ZOMBIES! Mafia - Who Survived the Apocalypse?

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

13 dollars*

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

M

ryu please dont do this sideliney catch-up **** when you dont have a single decent case to your name. alternately please keep it up so it's easier to lynch you. but if youre town then read the damn game and tell us who the mafias are and why

Ok I will do an indepth post for my phone, actually I won't.

Case on point I underestimated. When this game was gonna start, at an anime convention ATM.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Underestimated when game would start, at finals week after which I Go up a con.

 

[No Lynch]

We really just need to lynch one of these ******* (WATT, Ruy, Gorf).

@ #HBC | Mac how in the actual **** do you read gorf as town when his 3 lynch choices are ****ing Gheb, Rockin, and Joey. JOEY. These are probably the safest, fakest lynch choices possible. What is scummy about either of these three players?

 

[No Lynch]

Gheb isn't a play today.

this analysis. shallow. everything said about his mentioning of superficial reads and not backing things up are accurate analysis of his play thus far, and his first paragraph is total bull****. the best thing he's got is the weird insistence of so many things being "regardless of alignment" but it's as if being bad and dumb automatically = being scummy, which i know gheb doesn't believe.

Can you explain to me how the first paragraph is BS?

 

[No Lynch]

lol why am I even so angry right now. I just get so bored stalling a game for peeps to post stuff only for them to come in the thread and not do it or John or talk about their girlfriend.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Guys what the hell? This is what Ryu does in every game. What is different here than any other town Ryu game?

this is joey's first post in the game that didn't involve haha rvs and looking back it bugs me. why was this a warranted statement? his next post clarifies that it's in response to a question of ash's push on em but... "guys what the hell this is what ruy does in every game?" it just feels like THE right thing to say, especially when it's very well known that this is THE CORRECT thing to say about ruy's abysmal play. just a feel but... it just bugs me, especially when this 180 comes immediately after:

Yeah. I don't see most of the questions as pointless, and I'm sure you're getting things from them, but I could understand it if someone thought your questions were pointless. I've also thought the same thing about your questions and hounded on you for it in a somewhat recent game if I recall correctly.

"guys (well really just ash cuz nobody else is grillin ruy yet) lay off of ruy! he does this every game! but of course i CAN see why one may think your questions are pointless, so i'm just gonna throw what i said in the trash."

also the exchange between joey and ruy is kinda awkward but nothing i can objectively call scummy, just... idk out of place. especially how drawn out it was. but ahh well.

Vote: Ranmaru

Since there are less votes on him, I guess I'll do it.

Ranmaru is the only direction I see that I really wanna push right now. I've already stated what I distaste about him.

Just call me Joey btw. It's more simple that way.

at this point joey's sole mention of discontent with ran came in response to his case on nl, the one from mad early on that was too ridiculous to comprehend. it's a very easy stance to take and am surprised at this point that townjoey has no more to say about anything else. this was his post showing his dislike for the slot:

Ryu don't fail a class! You got this! (although I failed one as well it's okay I'll be here for you <3)

I'm fine with a Ranmaru push. The whole voting No Lynch for something he's done in a scum game before thing is kind of a load of **** and the vote in general looks very opportunistic. The Ashemu vote is very poorly explained and it looks like he just threw an accusation to throw an accusation, which looks really bad considering Ashemu was SO easy to jump on after she jumped on the NL wagon because of her opinion of the wagon prior to her vote. Along with that, his 229 is really disgusting. Specifically the line "Opportunistic in the sense that you hard defend No Lynch as a scumbuddy, but decide to pile on when there is a major support for his death or at least a major discomfort with his slot." Why would Ashemu wait to jump on after one more person votes the slot? The amount of pressure on the slot didn't realistically change much at all. An array of people were voting No Lynch already, and adding one more person didn't really add much to the pressure aspect. I don't understand how you can accuse Ashemu of going from hard defense to busing when she already showed slight distaste in the slot prior to jumping on the wagon and she had her own reasoning for joining the wagon either way (which isn't weak if you don't think about meta by the way).

Definitely don't wanna throw him at L-2 already though. I'll keep my vote off only because of that.

this happened on PAGE 8, and the vast majority of his disliking of the slot came from like the pre pg 7 era when he was active in the thread. why didn't he say anything about ran then hmm? CONVENIENTLY ENOUGH, guess what happened on pg 7? a ran pile on, that's what happened. also CONVENIENTLY ENOUGH is that this just happens to be the next post from him. why was none of this mentioned before? did joey just... have a revelation? did the lightbulb just switch on after the whole maybe iunno finding ash sorta scummy thing just dropped? the map of these events doesn't feel right. and what does he do? just plops his ass on the armchair and says that ran is the only direction he feels good about taking. all other avenues? naaaaah we have ran.

Is there a reason why we're not voting Ranmaru anymore?

Like, he hasn't done anything that makes me feel better about his ****.

@******** people: why is this guy not getting crap for coasting his way when this particular post happens on ****ing page 11? sure i make some lazy ill driven comments but since i'm more direct about my mud slinging I'M THE BAD GUY. yah.

So instead of responding to my actual thoughts on you, you call me wishy washy and say I'm not committing to anything. Also, nice job assuming my first post was just responding to Ashemu. Soup was also getting on him for the exact same thing. Along with that, I stated my thoughts on Ashemu herself after I made that post.

I didn't think of you because you weren't around nearly as much as the other slots. It was mostly referring to WOTT, Gord, Ashemu, Ryu, and NL. I honestly tune you out in RVS because of the type of questions you ask. Sorry... I'm definitely 100% guilty of that though.

Also, good job ignoring the fact that my vote was basically on you. I even stated that my vote was pretty much on you and the only reason I wasn't voting you was that multiple people were on you. You're basically voting me for being wishy-washy and not using the bold vote command. So convincing!

I don't understand what else I should be doing right now when I'm still waiting on you to comment on my push towards you. I'm not going to sit here and be like "these people will work well with Ranmaru" when you're not responding to what I've said about you so I can actually further my read. I've stated to multiple people that I've already posted reasoning on my scum read towards you so that you'd actually respond to it, and instead of actually responding to what I've said, you make a case on me completely ignoring my actual push on you. What the hell Ranmaru?

I didn't feel the need to ask directly since you responded to everyone else pushing you except me, but since you've ignored it, respond to what I actually said about you.

Last thing.

"If he has actually read the thread and the reasoning for my some of town has found me townie, he may come to understand."

If you're really going to try this **** again, I will ignore you until one of us is dead. You have tried this on multiple people in an array of games. It's obnoxious and it doesn't work. People read you differently. "Ranmaru is meta town" is not a convincing case that makes people not scum read you. I'm not going to listen to other people call you meta town and be like "Yeah they're right" when you post **** like "I suspect NL because I saw one of the heads do this **** as scum before".

i hate this post with a passion. this is the epitome of simply shutting out ran no matter what he may have said, and what he said was ACTUALLY not supid conspiracy theory studd and should have been taken seriously if dealt with at all. "i don't understand what else i should be doing right now when i'm still waiting on you to comment on my push towards you." who dafuq says that that isn't a) completely fixated on a single slot and b) is a person who's job it is to find scum?

No Lynch, Macman, Ashemu, Ranmaru, Red Ryu, Rake are my town reads.

Gheb is also a town lean. I like is push on WATT except for the fact that he slightly overgeneralized what WATT has done in the game so far, and I don't understand why he gets on WATT for having easy reads and not having a scum read when Soup was literally in the exact same boat. Other than that, everything else Gheb has posted more than

I can't read J. At all. It's really bad actually :/. Moira null and I'm probably just going to listen to the town on this one.

FF is null.

I want more from Rockin. He hasn't really done much at all, and his entrance is a load of fluff imo. If his incoming post doesn't have more content in it, I'm going to be suspicious to say the least.

Gord and WATT are actually my scum reads. I don't really feel the need to go into detail about WATT, since literally everything against him has already been stated. WATT is my weaker scum read of the two though since I'm honestly waiting for the slot to actually get into the game since it kind of seems like they just haven't truly started playing yet.

Gord's case on Gheb is really weird to me. Him attacking Gheb for having those two as his only town reads when Gheb has stated repeatedly that he feels that those two players and himself are the only ones actually playing the game looks fishy to me. I don't understand what's so suspicious about it. His thoughts on Ranmaru can be seen clearly through the fact that Gheb thinks Ran was playing like ****. It's pretty obvious he thinks that about everyone that isn't Ashemu & Macman, too. Saying that half of Gheb's WATT case is total bull**** doesn't settle well with me in the slightest, and I don't understand why he would just call it bull**** and just leave it like that. Gord also says that Gheb's analysis outside of the first paragraph is correct but shallow is really idiotic because that's literally all we can get from WATT, which is why he'd be suspicious in the first place. :| In the end, Gord accuses Gheb of trying to force "bad = scum" logic even though Gheb doesn't believe in it, which is a very reaching point to make, especially considering that he thinks EVERYONE is playing poorly except for himself, Ashemu, and Macman.

Outside of his Gheb case, Gord really hasn't done much at all since the RVS stage of the game.

Gord, you should probably go into your other reads instead of just calling them gay (although I did find that really hilarious lool).

Vote: Gord

gord and watt are his scum reads now. does anyone notice a theme?

yea joey is scummy

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

@mod request votecount

i decided while reading back to expound on my joey read that rockin is characteristically slow and i've decided that i'd rather give him the benefit of the doubt in being rusty. i do like what i feel about em though and if he continues the trend of needing to be bodied i will gladly do it.

from would lynch to would not:

gbiz
joey
rockin
ff/rake/ruy
watt/ran
nl/moira
ash
mac

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

note to thread since apparently they're not in votecounts: deadline is 5/21 at 11:59

@mod request more frequent reminders of deadline, whether it be on votecounts or in thread title or something

 

[Ashemu]

why is WATT low
why are rake/ryu equal

 

[No Lynch]

this is joey's first post in the game that didn't involve haha rvs and looking back it bugs me. why was this a warranted statement? his next post clarifies that it's in response to a question of ash's push on em but... "guys what the hell this is what ruy does in every game?" it just feels like THE right thing to say, especially when it's very well known that this is THE CORRECT thing to say about ruy's abysmal play. just a feel but... it just bugs me, especially when this 180 comes immediately after:

This is typical Joey play. He's white knighted before. And I'm pretty sure he's white knighted Ruy in the exact same manner. White Knighting isn't scummy in itself anyway if the player believes town is misguided. You n Mac have been saying how we are letting people get away with a bunch of stuff because it's a part of their meta, but most of the points you've been making have simply been basic tells that are simply a part of someone's meta. Fake, easy, surface tells.

@the bolded I feel like you're intentionally twisting this. There is no 180 there. Ruy asked if Joey felt that Ashemu's thought process was justified. In other words if he understood where he was coming from. He can very well understand someone else's perspective without agreeing with it.

at this point joey's sole mention of discontent with ran came in response to his case on nl, the one from mad early on that was too ridiculous to comprehend. it's a very easy stance to take and am surprised at this point that townjoey has no more to say about anything else. this was his post showing his dislike for the slot:

this happened on PAGE 8, and the vast majority of his disliking of the slot came from like the pre pg 7 era when he was active in the thread. why didn't he say anything about ran then hmm? CONVENIENTLY ENOUGH, guess what happened on pg 7? a ran pile on, that's what happened. also CONVENIENTLY ENOUGH is that this just happens to be the next post from him. why was none of this mentioned before? did joey just... have a revelation? did the lightbulb just switch on after the whole maybe iunno finding ash sorta scummy thing just dropped? the map of these events doesn't feel right. and what does he do? just plops his *** on the armchair and says that ran is the only direction he feels good about taking. all other avenues? naaaaah we have ran.

It's pretty clear that he's voicing his opinion of the Ranmaru wagon that had nonliterally just started. Haha wut man it's pretty obvious that you're intentionally twisting this to put Joey in a scummy light man. He stated his opinion of the wagon and proceeded by giving his reasoning behind his opinion. Would you have preferred "I agree with the wagon" and have him leave it at that?

i hate this post with a passion. this is the epitome of simply shutting out ran no matter what he may have said, and what he said was ACTUALLY not supid conspiracy theory studd and should have been taken seriously if dealt with at all. "i don't understand what else i should be doing right now when i'm still waiting on you to comment on my push towards you." who dafuq says that that isn't a) completely fixated on a single slot and b) is a person who's job it is to find scum?

This is taken out of context as well. And by this point, I'm pretty convinced you're scum reaching for reasons for your supposed scum reads. Ran was making it out that Joey wasn't actively pressing Ran when Ran wasn't even here at the time. Joey states his distaste for Ran, Ran is gone from thread, Ran returns stating that Joey isn't actively trying to read or push him. That's pretty much what Joey saying in this post, but without context you are making it to look as if Joey was sitting on his ass and making excuses for it.


This isn't me coming to Joey's rescue btw, this is me pointing out the blatant twisting of context to fit your artificial scum read. In the same way you did with your Gheb case. (See #685). @ #HBC | Mac still hasn't explained to me how any of that case makes sense.

 

[No Lynch]

After this, I think gorf is a pretty solid hit. I'd like to lynch inactive frozen and scummy+dodgey ruy and watt; but gorf is active scum right in front of us. Anyone who does not see this after his recent posts is extremely dense or an honorary scumbag.

 

[Ashemu]

@the bolded

 

[No Lynch]

That guy is going to be getting a lot of notifications from me lmao.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

watt is low cuz i really don't see his play as scummy as his play is being made out to be. sure he's timid when it's comes to his approach but i see as much backing for the fact that he's taking a cautious approach to the game as a town as i do with the possibility of him being scum who is too scared to make a stance, and at this point of the game i feel like there are simply better options. a paper trail exists.

rake = ruy cuz they're both just players i am absolutely willing to lynch off of principle and have been too wrong on them in the past to bother trying to read them yet. i will surely follow a wagon to their death though if it comes to it.

nl take off your goggles and actually take what i said into consideration please and ty. "typical joey play," so the **** what. in context, it's a very easy hit and it's something to say. there's no stance in it aside from "ruy is being ruy why are people (when in actuality it's "person") on him for being himself?" and yes it's a 180 cuz he then goes on to completely retract the fact that THE ONE PERSON WHO WAS ON HIM had a justifiable reason to be on him. that is indicative of a 180. if you didn't know a 180 is when somebody feels one way about something and completely turns it on its head. saying people shouldn't be on ruy and then saying he understands why THE ONE PERSON WHO WAS ON HIM was on him is, indeed, a 180.

you are a ****ing ****** for your meta comments btw and am laughing at whichever head you are, i'm sure it's soup because when zen is stupid it's a different flavor of stupid.

"it's pretty clear that he's voicing his opinions on the ran wagon."

Ryu don't fail a class! You got this! (although I failed one as well it's okay I'll be here for you <3)

I'm fine with a Ranmaru push. The whole voting No Lynch for something he's done in a scum game before thing is kind of a load of **** and the vote in general looks very opportunistic. The Ashemu vote is very poorly explained and it looks like he just threw an accusation to throw an accusation, which looks really bad considering Ashemu was SO easy to jump on after she jumped on the NL wagon because of her opinion of the wagon prior to her vote. Along with that, his 229 is really disgusting. Specifically the line "Opportunistic in the sense that you hard defend No Lynch as a scumbuddy, but decide to pile on when there is a major support for his death or at least a major discomfort with his slot." Why would Ashemu wait to jump on after one more person votes the slot? The amount of pressure on the slot didn't realistically change much at all. An array of people were voting No Lynch already, and adding one more person didn't really add much to the pressure aspect. I don't understand how you can accuse Ashemu of going from hard defense to busing when she already showed slight distaste in the slot prior to jumping on the wagon and she had her own reasoning for joining the wagon either way (which isn't weak if you don't think about meta by the way).

Definitely don't wanna throw him at L-2 already though. I'll keep my vote off only because of that.

here's the post.

I'm fine with a Ranmaru push.

here's what he said about his opinion on the ran wagon.

The whole voting No Lynch for something he's done in a scum game before thing is kind of a load of **** and the vote in general looks very opportunistic. The Ashemu vote is very poorly explained and it looks like he just threw an accusation to throw an accusation, which looks really bad considering Ashemu was SO easy to jump on after she jumped on the NL wagon because of her opinion of the wagon prior to her vote. Along with that, his 229 is really disgusting. Specifically the line "Opportunistic in the sense that you hard defend No Lynch as a scumbuddy, but decide to pile on when there is a major support for his death or at least a major discomfort with his slot." Why would Ashemu wait to jump on after one more person votes the slot? The amount of pressure on the slot didn't realistically change much at all. An array of people were voting No Lynch already, and adding one more person didn't really add much to the pressure aspect. I don't understand how you can accuse Ashemu of going from hard defense to busing when she already showed slight distaste in the slot prior to jumping on the wagon and she had her own reasoning for joining the wagon either way (which isn't weak if you don't think about meta by the way).

here are his opinions of ranmaru HIMSELF.

#229 was the LATEST of his suspicion of ran at this point. why is it that a slot who "doesn't have a scum read yet aside from a possible feel of ash" (yes this was his most updated stance so far) DOESN'T mention anything said here before a wagon on ran happens? ESPECIALLY when one of the things was a VERY prominent and VERY contrasting opinion from what was generally thought? yall were saying ran was obvtown from that nl case of his. why did joey just not feel the need to say anything about this? it doesn't make sense that it took THIS long for this to be stated by him.

so how do people with functioning brains feel about joey?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

oh and you're ****ing terrible at the condescending talking down thing. you're a ****ing ant waiting to stepped on you little *****, learn your place and shut your mouth when you're talking to your elder.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Zen do you buy the bull**** that your slot is selling? I'll admit, I'll be surprised if you're the ****** of the bunch.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

oh and you're ****ing terrible at the condescending talking down thing. you're a ****ing ant waiting to stepped on you little *****, learn your place and shut your mouth when you're talking to your elder.

I don't even know the context of this but in dying laughing so hard

Gawd i can't even deal

 

[Moira]

*yawn*

Joey pressure looks so boring.

 

[Moira]

After this, I think gorf is a pretty solid hit. I'd like to lynch inactive frozen and scummy+dodgey ruy and watt; but gorf is active scum right in front of us. Anyone who does not see this after his recent posts is extremely dense or an honorary scumbag.

When talking about the bolded, get the **** outta here with that suggestion. We gain 100% nothing from a FF lynch and would just be PL'ing an inactive slot. Replace him out and get an actual player in the slot and actually posting to people then maybe we can talk about that slot.

@ #HBC | Mac : How confident are you in GhebScum? Like you can give me a 1-10 number and that'd be fine. I just want to see how sold you are on it. @ #HBC | Gorf can answer the same question.

 

[Moira]

Can Rake stop coming in here to do absolutely nothing, but make pointless conversational posts and actually get some skin in the game? I also cannot like read any of Ruy's posts because they are just not being typed clearly and that's not particularly his fault, but would be helpful if I understood what he means. I think he mentioned something to Ashy but meant it to us but I have no idea what he is referencing.

Tomorrow you guys will have Sang>Me more than likely because she has time and I don't so yeah, yay for that.

 

[Moira]

@ No Lynch : Can you refrain from responding to a case that wasn't against your slot and let the slot themselves defend from it? Even if you found the case to be flawed, Joey should have been the first to respond to it since it is coming as an attack from Gorf and would have helped others read the two slots themselves. I know this is coming from the Soup-side so yeah. Don't do that.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Prolly like 7 but honestly it's been decreasing and im worrying that im reliving phoenix wright mafia

 

[Moira]

I loved reading that game. (gee I wonder why)

Has your feelings decreased enough to finally join me for toDay's sake?

 

[Moira]

(P.S. He isn't at L-1, he was only at L-2 with your vote. He's at L-3 atm.)

 

[Ashemu]

my opinion on joey is that hes town and has been town for ages. "this person's rage is FAKE" arguments are questionable at best but gorf's post is a lot more needlessly abrasive than the soup posts ran was ragging on

 

[~ Gheb ~]

WATT dead yet?

 

[Wots All This Then?]

Alright so rereading with a blank state here to orient myself a bit.

Ryu, whatever you're doing, please stop doing it right now. I don't want to have to lynch you and have you flip town because you think it's a good idea to make a bunch of vacuous statements and post a bunch of mundane questions that go nowhere.

dislike nl here. Leaving in that ryu town line makes me think that soup is leaving his options open here with this read. On the one hand he's stating that what ryu does makes him want to lynch the slot. But at the same time he acknowledges that it might just be ryu town (in which case he is still tempted to lynch him). Moght be the beginning of a bus. Not sure yet.

Guys what the hell? This is what Ryu does in every game. What is different here than any other town Ryu game?

Do you still feel this way about ryu?

 

[Wots All This Then?]

Btw this is the point where I'm starting to think "ruy sure seems scummy for non ruy related reasons," only now I'm not sure if my "non ruy related reasons" are actually just ruy related reasons...

Can you go into this or at least show me where you already did?

 

[Dooms]

this is joey's first post in the game that didn't involve haha rvs and looking back it bugs me. why was this a warranted statement? his next post clarifies that it's in response to a question of ash's push on em but... "guys what the hell this is what ruy does in every game?" it just feels like THE right thing to say, especially when it's very well known that this is THE CORRECT thing to say about ruy's abysmal play. just a feel but... it just bugs me, especially when this 180 comes immediately after:

"guys (well really just ash cuz nobody else is grillin ruy yet) lay off of ruy! he does this every game! but of course i CAN see why one may think your questions are pointless, so i'm just gonna throw what i said in the trash."

also the exchange between joey and ruy is kinda awkward but nothing i can objectively call scummy, just... idk out of place. especially how drawn out it was. but ahh well.

First of all, No Lynch was also a part of the group hounding on Ryu (and the person I was more disappointed with), as he said clearly he'd be willing to lynch Ryu if he kept on playing like this.

If I were to look at Ryu's questions without realizing the fact that Ryu gets information from them, then I would say they were pointless, which is why I didn't find Ashemu scummy for it. Since I've hydra'd with Ryu enough to know his RVS phase, he gets information from those types of questions that he asks.

Why are you bringing up the fact that the discussion between Ryu and myself is weird if you're just going to say that it's not scummy but awkward? All I can say about this is look at what Ryu said regarding this. No Lynch is right and the fact that you're hounding on him for using meta in the part of your case that you yourself say isn't scummy but looks weird is quite weird. You expect people to look at this and be like "Yeah, he's scummy", but you yourself say it's not scummy but weird, and you call it formulated, too.

at this point joey's sole mention of discontent with ran came in response to his case on nl, the one from mad early on that was too ridiculous to comprehend. it's a very easy stance to take and am surprised at this point that townjoey has no more to say about anything else. this was his post showing his dislike for the slot:

this happened on PAGE 8, and the vast majority of his disliking of the slot came from like the pre pg 7 era when he was active in the thread. why didn't he say anything about ran then hmm? CONVENIENTLY ENOUGH, guess what happened on pg 7? a ran pile on, that's what happened. also CONVENIENTLY ENOUGH is that this just happens to be the next post from him. why was none of this mentioned before? did joey just... have a revelation? did the lightbulb just switch on after the whole maybe iunno finding ash sorta scummy thing just dropped? the map of these events doesn't feel right. and what does he do? just plops his *** on the armchair and says that ran is the only direction he feels good about taking. all other avenues? naaaaah we have ran.

Notice how I don't have any posts between my Ran suspicion and his suspicious posts.

Tell me why this is?

Probably because I found Ranmaru suspicious after his suspicious post and then posted about it!

I don't get what you're getting at with the whole convenient stuff. It's not like I made a chain of posts between the post I hounded Ranmaru for and my thoughts on the wagon. I literally made a post right before his crap post, and then my next post after his crap post was my thoughts on him and his wagon.

How am I on an armchair? I stated that my vote was on Ranmaru but I didn't use the vote command because of L-2, but at this point I wasn't scum reading anyone else. I don't get what you're getting at.

@******** people: why is this guy not getting crap for coasting his way when this particular post happens on ****ing page 11? sure i make some lazy ill driven comments but since i'm more direct about my mud slinging I'M THE BAD GUY. yah.

i hate this post with a passion. this is the epitome of simply shutting out ran no matter what he may have said, and what he said was ACTUALLY not supid conspiracy theory studd and should have been taken seriously if dealt with at all. "i don't understand what else i should be doing right now when i'm still waiting on you to comment on my push towards you." who dafuq says that that isn't a) completely fixated on a single slot and b) is a person who's job it is to find scum?

I actually can't say much for this. I'll take 100% blame for not pushing Ranmaru more and not repeatedly badgering him to respond to my thoughts on him. I'll keep that in mind for next time. I didn't expect Ranmaru to ignore me and only me, so I didn't hound him for ignoring me until I felt that it was 100% confirmed he was ignoring me, but I've already stated that so -shrug-.

I also could have pushed other avenues, but at the time I didn't find anyone else scummy. Watt and Rockin were both nulls, and I didn't even pay attention to you until I read your Gheb case (which I initially didn't bother with because it was in the middle of my wall war with Ranmaru iIrc). I will admit that I found both you and WATT to be scummy on re-read, and that I had you both as null prior to my re-read. Do with it as you will.

gord and watt are his scum reads now. does anyone notice a theme?

yea joey is scummy

You know that I can say the same thing about you for jumping on my case after there was just a debate with lots of thoughts stated on me that you literally just regurgitated?

Yeah, thought so. I don't get why agreeing with wagons is scummy, especially if the players themselves are scummy. I've stated why I find both of those players scummy. Take it or leave it.

here's the post.

here's what he said about his opinion on the ran wagon.

here are his opinions of ranmaru HIMSELF.

#229 was the LATEST of his suspicion of ran at this point. why is it that a slot who "doesn't have a scum read yet aside from a possible feel of ash" (yes this was his most updated stance so far) DOESN'T mention anything said here before a wagon on ran happens? ESPECIALLY when one of the things was a VERY prominent and VERY contrasting opinion from what was generally thought? yall were saying ran was obvtown from that nl case of his. why did joey just not feel the need to say anything about this? it doesn't make sense that it took THIS long for this to be stated by him.

Do you not understand the fact that the major post I had an issue with Ranmaru about was his 211? I have no posts between my 210 and my essential vote on him. I don't get how I'm not mentioning anything when I don't have much to mention regarding Ranmaru at all before his 211? You're either missing this point completely or you're trying to push something that is false information, which is scummy.

Also, understand that Ashemu was not a scum lean. I had one suspicious post regarding the slot, and I stated in 210 and my post prior that they cleared it up before it could even become an issue.

To end this off, since I'm

@Mod: V/LA today and most of tomorrow

I'm just going to state clearly that I feel that you're trying to use the fact that I was late to the punch on Ranmaru against me, which is scummy. It's clear that everything in my post against Ranmaru is from his 211, and I have no posts between my 210 and my thoughts on Ranmaru. Yet when you push me, you focus on the fact that I could have pushed Ranmaru sooner. It's really clear to me that you either don't understand the fact that my distaste for Ranmaru came from 211 and after that, you think I was just lurking intensely between 211 and 281 (which is a really big stretch and I doubt you're thinking this, since there was only a 12 hour time frame between the two posts and it was 11 PM to 11 AM the next day, but since you could technically think this, I'm stating it anyways), or you're scum.

Which one is it, Gord?

Also, like I said, hounding on Soup for using meta to defend the thing you said yourself wasn't scummy makes it look like you called something not scummy but then expect people to look at it and conclude that I'm scummy, which looks scummy itself imo.

Also lol @ Ryu and Soup saying literally the exact same thing regarding that. This is iterally Ranmaru push 2.0 lool.

 

[Dooms]

Alright so rereading with a blank state here to orient myself a bit. dislike nl here. Leaving in that ryu town line makes me think that soup is leaving his options open here with this read. On the one hand he's stating that what ryu does makes him want to lynch the slot. But at the same time he acknowledges that it might just be ryu town (in which case he is still tempted to lynch him). Moght be the beginning of a bus. Not sure yet.

Do you still feel this way about ryu?

Yes.

Please respond to more recent stuff. Don't waste time trying to make content through RVS. Soup has already stated why he said this repeatedly, and it's really clear that the thoughts you state on that once you consider his response don't hold any merit.

If the rest of his posts are going to be like this, I'm actually fine with lynching WATT right now.

 

[Wots All This Then?]

Im going through the full game and cementing myself. I can skip forward if theres more recent thing you specifically want my opinion on but this slot really just needs to punch through the whole game.

 

[Dooms]

Gord didn't call my ryu debate formulated. I somehow read drawn out as something completely different (I can't even recall what).

On the other hand, how is it drawn out? It was literally me telling Ashemu and No Lynch that this is stereotypical Ryu, Ryu asked me for my thoughts on Ashemu's vote specifically, then me stating my thoughts and us coming to the same conclusion. Not sure how this is drawn out or how it would be suspicious even if it was.

Im going through the full game and cementing myself. I can skip forward if theres more recent thing you specifically want my opinion on but this slot really just needs to punch through the whole game.

Understandable. Ignore me, then.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

i slept on it and honestly i'm more okay with the watt wagon then i had let on, the points against his slot ARE cool but quite frankly i just don't find myself having as much gusto as others in disliking the slot. he's lame at worst to me n i mean he's got a lot attached to him considering he's probably been one of the hottest topics toDay. consider him like after ff/rake/ruy on mah list

 

[Dooms]

oh and you're ****ing terrible at the condescending talking down thing. you're a ****ing ant waiting to stepped on you little *****, learn your place and shut your mouth when you're talking to your elder.

What the **** did you just ****ing say about me, you little *****? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the **** out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my ****ing words. You think you can get away with saying that **** to me over the Internet? Think again, ******. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re ****ing dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little ****. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your ****ing tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will **** fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re ****ing dead, kiddo.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

High-level debating skills being displayed right there!

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

VOTECOUNT:
Moira [0] -
Wots All This Then? [6] - Gheb_01, Moira, Ashemu, -Masquerain-, Gorf
Gheb_01 [2] - , Macman, Rake.,
-Masquerain- [0] -
Ashemu [0] -
Red Ryu [2] - , Wots All This Then?, No Lynch
Gorf [0] -
No Lynch [2] - frozenflame751, Ran
Macman [0] -
Rake. [0] -
Rockin [0] -
Ranmaru [0] -
frozenflame751 [0] -

Not voting: Rockin, Red Ryu

 

[No Lynch]

@ No Lynch : Can you refrain from responding to a case that wasn't against your slot and let the slot themselves defend from it? Even if you found the case to be flawed, Joey should have been the first to respond to it since it is coming as an attack from Gorf and would have helped others read the two slots themselves. I know this is coming from the Soup-side so yeah. Don't do that.

The last thing I posted was the response to Ranmaru, I've been too busy to even post at the time.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Really don't wanna end the day with frozen not having posted and seems like watt is L-1

Will respond to ppl later, need to catch up with recent posts

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

oh and you're ****ing terrible at the condescending talking down thing. you're a ****ing ant waiting to stepped on you little *****, learn your place and shut your mouth when you're talking to your elder.

Vote: Gorf