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Questions after my recent Tournament.
Bold indicate my questions.
Okay, Almost every fox there that could waveshine, and shffl well could beat my Zelda. I lost a few chances at taking off a Fox's stock because I screwed up my chain grab but rather. When I got the chance to graba few of them near 0%, They DI'd and I followed and hit grab quickly but it felt out of reach. At that low if they DI that far should I just Dash attack or something?
I got 2stocked by GAwes' Captain falcon, and 3 stocked by Chaddd's Ganon. lol ^^
which was fun.
My friend "wanting to win" Wanted me to play Shiek or Marth and claimed I should be them in teams. I am pretty good at playing Marth in 1v1 But I don't think he's such a good team player. So Despite his advice I played Zelda with is falco or peach anyways. I'd occasionally get free B-air's and F-airs everywhere, because my friend TACO's enemy didn't expect me to drop my enemy whether it's via farore's wind or just dropping down off a ledge from a small stage, and I b-air'd and f-air'd. Plus if I got wave shined, the potential for him to shoot a lazer at me fast (Assuming my friend didn't have tunnel vision) Was there. I'm not saying Zelda in teams is the new era or anything. It just worked out alot better than I expected. I did get a Dash Attack --> Dash Attack--> Grab--> Up throw --> Grab --> Kick on a fox. LOL and he goes "Dude get this Zelda please.". Me and my friend TACO need to not suck at teams though. we did get tunnel vision a bit much.
I need Zelda vs (Good Fox) experience.
Anyone else think Counterpicking peach on Brinstar is a good idea? Man was I mobile in that stage, and the left death zone is really close making kicks in that direction deadly.
IHaveSpaceBalls (IHSB) Samus player, had a problem with zelda. Everytime he shot a charge shot after knocking me up, it was reflected. And I realized Samus, nearly any move she hits you with on your shield sets you up for a kick out of shield. Anyone else think Samus fights are pretty even match ups? or maybe he just didn't know how to play Zelda?
I beat alot of shieks there with Zelda. But when they countered with a low ceiling lvl I just changed to marth. I'm not Zelda exclusive but I'd like to play her anyways. If everything is against my Zelda no point in climbing mount Everest to get some gold when the Appalachian mountains are right there with the same prize.
I beat quite a few peaches to ^^ In fact I didn't lose to any peaches I played with Zelda, Except I didn't get to plaly Xif (In 1v1s) Did play some teams. Man that guy likes to talk.. ALOT. lol ^^
I learned one thing GAwes showed me I didn't think about with Zelda. You guys probably already do it. but I learned to drop from a ledge, jump up and back, and kick toward the stage with your heel at the very end. which is good against people who try to spike you while ur farore wind stalling. Whether farore win hits them, or they are real close to the edge. After The kick zelda grabs the edge again nearly instantly so you not so open with having to recover with Up+B. Basically Drop, jump back, kick forward, fall back into the stage. It's not as easy as it seems. I had to practice for a couple hours to get it down. I already knew aobut the back-air to regrab the ledge. Just not being able to Forward air the edge.
Also, I nearly mastered the harder version of stalling which is safer. GAwes told me dropping down and jump to Up+B to stall is good. but if you drop back and up. It gives Zelda more invincibility frames? I'm not sure if that's true, or if it's just the fact that Zelda is better spaced from the edge.
In teams I was taken out of the Winners bracket by Chaddd and Wes first fight. then by Gerbil and Prac in Losers like 4 matches later? roughly.
In Singles. I was takin out by Chaddd first round lol, and taking out by a Fox-Falco player who goes by C in losers bracket eventually. Nearly beat him with jiggly puff though for my counter pick.
Anyone else who's been to a tournament tend to play Lazy after a while? like you lose your excitement to win?
Dunno Just want to make sure I'm not the only one. I played really sluggish later in the day. after playing so many friendlies and team battles.
Also I learned that uh Isai's "Don't get hit" advice is has more merit thatn I thought.. Cuz technically, you should treat almost every hit like it'll take off a stock cuz quite frankly alot of characters can.
I made it out of pools With Zelda. Last time I played Solely marth at this tournament and didn't make it out of pools.
Bold indicate my questions.
Okay, Almost every fox there that could waveshine, and shffl well could beat my Zelda. I lost a few chances at taking off a Fox's stock because I screwed up my chain grab but rather. When I got the chance to graba few of them near 0%, They DI'd and I followed and hit grab quickly but it felt out of reach. At that low if they DI that far should I just Dash attack or something?
I got 2stocked by GAwes' Captain falcon, and 3 stocked by Chaddd's Ganon. lol ^^
which was fun.
My friend "wanting to win" Wanted me to play Shiek or Marth and claimed I should be them in teams. I am pretty good at playing Marth in 1v1 But I don't think he's such a good team player. So Despite his advice I played Zelda with is falco or peach anyways. I'd occasionally get free B-air's and F-airs everywhere, because my friend TACO's enemy didn't expect me to drop my enemy whether it's via farore's wind or just dropping down off a ledge from a small stage, and I b-air'd and f-air'd. Plus if I got wave shined, the potential for him to shoot a lazer at me fast (Assuming my friend didn't have tunnel vision) Was there. I'm not saying Zelda in teams is the new era or anything. It just worked out alot better than I expected. I did get a Dash Attack --> Dash Attack--> Grab--> Up throw --> Grab --> Kick on a fox. LOL and he goes "Dude get this Zelda please.". Me and my friend TACO need to not suck at teams though. we did get tunnel vision a bit much.
I need Zelda vs (Good Fox) experience.
Anyone else think Counterpicking peach on Brinstar is a good idea? Man was I mobile in that stage, and the left death zone is really close making kicks in that direction deadly.
IHaveSpaceBalls (IHSB) Samus player, had a problem with zelda. Everytime he shot a charge shot after knocking me up, it was reflected. And I realized Samus, nearly any move she hits you with on your shield sets you up for a kick out of shield. Anyone else think Samus fights are pretty even match ups? or maybe he just didn't know how to play Zelda?
I beat alot of shieks there with Zelda. But when they countered with a low ceiling lvl I just changed to marth. I'm not Zelda exclusive but I'd like to play her anyways. If everything is against my Zelda no point in climbing mount Everest to get some gold when the Appalachian mountains are right there with the same prize.
I beat quite a few peaches to ^^ In fact I didn't lose to any peaches I played with Zelda, Except I didn't get to plaly Xif (In 1v1s) Did play some teams. Man that guy likes to talk.. ALOT. lol ^^
I learned one thing GAwes showed me I didn't think about with Zelda. You guys probably already do it. but I learned to drop from a ledge, jump up and back, and kick toward the stage with your heel at the very end. which is good against people who try to spike you while ur farore wind stalling. Whether farore win hits them, or they are real close to the edge. After The kick zelda grabs the edge again nearly instantly so you not so open with having to recover with Up+B. Basically Drop, jump back, kick forward, fall back into the stage. It's not as easy as it seems. I had to practice for a couple hours to get it down. I already knew aobut the back-air to regrab the ledge. Just not being able to Forward air the edge.
Also, I nearly mastered the harder version of stalling which is safer. GAwes told me dropping down and jump to Up+B to stall is good. but if you drop back and up. It gives Zelda more invincibility frames? I'm not sure if that's true, or if it's just the fact that Zelda is better spaced from the edge.
In teams I was taken out of the Winners bracket by Chaddd and Wes first fight. then by Gerbil and Prac in Losers like 4 matches later? roughly.
In Singles. I was takin out by Chaddd first round lol, and taking out by a Fox-Falco player who goes by C in losers bracket eventually. Nearly beat him with jiggly puff though for my counter pick.
Anyone else who's been to a tournament tend to play Lazy after a while? like you lose your excitement to win?
Dunno Just want to make sure I'm not the only one. I played really sluggish later in the day. after playing so many friendlies and team battles.
Also I learned that uh Isai's "Don't get hit" advice is has more merit thatn I thought.. Cuz technically, you should treat almost every hit like it'll take off a stock cuz quite frankly alot of characters can.
I made it out of pools With Zelda. Last time I played Solely marth at this tournament and didn't make it out of pools.