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Gova is icky because he deflected attention away from my wagon. He wants me as an ally (#61). Note how he doesn't vote X1, this would be too obvious. When Gova flips scum, remember I said this. Leave him for now. If X1 flips scum, definitely lynch Gova.
My post 61 doesn't mention you at all so where are you getting that I want you as an ally?
That post was just to show my skepticism to X1's claim. If you are town my "deflecting" of your wagon would be a good thing unless you think I'm doing it for town cred. Conversely if I were scum I could have put you at L-1 easily as the wagon basically went unquestioned until Kevin came and Sir Bed asked people to unvote.
@Everyone
Since X1 claimed an even night cop do you think there is an odd night cop?
Also if I were VT I could be miller without knowing, saying I could be miller thus effectively claims VT. Which would be dumb early D1 (spesh 'cuz I'm vig ).
@ Gova - correct. I'll find the actual post, my bad.
You are saying that I'm lying, and expect town to believe that purely on an argument that revolves all around the assumption that you're town.
I never crumbed to you that I am lying. There is not some kinda code conversation going on between us. I am even night cop and this allowed me an investigation on N0.
@Gova: Even night cop is often just a mechanic in place to stop a gamebreaking strategy called 'follow the cop' whereby cop claims real early and doc stays hidden and protects cop. This of often stopped by roleblocker (zelda) or macho cop (cop who can't be doc protected). This also answers peoples questions about my confidence in the prescence of a doc. Even if there's not a Doc I'd still direct them at me so scum don't even try killing me
You called X1's push on me 'trolling' - deflecting attention away from me and my wagon, seemed pointless - might as well let me get pressured. The rest is pure speculation, and with my actual lynch a real possibility I'll point out that X1's scum flip does not actually implicate you.
@Bold: you didn't ask me this, why are you acting like I'm dodging questions?. The answer is because I felt no need to, I've already got plenty of reads from this I don't need peoples opinions on you before I claimed.
@Italics: No. I think I'm catching scum. Why do you keep asking me this, I have a guilty and I'm lynching you. I'm not sidetracking, I'm trying to get you lynched. YOU are sidetracking by trying to get me to retract my claim. I don't gun for MVP, you of all people should know this. I play to win.
Oddly enough, th3kuzinator played his first forum board mafia game 11/20/2010. This is fairly recent and therefore suspicious that he would use a word such as "usually" when he probably is still fairly green around the edges. I'm not quite sure of the limitations I possess in posting information from other mafia games and will therefore proceed with some degree for caution.
You did a background check on me, huh? I am pretty impressed. I hope you are town, would make finding the scum 10x easier. Though it is true I started playing only 11 days ago, I have learned much. The fact that you are making so many well researched posts from the start could also be interpreted suspiciously as you may be getting info from your scum buddies. I doubt this is the case, though, as I know how you argue in the DH, so your intelligence makes sense.
Btw Acrostic, is your Quicktopic functioning alright?
I already expressed that my earlier posts all were RVS oriented and none of them were serious. My first serious post started when I said "no...I was fooling around in RVS, sue me."
These were all the people on Swiss' wagon silly. Kind of funny that you did not recognize that, considering you are on the list. Pay attention.
acRoStIC said:
I find it suspicious that you haven't bothered to verify if an n0 period existed. Instead of speculating you could have tried making a request to the moderator in order to answer your question, rather than making the assertion that there is no n0 period and therefore no n0 cop.
Gord did not change the thread title during 'night 0' nor did he post in the thread that night 0 had started. Irrelevant anyway because X1 said that he has a n0 cop guilty and then changed his mind and decided that it would be more plausible to say he got a guilty in the confirmation stage. Yeahhh, not buying it.
acrostic said:
Do you still believe that X1 is claiming a fake role in order to expose scum?
Yes. I get that he is serious...seriously trying to expose scum.
Scenario of what would have happened if Swiss was lynched:
Swiss flips scum --> X1: SEE I AM RIGHT, FOLLOW ME TO THE END OF THE GAME AND TOWN WINS!
Swiss flips town --> X1: Come on guys?! You actually believed a n0 cop guilty? The most standard play in the book? X, y, and z are scum because they hopped on Swiss' wagon for bad reasons.
scum#1 (sworddancer) said:
Swiss, you do relieze that if X1 really is lying, we can just lynch him toMarrow?
See my above reasoning. If x1 is lying, he will just play up the fact that too many people jumped on swiss' wagon for BS reasons and get one of them lynched.
x1 said:
@Sir B (and kinda kevin too) My role is even night cop, so I can cop N0, N2, N4 etc
In the beginning of the game you said you got the guilty in the confirmation period, not n0. Stick with a story and stop lying you big phony *sniff* Also n0 cops can never investigate any night after n0. You are either a n0 cop or a regular cop. Get that even night BS outta here.
counter claiming a claimed cop is NOT RVS, especially when the first claimer already said he was not joking, very clearly so.
You are misconstruing my claim of N0 cop. I could use my ability pre-game because I argued my case to Gboy that 0 was even, and all pregame is considered N0 (not true, but gboy believed it).
You also act as if I have this magic power to control the whole of town. If Swiss flips town why do you suddenly assume I'll be able to talk my way out of it? You also assumed I'd act in a certain way by making everyone follow me if swiss is scum. and that I'd call it all a joke toMorrow if he's town, despite me several times saying it is not in any way a joke.
That post took me awhile to construct, I did not refresh the page before posting.
I already stated that I though x1 is town, he is just using stupid methods to scum hunt.
As for you swiss...how you responded to x1's claim at first was a total omgus, but now that you have explained your reasoning I feel I can agree with your methods (they mirror mine :3). I feel like you are playing your normal townie game. I scum swiss would never have let himself be taken to L-1
However, according to rule #2: swiss is always scum, so...
lotsa post makin it hella hard 2 keep up with dat game.
b4 ppl go hoppin on dat swiss wagon imma ask sum questions first:
- what r we gunna do with dat x1 fella if swiss flips town?
- what r we gunna do with t3k if swiss flips scum?
with da current info we have im thinkin these r teh most important questions 2 answer and theyll give us them leads 2morrow, k?
tho im also kinda thinkin that we shouldn't talk about swiss n no1 else. like, id liek 2 hear ppls opinions on other players. not any1 specific but just in general thoughts on ppl other than swiss
That's a pretty big slippery slope there, th3kuzinator. Also, why do you think I'm scum?
@Gheb: To answer your question:
Now let me ask you a question, Gheb. Do you think, based off of the current informetion, Swiss should be lynched? Feel free to ignore this question if you want others to answer your question first.
I will go on and say that, at the rate things are going, a lot of Day 1 is going to be spent on this X1-Swiss ordeal.
You did a background check on me, huh? I am pretty impressed. I hope you are town, would make finding the scum 10x easier. Though it is true I started playing only 11 days ago, I have learned much. The fact that you are making so many well researched posts from the start could also be interpreted suspiciously as you may be getting info from your scum buddies. I doubt this is the case, though, as I know how you argue in the DH, so your intelligence makes sense.
I am lurking OverSwarm's FF6 thread and have been keeping tabs on the FF7 thread as I love the opening theme music on the first page. My visitor messages on Page 4 with Tom should substantiate that I have been lurking around Decisive Games for awhile. I was lucky in finding your first game to be honest. I was hitting up comment boxes and searching for your name specifically due to the fact that I knew that you were a fairly new player based off a comment in the Debate Hall Social Thread when you mentioned that your soul currently belongs to D-Games now or something along those lines. After reading your use of the word "usually" and all this over-familiarity, I became suspicious based on previous information you were telling us in the past. Please note that I am still suspicious of you.
th3kuzinator said:
Btw Acrostic, is your Quicktopic functioning alright?
I am not using Quicktopic and don't know how it is used for mafia play. But I can look it up on my own if telling me would hurt town.
th3kuzinator said:
Gord did not change the thread title during 'night 0' nor did he post in the thread that night 0 had started. Irrelevant anyway because X1 said that he has a n0 cop guilty and then changed his mind and decided that it would be more plausible to say he got a guilty in the confirmation stage. Yeahhh, not buying it.
Point considered. I was in class when most of this happened. Therefore I can't personally attest for a night 0 change in the thread title. I do suspect that X1 may have a PR in this game, just not the PR he is telling us about. Especially after receiving a warning from the moderator.
give me a break, think i would claim cop in 1st post if my sanity was not assured? I know who im investigating toNight and im confident i'll get a second guilty. Doc protect me and i have the win and MVP in the bag
Although I kinda do, since you now have to explain why you said "investigate toNight". I remembered you saying that as I was catching up and I'm glad Swiss caught it too.
Not sure who to believe anymore.
This needs to be discussed more, I'm still not sure what's going on between these two and it seems likely we'll be lynching one of them toDay. Hopefully we/I can look at other people after, though I wouldn't be opposed to spending the whole Day on this in order to get the most information out of it.
You provided NO explanation for those votes. People who do that are usually scum trying to get town lynched. What's more, you respond with a false strawman? You're getting desperate. My vote is happy where it is.
I do believe swiss's lateest evidence is quite convincing. Just saying.
You provided NO explanation for those votes. People who do that are usually scum trying to get town lynched. What's more, you respond with a false strawman? You're getting desperate. My vote is happy where it is.
I do believe swiss's lateest evidence is quite convincing. Just saying.
Now you may be asking yourself, how are those three posts related? Well, its quite simple. I think X1 is trying to find scum who want to quick lynch swiss. Too many people joined swiss' wagon willingly before even trying to discover the validity of x1's claim. I think some of those people are scum for trying to get a quick lynch out.
Now stay with me, its gonna get crazy complicated up in here.
I grouped ALL of the people that were on swiss' wagon (excluding x1 because I think he is town) and put them into ONE list.
HOLY **** THAT WAS TOUGH STUFF! Sorry I did not write that out before horse of darkness, I did not realize it would become that mathematically challenging.
Oh yeah and I am getting pretty desperate...pretty desperate to see you hang from the noose like the scum that you are
zing!
Now lets see your counter argument shall we?
smexy horse of darkness said:
You're trying to lead lynches on people for no shown reasons. All these people are probably town that you want to lynch and win (as a matter of fact, the "we could mean him and his maf buddies) Also, you could be trying to imitate cello's style, which, at first glance, is usually taken as looking like town.Thus, imitating that style would make you look more town (not that everyone who plays like this besides cello is scum, just pointing this out (not as big as my first reason))
1. So because you feel I am scummy, that makes all of the people on my list townies and therefore free from examination. pssssssssssssssh. You also do not even back up this claim by giving specific character reads and you use the word probably. How more unconvincing can you be?
2. What. Are. You. Trying. To. Insinuate. Here?! You are saying that Cellos playstyle is automatically town?! LOL. Also, me imitating his style is an elaborate hoax to look like town, but actually be scum? LOL. You give me too much credit. I am not that smart.
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