ZOMBIES! Mafia - Who Survived the Apocalypse?

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also not cool to be acting like that the day after a temp ban for saying. "Women who get ***** deserve it"

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Really don't wanna end the day with frozen not having posted and seems like watt is L-1

Will respond to ppl later, need to catch up with recent posts

Pretty sure @ #HBC | Dark Horse has it wrong in that votecount. There are 5 votes on WATT, not 6.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

@ #HBC | Mac a lot of the point on WATT apply to Gheb even more so. WATT's inactivity also plays a part like Rake said.

I like No Lynch's case on Gorf, but not so how convincing it is on Gorf but the effort and believe ability of it of how NL believes his own case.

Still this I this is early day play is lynch worthy, that reaction and posts around me were grimy.

Now Gorf? He's giving me vibes of megaman unlimited. Where I don't think he believes what he is pushes and is pushing to get a lunch not lynch scum. His vote on no lynch? valid, his vote on Ran, he voted later of I remember and the speed of that wagon bothered me a bit.

Vote in Gheb, don't like.

That said, I don't all three of my don't likes are linked but I think scum is on those three and they are scummy slots.

So I'm going to a bar at an anime convention, I just won a Brawl tournament there. (Also no one has any Lucario plushies >:E)

@rake I want you to confront me, you seem to think I can scum but I want to know where this is coming from for you.

@ Ashemu are you trying to white knight everyone?

Ypu seem just not here man. Tell me what i am missing. Give me a strong Ryu read, or even just a strong feeeling you have, i feel like you've been in the background but i want to believe im just misinterpreting you, are you waiting for something to happen ? What do you make of all the WATT conjecture ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Vote: Ryu

till i get answers

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Also id love to have more skin in this game but literally nothing is happening
this 10 day bs means no one is feelign pressured to use time to any sort of advantage

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ypu seem just not here man. Tell me what i am missing. Give me a strong Ryu read, or even just a strong feeeling you have, i feel like you've been in the background but i want to believe im just misinterpreting you, are you waiting for something to happen ? What do you make of all the WATT conjecture ?

I want Gorf dead, that last series of posts on Joey is not town in the slighest. Part if it is his post about being an elder but I don't believe the crap he us saying a about Joey and expecting us to buy it.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Gheb? Iunno.
I spose so.
Unvote vote moira

Why did you do this at this time ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

I want Gorf dead, that last series of posts on Joey is not town in the slighest. Part if it is his post about being an elder but I don't believe the crap he us saying a about Joey and expecting us to buy it.

I'll read it over again. I kinda feel like Gorf's throwing words at Joey and hoping something sticks.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Did Dietz or orbo make this vote?

Why did you find it significant one way or another and do you agree with Moria they did it to get in good with me ? Do you find it opportunistic, also, how do you think gorf and Gheb can connect ?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

The amount of "this is x,y or z play by this person so it's not a tell " is too damn high in thsi thread

 

[No Lynch]

When talking about the bolded, get the **** outta here with that suggestion. We gain 100% nothing from a FF lynch and would just be PL'ing an inactive slot. Replace him out and get an actual player in the slot and actually posting to people then maybe we can talk about that slot.

@ #HBC | Mac : How confident are you in GhebScum? Like you can give me a 1-10 number and that'd be fine. I just want to see how sold you are on it. @ #HBC | Gorf can answer the same question.

I know it's against dgames culture to lynch inactives and I know you hate it in particular because you're always against it when we Axel. However this is probably town's biggest flaw. I'm not even pushing it though with gorf being very much obvscum & watt n ruy actively coasting, so don't worry.

@ No Lynch : Can you refrain from responding to a case that wasn't against your slot and let the slot themselves defend from it? Even if you found the case to be flawed, Joey should have been the first to respond to it since it is coming as an attack from Gorf and would have helped others read the two slots themselves. I know this is coming from the Soup-side so yeah. Don't do that.

All last night's posts were by me (Zen side). Have you looked at gorf's case in full? Looking at the context of each of the quotes he pulled from Joey? It is clear that he is twisting the context of each quote, and I believe he is doing this for the sake of having reasoning behind his reads which I believe are artificial. Tell if you see the same thing.

Normally I'd allow the defender to respond first, especially if it were someone we needed content from, but gorf's post was blatant reaching (as was his gheb case). God be dammed if I have to read another joey wall exchange over blatantly ridiculous points-

*joey gorf wall exchange*


Vader.noooooooo

 

[No Lynch]

Actively being ignored by macman, ruy, n gorf.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

What is pushing Ryu supposed to do for us?

 

[No Lynch]

Gheb can you also tell me if you see the same thing in gorf's posts.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

???

 

[#HBC | J]

High-level debating skills being displayed right there!

Could you, like, not? Instead of petty comments you should be trying to find mafia.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I've already found one of them and have my vote on him :3

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Also not cool to be acting like that the day after a temp ban for saying. "Women who get ***** deserve it"

Well.......

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Also thanks for proving that the case against me is ******** for siding with it, i really appreciate it

 

[#HBC | Mac]

We really just need to lynch one of these *****es (WATT, Ruy, Gorf).

@ #HBC | Mac how in the actual **** do you read gorf as town when his 3 lynch choices are ****ing Gheb, Rockin, and Joey. JOEY. These are probably the safest, fakest lynch choices possible. What is scummy about either of these three players?

i don´t read him as town

not reiterating my case on gheb

dunno why you´re asking me what´s scummy about these players, im not the one with scumreads on them.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

This is typical Joey play. He's white knighted before. And I'm pretty sure he's white knighted Ruy in the exact same manner. White Knighting isn't scummy in itself anyway if the player believes town is misguided. You n Mac have been saying how we are letting people get away with a bunch of stuff because it's a part of their meta, but most of the points you've been making have simply been basic tells that are simply a part of someone's meta. Fake, easy, surface tells.

having a hard time seeing how this makes any sense. we say don´t give ppl a pass because of a meta but you say Gorf not giving Joey a pass because of joeys meta is scummy/contradictory?

fwiw i think the joey suspicion is pretty gross

This isn't me coming to Joey's rescue btw, this is me pointing out the blatant twisting of context to fit your artificial scum read. In the same way you did with your Gheb case. (See #685). @ #HBC | Mac still hasn't explained to me how any of that case makes sense.

idk what you´re confused about. The case on gheb is that he hasn´t shown any town initiative despite being around the thread. He hadn´t been commenting on anything that occured or given anything beyond very cursory reads and statements (that mirrored **** that had already been said in the thread). And the only times gheb even offered these pieces of info was when when ppl called him out on something.

When i say Gheb was reactionary, i don´t mean he was only commenting in reactionm to **** ppl said or did in thread, that would have actually shown scumhunting intent. I mean he ONLY commented when he was being mentioned in a negative light and he hadn´t been offering any new / useful insights.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

hah i get the context of that gorf post now... silly ass ****

my lynch pool is as follows: rake > gheb/frozen > watt > ryu
(i´ll prolly expand on these a bit more when i get my laptop back from the apple store and do another reread)

whoever said nothings happening, i disagree.. the game doesn´t feel stalled. Though it is a long as **** D1 (funnily enough also similar to phoenix wright in that respect)

@ #HBC | Red Ryu can you expand on how that gorf post makes you think he´s scum?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

oh and apparently my vote is on watt?!

unvote vote gheb

 

[#HBC | Mac]

ebwop: rake > gheb/frozen >>> watt > ryu

still willing to lynch everyone in that list

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I have shown plenty of town initiative. You have just choose to not look at it.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Or you like choose to not show it

 

[No Lynch]

???

Have you looked at gorf's case in full? Looking at the context of each of the quotes he pulled from Joey? It is clear that he is twisting the context of each quote, and I believe he is doing this for the sake of having reasoning behind his reads which I believe are artificial. Tell if you see the same thing.

Vote: Gorf

@Moira join me.
@-Masquerain- join me.
@ ~ Gheb ~ join me.
@Rockin join me.
@Wots All This Then? join me.
@ Ashemu join me.
@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake join me.
@ ranmaru join me.
@ #HBC | Gorf join me.

Moira gorf is scum. If you're not scum, then lynch him with me. Why are you dead set on WATT? Save him for the morrow. The reluctance of peeps to lynch gorf will give us a lot more than WATT in which everyone has supported. Please answer me on gorf. Your reluctance to vote or speak of him is idk...

Ashemu I believe you stated you were down for this, yes?

Rake I believe you stated you were down for this, yes? Have you voted this game? Are you able to???

WATT since you aren't going to do anything else, help me lynch gorf.

Joey I know you're down. Same reasoning posed to you as to Moira in why we should lynch gorf > WATT.



nb4 gorf, moira, macman scum team.

 

[No Lynch]

nb4 gorf, moira, macman scum team.

That would really suck.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Great scum reads bro

 

[#HBC | Mac]

As if I'm not getting nkilled tonight

 

[No Lynch]

having a hard time seeing how this makes any sense. we say don´t give ppl a pass because of a meta but you say Gorf not giving Joey a pass because of joeys meta is scummy/contradictory?

>You point something out that's a part of someone's character (i.e meta) as being a scum tell.
>Peeps tell you that's simply a part of their character (meta).
>You state peeps should stop letting people off with scummy stuff simply because it's their character.

What I'm saying is that YES we should, because lynching someone off of their surface characteristics that they display every single game regardless of alignment is incredibly fallible. And yet you're still on Gheb for his middle ground reactionary play, a characteristic he displays D1 every game regardless of alignment.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

That play is scummy to me regardless of meta.

I see what you're saying though but it's not gonna make me give gheb a pass for that. (Also I've not known of gheb to be like that but I could easily be wrong since I haven't been playing for a while -- can you point me to some games where he's acted similarly)

Out of game: it's terrible to let ppl to have a scummy meta since it makes it harder for turn in every game they're in. In ghebs case if he is scum he can not really contribute d1 BC that's his meta and that would be beneficial for him but not for town. Same with everyone else's scummy meta.

 

[ranmaru]

Ok I will do an indepth post for my phone, actually I won't.

Excuse to continue to sideline.

Vote: No Lynch (hydra)

scummy.

I don't like how he addressed me rereading his first comment to me. And his continuing posting back at me is making me feel worse about the slot.

Bringing this up again. This is weak reasoning, that he hadn't done much to lead up to. It was a sudden vote that he placed when I asked him about NL. Put simply, I feel this was a fake vote, only voting on because at the time, I had a solid reason to be voting NL.

Can you guys stop wall trading? I'm literally ignoring any wall post that is longer that I have to super scroll for it. Only Evil Eue and Maybe J can get me to read a wall.

Gheb/no lynch/Gorf is my lynch pool today

Anti-town. He also has no excuse because I provided a summary for all the wall naysayers. He only wants to ignore the case.

I like No Lynch's case on Gorf, but not so how convincing it is on Gorf but the effort and believe ability of it of how NL believes his own case. Still this I this is early day play is lynch worthy, that reaction and posts around me were grimy.

Now Gorf? He's giving me vibes of megaman unlimited. Where I don't think he believes what he is pushes and is pushing to get a lunch not lynch scum. His vote on no lynch? valid, his vote on Ran, he voted later of I remember and the speed of that wagon bothered me a bit.

Red, he is simply keeping his NL lynch option open, by saying that he likes his case, which means he prefers Gorf first before NL, while saying that he intends to keep NL in his lynch pool.

We really just need to lynch one of these *****es (WATT, Ruy, Gorf).

I agree. Vote Ruy again. You down?

Ruy isn't doing any of his own work. His early vote on NL doesn't seem genuine, and then he comes out of the woodworks to vote Gorf for some ****talk.

Unvote Vote: Red Ryu

@ Shun Goku Satsu Rake

Join me

@ Ashemu

You join me too. I see more scum from Ruy than Gord. Especially with his latest vote on Gord.

@ #HBC | Mac

Get on the wagon bro.

 

[ranmaru]

To clarify further, Ruy not doing work means: Fake vote on NL, sheepy vote on Gord because he likes NL's case while still keeping him as a lynch option.

 

[ranmaru]

Ok, but this is not a stance. Make one.

I say this because this is the most Ryu has done wrt Gorf. If he had really suspected him for:

Now Gorf? He's giving me vibes of megaman unlimited. Where I don't think he believes what he is pushes and is pushing to get a lunch not lynch scum. His vote on no lynch? valid, his vote on Ran, he voted later of I remember and the speed of that wagon bothered me a bit

.

He said he was getting vibes from Gorf that seemed to be similar to megaman maf, which means scummeta. Yet he didn't push Gorf at all. He said his vote on NL was valid, so it wasn't that. It was his vote on me that he disliked because of the speed of my early wagon. Yet he never stated this at that time. He simply told Gorf to clarify his stance. But now he votes Gorf for something that doesn't seem to be telling of alignment. It feels misplaced, as misplaced as his early NL vote.

This means Ryu isn't doing work.

 

[ranmaru]

There's four votes on Ryu actually

rake you can stay on

 

[ranmaru]

Correction: Three. Cuz nl is not on anymore.

 

[Ashemu]

this is dragging like **** over-a-week long days are dumb

Vote: Red Ryu

 

[Ashemu]

re: lynches:
ryu: this lynch is good
watt: this lynch is also good but not as good
gorf: this lynch is above average but id rather off somebody producing little so we dont have to worry about them later. d1 is the best time for this. also stop being an asshole
gheb: ok i dont really think youre scum but its hard to not think youre scum when you havent ****ing done anything in ages. do something

 

[Ashemu]

joey: is still town, fight me......