ZOMBIES! Mafia - Who Survived the Apocalypse?

[Wots All This Then?]

Gorf visited WATT last night.

DISCUSS

Rake. I'mma ask you a simple question, and you're going to give me a simple answer:


What is the most likely role Gorf has in this scenario?

 

[Wots All This Then?]

EBWOP: Keeping in mind we weren't

A) Dead
B) Abducted
C) Roleblocked

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

keep in mind that another dude died

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

and it was Ran

 

[Wots All This Then?]

Gheb died you dunce. Ran got abducted. We were left alone aside from apparently gorf. Logic says if the major presumably scum nas went elsewhere than whats left aimed at the claimed cop is...?

 

[Wots All This Then?]

Okay.

What are you saying Gorf is.

Vote: Rake

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

It implies he's doc but I don't like the smell of that at all man

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

also you should feel bad about that vote, you really should

 

[#HBC | Mac]

gawd this game

 

[Wots All This Then?]

Why?
With all the information present why out what is most likely the protective role? And why is it a problem that a presumably doc went to the claimed cop?

 

[Wots All This Then?]

So you understood that and you STILL decided it was a good idea to out.


I'm not retracting that vote.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

i understood what it could be

 

[Wots All This Then?]

Why?
With all the information present why out what is most likely the protective role? And why is it a problem that a presumably doc went to the claimed cop?

 

[No Lynch]

Soup aint even discussing anything with me in the qt :/

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

The first issue is to my recollection Gorf was nowehere near townreading you ot at least not enough to use a presumable doc on you, unless Ryu's flip mad him magically friends with you.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

First implies there are more

 

[Wots All This Then?]

The first issue is to my recollection Gorf was nowehere near townreading you ot at least not enough to use a presumable doc on you, unless Ryu's flip mad him magically friends with you.

... he's been saying he believed us all day.

I think you need to back up your Moira vote, as in right now.

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm gonna murder Rake.

I'm gonna do it. Sang ain't even holding me back but I am flabbergasted.

Did you SERIOUSLY just out out Doc just because?!

For the love of Christ people cannot play PRs in this game to save their life.

When I get off work there better be someone dead or the thread closed because I am ***** slapping someone.

 

[Circus]

god that game, i really never should be protown as town

I actually wasn't even thinking about KvK. Good catch.

Why?
With all the information present why out what is most likely the protective role? And why is it a problem that a presumably doc went to the claimed cop?

On the flipside, why would scum out this when he could just keep it to himself? If he's scum, then he already knows what Gorf is likely to be, therefore outing it wouldn't be a problem for us (at least not MORE of a problem). Actually reads more like Rake town doin' a silly.

Although I've got to tell you, I have a hard time believing we have a Cop-Doc combo in this set-up, especially if scum don't even have a Roleblocker. The Follow The Cop is strong with this one.

Was also REALLY expecting Rake's information to have something to do with Moira based on his "Moira just needs to die" stance earlier.

Not entirely sure what I'm making of all this yet, but I don't like the mess.

 

[Circus]

Would really like to hear from Gorf.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Soup aint even discussing anything with me in the qt :/

I took a break as I haven't been motivated as much to seriously play mafia, but rest assured that I think Rake's claim is terrible

but he's probably town
and gorf
well i feel bad for gorf

we should vote rockin

 

[#HBC | J]

I'm on my phone at work and can't express myself through gifs.

I feel like a caged animal.

Someone halp.

 

[Circus]

I took a break as I haven't been motivated as much to seriously play mafia, but rest assured that I think Rake's claim is terrible

but he's probably town
and gorf
well i feel bad for gorf

we should vote rockin

No you shouldn't. You should focus on the much more pressing discussion at hand, which Rockin has nothing at all to do with.

Or explain to me why Rockin is of such scuminess that he would be worth the tangent.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Well, what do you think about all this? You don't think they all could be town? A lot of your theories are based on outguessing the mod; do you think one of them is individually scummy?

 

[No Lynch]

I took a break as I haven't been motivated as much to seriously play mafia, but rest assured that I think Rake's claim is terrible

but he's probably town
and gorf
well i feel bad for gorf

we should vote rockin

No bro, Watt needs to die to the greatest degree of maximum.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

No bro, Watt needs to die to the greatest degree of maximum.

Let's pretend he flips town? Where then? Gorf? Rake? I'm just trying to think about how useful it would be killing off any of those three because to me they've guaranteed a night kill or abduction from the indy at this rate.

 

[Circus]

Well, what do you think about all this? You don't think they all could be town? A lot of your theories are based on outguessing the mod; do you think one of them is individually scummy?

You can call it outguessing the mod, but there is a certain sensibility to the how to make a not broken game, and thereby one that would pass inspection into the queue. Based on the results of N1, we can pretty safely assume that scum wouldn't have an answer to a Doc-Cop combo. If they had a roleblock, they would have used it last Night. This suggests they have to rely on the kill + Jan to control information flow in this set-up. They could have conceivably opted for Gheb over WATT last Night out of paranoia, but regardless, they have clearly shown that they don't have an answer to a Doc'd Cop, which would be crazy if we have both roles.

This suggests that Gorf is not actually the role we are currently assuming he is, or the ever-present and valid theory that WATT is not the role he claims to be.

This is all pretty good info to work with, as opposed to just voting Rockin because it's easy.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I will say though I don't why WATT isn't seeing Rake doing this as town and just instantly voted him, that piques my interest at the very least.

You can call it outguessing the mod, but there is a certain sensibility to the how to make a not broken game, and thereby one that would pass inspection into the queue. Based on the results of N1, we can pretty safely assume that scum wouldn't have an answer to a Doc-Cop combo. If they had a roleblock, they would have used it last Night. This suggests they have to rely on the kill + Jan to control information flow in this set-up. They could have conceivably opted for Gheb over WATT last Night out of paranoia, but regardless, they have clearly shown that they don't have an answer to a Doc'd Cop, which would be crazy if we have both roles.

This suggests that Gorf is not actually the role we are currently assuming he is, or the ever-present and valid theory that WATT is not the role he claims to be.

This is all pretty good info to work with, as opposed to just voting Rockin because it's easy.

Alright, alright! I'll delve into some WIFOM if I have to, I suppose I can't just ignore it as we do have a lot on the table.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

im kinda mad about this because if i fought zen about watt and he turns out to be right about the situation i will feel super stupid and stubborn enough but yeah im open to it now i guess i just wanted to assume things were would work themselves out eventually

i want to see what gorf says about it also

 

[Wots All This Then?]

I actually wasn't even thinking about KvK. Good catch.

On the flipside, why would scum out this when he could just keep it to himself? If he's scum, then he already knows what Gorf is likely to be, therefore outing it wouldn't be a problem for us (at least not MORE of a problem). Actually reads more like Rake town doin' a silly.

Although I've got to tell you, I have a hard time believing we have a Cop-Doc combo in this set-up, especially if scum don't even have a Roleblocker. The Follow The Cop is strong with this one.

Was also REALLY expecting Rake's information to have something to do with Moira based on his "Moira just needs to die" stance earlier.

Not entirely sure what I'm making of all this yet, but I don't like the mess.

But which do you really find more likely. Rake deciding town needs to know immediately about Gorf's PR when he's already been semi-cleared, or Rake coming in looking for some easy cred on a PR out after having several people voice willingness to lynch him toDay?

We both know Rake can be dumb sometimes, but this would be outing two PRs when the one being investigated wasn't in any trouble and definitely now has trouble upon being outed. If Rake is scum he doesn't lose anything from telling us who is likely a protective as he'd already know who to take care of tonight, he only stands to gain cred on being a PR himself (there's no way he'd claim any of this if he wasn't even as scum). Scum Watcher+Tracker would be a pretty dynamite combo as well, and I just cannot see town Rake deciding this was worth doing without having a more selfish motive.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

We know Rake, and he's not this dumb. He has to be doing this for a reason.

 

[Dooms]

Just get Gord to confirm Rake's info. I don't see a reason why he shouldn't confirm this, either.

It's way more easy to prove than WATT's claim, since WATT would know Gord would come up town on an investigate if he was scum.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

It implies he's doc but I don't like the smell of that at all man

you are literally dreadful at this game. @everybody this is why my vote is on rake. because he is a FANTASTIC policy lynch. get it now?!

*sigh*

you are a burden to all towns you are in rake. idk if you realize it but, like i say every game you play, you are. **** you rake.

this is me saying rake is too unbelievably stupid to not be town. but we should lynch him so he doesn't aid scum anymore. this is a SERIOUS offer.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

We know Rake, and he's not this dumb. He has to be doing this for a reason.

yo shut the living **** up. rake is as smart as an actual rake. he has no ulterior motive. he is ********. and the fact that you, the one who pulled the stunt that happened yesterDay, are defending him, does nothing more than prove that. congrats, you're both dumb-as-post town, but you're lucky that YOUR bonehead move worked. cuz rakes just proved that he is a self absorbed, self entitled poison to town.

not mad. just... flabbergasted.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

Tfw Gorf thinks you're defending Rake.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

>we know rake.

>he's not this dumb.

>he has to be doing this for a reason.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

We didn't say it was a town inspired reason. We actually stated otherwise

 

[Wots All This Then?]

He might just be kvk levels of raketarded this game but not sure yet

 

[Ashemu]

Rake is idiot town, WATT is still scum (yes there is totally a cop and doc and tracker in the same game) and his vote on Rake is seventy levels of horrible

there obviously isn't multiple scumteams, just tell me when you guys have lynched watt
@ #HBC | Mac vote watt pls, i know you were down with that lynch d1 and nothing adds up about his claim

 

[Ashemu]

as for why rake is town: if hes scum, he keeps this info to himself and silently shoots gorf tonight