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Fernosaur

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So all our girls are out of the tourney? Aww that's too bad. Still, it sounds like you did pretty great, guys!! Congrats on reaching Winners Finals, Ginger :)
 

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OMG @ Gay Ginger Gay Ginger sis, you go gorllllll~. Show them that bottom tiers can win tourneys. :^)
 

Lavani

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I have video proof that I can upload if you guys would like
I would definitely appreciate that. Trying what you're saying in training, Dark Pit's able to jump around the same frame that I can, and I end up way below him even with the latest fastfall timing I can manage.
 

Cyro

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I would definitely appreciate that. Trying what you're saying in training, Dark Pit's able to jump around the same frame that I can, and I end up way below him even with the latest fastfall timing I can manage.
Perhaps you're not performing it right, or it doesn't work on Dark Pit. It could also be that this simply doesn't work at low percents, I get mine usually around 50% but I'll say once again I have not experimented. I'll be uploading the video later today.
 

Lavani

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Oh, @ Cyro Cyro I got it once on 70% Captain Falcon; he fell out without fastfalling while I had to fastfall for Dark Pit, so I think it is a character specific thing.

I'm still unsure if it's inescapable, but I don't think anyone would buffer an airdodge expecting it given the circumstances, so it's pretty neat.

EDIT: Managed it again, Falcon got upB out before I could footstool. I don't think this is guaranteed.

Also, wtf is up with these commentators, jesus.
There is a Sonic OC on the stream overlay, that should've been your first clue to lower your expectations.
 
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Ffamran

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Does anyone play Samus on the Zelda Social? No, not ZSS, but Samus-Samus aka :4samus: or :4samus:-:4samus: and not-:4zss:.
 
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Oh, @ Cyro Cyro I got it once on 70% Captain Falcon; he fell out without fastfalling while I had to fastfall for Dark Pit, so I think it is a character specific thing.

I'm still unsure if it's inescapable, but I don't think anyone would buffer an airdodge expecting it given the circumstances, so it's pretty neat.

EDIT: Managed it again, Falcon got upB out before I could footstool. I don't think this is guaranteed.
That's kind of odd, I feel like there's something you aren't doing correctly. I have it slowed down in the video I'm uploading, doesn't look like there's enough time to do anything before the footstool.
 

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I used to but I recently dropped both her and ZSS. Are you looking for matchup advice or...?
I started up the Samus MU thread in the Falco boards: http://smashboards.com/threads/ssb4-falco-matchup-discussion-06-samus-shoot-first.390326/.

Samus, Captain Falcon, and Link will be this week's MU discussions (created threads) since I have the flu and I don't know if I'm going to be all right throughout the week and because of university stuff. I already had hit frame data for Samus and Link, so they just needed to be created and Captain Falcon is more of a numeric reference. Captain Falcon's Blue Falcon number was 111, in F-Zero X, it was 7 and in F-Zero GX, it was 07; 111 in binary is 7 since the first 1 is 4, the second is 2, and the third is 1 which totals up to 7. And Link has an active social thread, so whatever. I kind of wanted Lucario since NotAnAdmin requested Lucario and ZSS, but I don't have his data yet to quickly reference off of.
 
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S.F.L.R_9

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I started up the Samus MU thread in the Falco boards: http://smashboards.com/threads/ssb4-falco-matchup-discussion-06-samus-shoot-first.390326/.

Samus, Captain Falcon, and Link will be this week's MU discussions (created threads) since I have the flu and I don't know if I'm going to be all right throughout the week and because of university stuff. I already had hit frame data for Samus and Link, so they just needed to be created and Captain Falcon is more of a numeric reference. Captain Falcon's Blue Falcon number was 111, in F-Zero X, it was 7 and in F-Zero GX, it was 07; 111 in binary is 7 since the first 1 is 4, the second is 2, and the third is 1 which totals up to 7. And Link has an active social thread, so whatever. I kind of wanted Lucario since NotAnAdmin requested Lucario and ZSS, but I don't have his data yet to quickly reference off of.
Well since I don't play her anymore I'm not sure I can give you a very accurate analysis..I know IsmaR comes here sometimes and mains Samus so maybe ask him?
I kind of want to pick up Samus again after talking about her now lol, she just sucks against rushdown (accidental MU discussion oops) and that's all I ever play against :@
 
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Lavani

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That's kind of odd, I feel like there's something you aren't doing correctly. I have it slowed down in the video I'm uploading, doesn't look like there's enough time to do anything before the footstool.
Well while we're waiting on that, here's a gif of what I'm doing:



As you can see I'm getting the footstool out, but he has time to upB first so it doesn't spike him.
 
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Can someone make one of these with :4dk: in a Rosa wig ? :awesome:
 
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Ffamran

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I feel stupid, but does "Enables transition to next jab state on real frame 8" mean that Falco's Jab 1 which has frames 2-4 as its hit and active frames means that Jab 2 comes out at frame 8 which has frames 3-5 as its hit and active frames meaning that Jab 1 to 2 would be frames 2-4 to frames 8-10?
 

Lavani

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I feel stupid, but does "Enables transition to next jab state on real frame 8" mean that Falco's Jab 1 which has frames 2-4 as its hit and active frames means that Jab 2 comes out at frame 8 which has frames 3-5 as its hit and active frames meaning that Jab 1 to 2 would be frames 2-4 to frames 8-10?
Correct.

It isn't to be confused with the jab's FAF, the jab transition happens before the normal end lag ends.
 
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I feel stupid, but does "Enables transition to next jab state on real frame 8" mean that Falco's Jab 1 which has frames 2-4 as its hit and active frames means that Jab 2 comes out at frame 8 which has frames 3-5 as its hit and active frames meaning that Jab 1 to 2 would be frames 2-4 to frames 8-10?
 

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Correct.

It isn't to be confused with the jab's FAF, the jab transition happens before the normal end lag ends.
****. I dun goofed... Oh, and what does FAF mean? I bet Smashboards has a list of terminology somewhere...
 

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So I'm finally teaching myself how to color correct.

Of course, I have no sense of what color should go with what so what hair color do yew gorls think I should give white dress Zelda?
 

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So I'm finally teaching myself how to color correct.

Of course, I have no sense of what color should go with what so what hair color do yew gorls think I should give white dress Zelda?
Why don't you do fake Hilda with purple hair or Zelderly with orange hair so we can have Hilda and Midna?

Or if you want to go with the white dress, maybe gold to go with the accents on her dress
 

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So I'm finally teaching myself how to color correct.

Of course, I have no sense of what color should go with what so what hair color do yew gorls think I should give white dress Zelda?
Brown sounds like the best idea imo, but others may think a blonde would be better. So I suppose it's really up to whoever is using its' preference.

Speaking of Rosa, no ones... Gone there yet, right?
 

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One of the best customs for Palutena is Super Speed, here is a video of Kinuski demonstrating its power. :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT4X9mirHTE
This is probably the most entertained I've been watching a :4palutena: o.O
As for other useful Customs from what I can tell are :

:4bowser:'s Dash Slam works like a better Flame Choke ( Punish Rolls etc. )
:4dk: gets a Hyper Armored Side B
:4charizard: has actual Verical Recovery for once ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Haven't unlocked the rest :u
 

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Hello

Managed to get Top 8 (IIRC) at the tourney

Never should've went Spamus but whatever

@- Near - made Top 16 (IIRC)

Ganon vs Peach is love

Ganon vs Peach is life


Captain Falcon/Mr. Game & Watch should die in a fire though


If there is any doubles tourneys in Ireland, Double Zelda is confirmed

Bracket/results will be posted when I get them


Monster ain't half bad
 
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Cyro

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Well while we're waiting on that, here's a gif of what I'm doing:



As you can see I'm getting the footstool out, but he has time to upB first so it doesn't spike him.
I see, you actually need to be bit higher than where you initiated it from.
The video is currently rendering, I'll have it uploaded as soon as it's finished.
 

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Well gorls, I'm out. Lost in the loser's semi-finals. Olimar is still a terrible match-up for us lol
Always said it :/, that bish is a little demon.

You did pretty great, though!! I only watched you against Rosa and I felt like I jinxed you because of all the SDs :'D. The crashing was also terrible, though...
 
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