Mikkelmann
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Let me know what you think on Twitter @AsuraHedo.
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Zero's Smash 4 Jigglypuff Guide
- Thread starter Mikkelmann
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Let me know what you think on Twitter @AsuraHedo.
Sgt-Sol
Smash Journeyman
Rather have H-Box do the jiggly puff guide
ShuckleBoard
Smash Apprentice
Loving the increased quality from ZeRo! I likes how he went over her weakness more in depth. It shows that he is commited to helping the community grow. Also watch the Seryender Jiggly matches that went up on VGbootcamp's channel today to see how her tools are used in tournement. Good article Michael.
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Creativion
Smash Apprentice
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third sweeeeeet bruh 10 characters
"Zeros"?
MintChipper
Smash Journeyman
Would you rather have a person that's been playing Smash 4 12 hours a day since it came out in Japan or someone that's mainly a Melee player and only treats Smash 4 as a side hobby?
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TheFadedWarrior
Smash Journeyman
Agreed, but he doesn't play Smash 4 actively. He's entered 3 tournaments (2 if you don't include the invitational). But I really don't think ZeRo should've done the tutorial
Vinylic.
Woke?
Ask Hbox to start taking smash 4 more seriously.
Or ask Reflex, Me, Serynder, and the jigglypuff boards for assistance. We are the guys who gave ZeRo some more info about jiggs for his guide after all. Hbox is super good in melee, but when I say he makes no progress in smash 4, I tend to say that in a serious tone.
I'm also the founder of Jab to Rest. So uh....yeah.
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SuperAtrain
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It is nice to see people, especiaally very good players, give advice. People generally increase in skill when shown these skills(in context to a specific character). It's just heartwarming to see this community grow and grow.
Sgt-Sol
Smash Journeyman
It's just an opinion don't take it seriously kid
BuTTNutz
Smash Apprentice
He isn't one of, HE IS THE BEST SM4SH PLAYER AT THIS TIME!!!
(btw kinda late on this guide right?)
(btw kinda late on this guide right?)
J.P
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MarioMeteor
Smash Hero
You found a simple, two-hit combo that literally anybody could've done? Wow! You truly are a God among men! Please, give me a break.
Jigglypuff really deserves more love than it gets. It's probably got the most personality than anything else in the Smash universe. And it's so goddamn cute. I don't like Zero, but I hope he gets Puff the recognition it deserves.
The Slayer
RAWR!
Smashboards in a nutshell. Better have a favorable opinion or get called out hard.It's just an opinion don't take it seriously kidu so mean
Vinylic.
Woke?
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MarioMeteor
Well yeah, that I am for finding a two-hit combo that not much players thought about using. Now it is, and you're welcome for it. She deserves more recognition, which I agree. You certainly won't be seeing zero use jigglypuff in tournaments though, so don't have high hopes.
Serynder is playing in S@X tonight, so you should watch if you so desire her to be loved by many just as much as the jiggly boards does.
MarioMeteor
Well yeah, that I am for finding a two-hit combo that not much players thought about using. Now it is, and you're welcome for it. She deserves more recognition, which I agree. You certainly won't be seeing zero use jigglypuff in tournaments though, so don't have high hopes.
Serynder is playing in S@X tonight, so you should watch if you so desire her to be loved by many just as much as the jiggly boards does.
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*Cough* You want a Melee player to do a guide on Smash 4 Jigglypuff?
MarioMeteor
Smash Hero
Oh yeah, it is Tuesday isn't it? Well, hopefully he doesn't lose his first match.@
Well yeah, that I am for finding a two-hit combo that not much players thought about using. Now it is, and you're welcome for it. She deserves more recognition, which I agree. You certainly won be seeing zero use jigglypuff in tournaments though, so don't have high hopes.
Serynder is playing in S@X tonight, so you should watch if you so desire her to be loved by many just as much as the jiggly boards does.
Purin a.k.a. José
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ZeRo is like the Ken of Smash 4 right now. Also that is a welcome Jiggly guide! Now I will stop using Rollout to recover from high distances. I honestly thought it killed earlier 
I was going to say this same exact thing lol that actually made my night.
MarioMeteor
Smash Hero
Some people, huh? They'll find a dime and think they're a millionaire.
To me it's almost like someone saying, "I was the first one to roll left to right."
MarioMeteor
Smash Hero
"I was the first to push two buttons in this particularly obvious order, respect me!"
Vinylic.
Woke?
Some people just seem to think I'm that proud, huh? You guys are silly, lol.
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Glad you have a sense of humor man haha
bdeink
Smash Rookie
You make it sound like there was only one possible Jiggs guide, and Zero did it, thus preventing any more guides from other players in the future.
If Zero didn't release his Jiggs guide when he did, I doubt that we would have gotten one at all that day. More players will, most likely, make their own guides later.
Why not treat this as an added bonus while waiting for a Jigglypuff player to make their guide?
Dylan_Tnga
Smash Master
But who's bear would win? lol m2k.H-Box' puff guide in a nutshell:
JK H-Box I love you <3
Zero sucks. I hate him.
No. Ken won more than ONE national tournament. Ken created awesome and hype combos and styled hard. Ken is a great player. Do not compare him to zero
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Geez, so much hate for ZeRo...
You don't HAVE to watch his videos. Give him a break. He's a member of our community and deserves respect not only for the time & devotion he gives us, but also for being a great sport and having a nice attitude.
I like 'im.
You don't HAVE to watch his videos. Give him a break. He's a member of our community and deserves respect not only for the time & devotion he gives us, but also for being a great sport and having a nice attitude.
I like 'im.
Dylan_Tnga
Smash Master
He does have a great attitude, very friendly.
I dunno. I don't hate him as a person, I hate him for what he represents which is competitive smash 4.
I hate how people hail him as some kind of smash god for winning a smash 4 tournament, comparing him to ken?? I mean come on.
I guess I'll rephrase, I hate Zero's fanbase. I hate the fact that he's the big fish in a small pond, and I can't stand people comparing him to top level melee players who he has ZERO chance of beating, either in melee or in smash 4 (If any top level talented smashers were into smash 4 that is)
Look, it's plain and simple. Melee is the NFL and Smash 4 is college football. If Zero could place top 8 in a national, in melee, then I would rethink my opinion of his skill level being over hyped. However, that's never going to happen.
That being said, I'm sure he would wipe the floor with me in melee. I'm not saying he sucks, I'm saying that he's not even close to Mango/PPMD/HBox etc level.
I don't think anyone can beat ZeRo in Smash 4 right now. (even if high level players from Melee played Sm4sh)
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Vinylic.
Woke?
ZeRo can be beaten, y'all just always think that you can't.
You can. You just gotta put more work into it.
You can. You just gotta put more work into it.
Dylan_Tnga
Smash Master
This is what I'm talking about. You're wrong. If a player of higher calibur than zero (Hax,Axe,Weston,Mango,PPMD,PewPewU, etc) put in the time to learn smash 4 they would destroy him because they would read him better than he would read them.
The only reason this does not happen is because smash 4 is not meant to be a competitive game, and the top players are smart enough to realize this. The game is riding on melee's hype, and the shiny new game effect.
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Ok, that's your opinion. I'm just saying right now no-one's skill level is very close to ZeRo. You might be right about
Also: ZeRo is focusing more on Smash 4 than Melee I'm pretty sure.
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Dylan_Tnga
Smash Master
Thanks for being so reasonable about this. You are right, he is the best smash 4 player right now.
Zero never did well in melee, and played quite possibly the most boring fox style of all time.
That's another thing I don't like about Zero. He has no style. He plays a boring, optimal game. Play 2 win, I get it, but where's the hype? In melee our top player swags out all the time, all the top players swag out.
The majority of his fanbase are armchair smashes that don't go to events. Youtube smashers. Meh.
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Codaption
Smash Ace
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LiteralGrill
Hey, uh.....not to rag on you or anything, but just so you're aware those rest kill percents aren't actually reliable. The video those were pulled from used Kalos Pokemon League as the testing grounds (as opposed to the center of Battlefield, the standard for kill move testing.) While you could argue that Battlefield isn't that optimal for testing vertical killers and thus Kalos could be more reasonable (something that I might still disagree with as Battlefield still has a relatively average ceiling as fitting a neutral stage, not to mention the existence of platforms to balance it out somewhat), the video failed to factor in DI as well. Based on this, the film was most likely made in Training Mode using immobile CPUs, which means no rage or freshness bonus either.
We actually talked ZeRo about this too, after he made the video of course. Unfortunately it's not very well known outside of the puff boards that this isn't accurate, most likely because nobody really thought to question whether it was right or not.
A few of us in the Puff boards are actually working on a project to develop a formula that would let us determine when any character dies on whatever stage based on their percent and rage. Not too far along as of right now (we're still trying to figure out how rage scales and whatnot), but once it comes together hopefully we'll be able to paint a better picture of when to use Rest and when to save it.
LiteralGrill
Hey, uh.....not to rag on you or anything, but just so you're aware those rest kill percents aren't actually reliable. The video those were pulled from used Kalos Pokemon League as the testing grounds (as opposed to the center of Battlefield, the standard for kill move testing.) While you could argue that Battlefield isn't that optimal for testing vertical killers and thus Kalos could be more reasonable (something that I might still disagree with as Battlefield still has a relatively average ceiling as fitting a neutral stage, not to mention the existence of platforms to balance it out somewhat), the video failed to factor in DI as well. Based on this, the film was most likely made in Training Mode using immobile CPUs, which means no rage or freshness bonus either.We actually talked ZeRo about this too, after he made the video of course. Unfortunately it's not very well known outside of the puff boards that this isn't accurate, most likely because nobody really thought to question whether it was right or not.
A few of us in the Puff boards are actually working on a project to develop a formula that would let us determine when any character dies on whatever stage based on their percent and rage. Not too far along as of right now (we're still trying to figure out how rage scales and whatnot), but once it comes together hopefully we'll be able to paint a better picture of when to use Rest and when to save it.
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LiteralGrill
Smokin' Hot~
Well I'd help, but I didn't write the article, sorry!@
koken
Smash Journeyman
Go Zero >8D.
Dylan_Tnga
Smash Master
LOL.
Exactly. Zero's fanbase are youtube scrubs. Same group of idiots that think Alpharad is good at smash because he makes montages of him beating up on 6 year olds on for glory.
For glory is the cancer of competitive smash 4. Smash 4 is not getting a chance to grow because of it. 99% of the **** I see on reddit is "How do I counter projectiles" *facepalm* Try not sucking at the game.