
-Luigi has no object to use, which is the only way he would kill Yoshi.
This means Luigi would have to come in close.
-Yoshi is stronger and bigger than Luigi, so a slam from him would be fatal to Luigi.
I also suggested biting before. Tail whipping is also an option.
-And How in the world do you suppose Luigi kills Yoshi?
..................
I guess I'll wait for this one.
-You may think of Yoshi as a swan but I think of him as physics/Nintendo's project gone wrong. But he is still better fit in this MU than Luigi.
-All of what you said is right for the most part, but take into account Galleom v. Petey. Galleom had the worst physics of all the bosses but still could beat Petey because Petey cannot do a thing to destroy Galleom.
Galleom = Yoshi and Petey = Luigi
Understand me now?

XD its only 2 weeks, dont worry my darlin :D

Dude, use karts with high boost. screw speed, speedy karts have bad accel. and boost.
Egg1 and that drytank are definitely the best snaking karts.

HOLY CRAP! i didn't have to wait 3 days to get a reply!

that sounds good. earn money and play smash. too good.

that sounds good and bad. you don't have people making you do schoolwork wheb you don't want to. but if you don't do it then its your fault.

thank goodness i'm not getting stalled. but at least i'm on my last year of high school.

you still call me m-dawg? lol

i don't think i'm even noticed that much around here.
......oops. lol

fine. =)
last year of high school is 2 stocking me. it even planked me. =_=

you?