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Ffamran

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Welp, I have 53 orbs. Still not gonna summon until 60, so even if it's a trainwreck which it will be, I can still say I have 2 more summons that will hopefully be better when Ike is released.

Probably gonna end up crying in a corner when I summon 5 more axe units. And the sad part is they will all be good axe units.


Also, Inherit Skill is interesting and all, but I would still like to do something with these unspent SP. Sharena has almost 600 SP. Oh, and if anyone should be able to get Dance, it should be Laslow. Canonical abilities. :p
 

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Is there a joke here that I don't understand or smth
Well, one time I asked the social if anyone would be up for matches, and you quoted my post. I got a surge of happiness realising that I could play with a human being outside FG which was replaced with a frown at your post saying "Sure, I wanna set something on fire rn"
 

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RE: Taunting.
Have any of you gorls played Skullgirls? It as a very unique taunting mechanic, and some characters actually use it for boosting other moves.
And when I say unique, I mean it.
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RE: Taunting.
Have any of you gorls played Skullgirls? It as a very unique taunting mechanic, and some characters actually use it for boosting other moves.
And when I say unique, I mean it.
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I do recall that Squigly's (<3) taunt allows her to use her Raging Demon. And that before, you could select Peacock's Taunt as an assist. Which I often did at times. It was fun, just seeing Peacock come in during a combo just to hear her say "Why're ya so bad at video games?"
 

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Well, one time I asked the social if anyone would be up for matches, and you quoted my post. I got a surge of happiness realising that I could play with a human being outside FG which was replaced with a frown at your post saying "Sure, I wanna set something on fire rn"
I don't remember this but it sounds like something I'd do so I'll believe you. :happysheep:
 

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New video of the CellGames is up gorls! :yeahboi:

This time Perfect Cell fights Light Yagami. Still waiting for him to fight Jotaro or DIO. :V
Can't wait for him to fight Alucard since it's the same voice actor:
Cell: I drink people!
Alucard: Gorl I eat people!
Cell: ...Did we just become best friends?
Alucard: YUP!
This was censored for your reading experience by RosalinA.
 

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Knowing that Ursula will probably be the next grand hero kind of lowers my incentive to summon. She would fit the I need a blue mage and a blue unit. The only thing that would be against her is if she's utter trash.

Right now, I only really want Cherche, Cordelia, Felicia -- too cheap to spend feathers and stamina on special map Felicia --, Jeorge, Odin, Kagerou, Setsuna, and Sully. Basically, characters I like and would fill in areas I'm weak in like blue units and archers other than Virion. Abel, Effie, Est, Niles, M!Robin, Saizo, and Shanna would work too.

Edit: Also learned that Abel and Est are an official couple. Palla is is basically Caeda and Cordelia in this love triangle. Oh, and Est gets captured twice in the appearances she's made.
 
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RE: Taunting.
Have any of you gorls played Skullgirls? It as a very unique taunting mechanic, and some characters actually use it for boosting other moves.
And when I say unique, I mean it.
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skullgirls is da best.

I like soft hair

One kid in my class had really soft hair for no reason in grade 7
I was just laying my head down in my hand in class and this random dude starting feeling my hair. I turned around looking at him like "WTF????" and he tells me my hair feels like turf. People keep randomly touching my hair without warning and ruining my twists.

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Industry standard equipment such as software is expensive. Companies know that people will and have to use them, so they charge everyone an arm and a leg. Some of them are nice to students and give them discounts or even free software like Autodesk Maya and I think MS Office is free at the uni I go to. Some don't like Adobe which give a discount, but it's basically another monthly fee on top of other monthly fees. OR you can buy a stripped down version of Photoshop... At least Photoshop and other Adobe software is installed on every computer and iMac in probably every library, so that's fine. Just have to make my way there. Meanwhile, the wild and rare beast known as sound design.

One lab. About 24 students split between a two-part course. So 12 newbies and 12 continuees. Some people have used other DAWs like one dude knows how to use Adobe Audition which he actually had to use to salvage a project. Others don't.

Well, the internet being a great friend, found out that I don't have to deal with Pro Tools' subscription-based pricing model like Adobe since there's a limited, but probably full feature version of it: Pro Tools First. For the course, I don't think we're doing anything crazy, so a 16 track, 4 input, and 20+ limit should be fine. That said, there are alternatives like Reaper. 60 day trial and $60 for the whole package or $225 if you make more than $20K with Reaper. Kind of like how UE4, Unity, and I think CryEngine handles their pricing where if you don't make a lot of money because you're just using if for personal use, learning, or you're an indie developer, you either get to use it for free or you pay a very low price. Meanwhile, Pro Tools has a limited version for free, an $8.25 monthly fee if you're a student or $24.99 if you're not, and $299 for the entire thing if you're a student or $599 if you're not.

Reaper has to be one the edgiest named piece of software I have ever seen. Welp, I guess it's probably Reaper's choice of software for making his own killer mixtapes. *insert killer mixtape here*


Anyway, taking the course has made me appreciate what sound design does in films, games, etc. It's also really cool like if you distort a sound of a cymbal, you can make a sound for a flashback or something. That said, since the course covers the history of sound design, let's just say that projects involving found sounds or musique concrète as it was coined by Pierre Schaeffer is difficult. Then again, this and the digital media course has had me doing projects on the fly which is stressful and annoying since I never know what the hell I'm doing other than I'm doing a project, it kind of works, and somehow, I get good feedback from people since critiquing is a thing for both classes.

Here's an example of musique concrète by Schaeffer if anyone's interested. It's called Étude aux chemins de fer and it is exactly what it is titled: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9pOq8u6-bA.

Here's another one that is just beyond creepy. Gesang der Jünglinge by Karlheinz Stockhausen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpSO3UHKy_g. The rundown on this is a choir boy singing while electronic sounds are played and no, the boy is not singing linearly. Have fun.

If you want something not weird or creepy, check out Dripsody by Hugh le Caine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvHSvSBwFYM. It's a piece made entirely by a sound of a water drop manipulated in many, many ways.

And now, I ponder on what the hell I'm going to do for the project for sound design that's due on Wednesday while seeing if I can do the entire thing on Reaper and transfer it to or at least copy in Pro Tools.
 
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So for no real reason I ended up watching some Sm4sh tournament vids and I found one from Ed that I don't think was posted here yet.
Was really good and had me laughing almost the entire time. Gud job @#HBC | Scary

Also looked at some of my videos. This one always seems like a great match imo
Still not picking the game back up tho

EDIT: JUST WATCHED ONE OF @ElderLolz 'S VIDEOS AND FOUND THIS COMMENT
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He literally says she's not as good as Marth, BUT HE'S STILL PUTTING MARTH AND LUCINA IN THE SAME SPOT IN HIS TIER LIST!
He just said that Marth gets more mileage because of tippers.

The reason why he groups the two together is because he has trouble finding Lucina her own spot in the tier list. I also feel that Lucina is also a top-tier, but her results, or lack thereof, can make it a tough case to present.
 

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Also, I am extremely salty that ZeRo released a Lucina video right after I posted this one long post:

For the record, I did never say Marth had "better kill options", I simply said he can very well kill early while just doing his normal stuff when Lucina needs to either commit to kill as early, or prolong the game which you do not want to do against most Top Tiers.
I do not appreciate the anecdotal evidence and that "I once read something and got a kill at X%".
I kind of appreciate the average kill %, but I doubt the Lucina sample at Top Level play (among two players that know the matchup) is wide enough to provide a fair comparison.

Again, both can play very similarly and have about the same matchup spread, but in Smash 4 more interactions generally means more chances of something stupid happening, regardless of who they may benefit.




Also, sorry but Zelda is terrible. She won't make it out of bottom 5 because she is not less terrible than other 5 characters, her ground game is sluggish, has no landing options, has very little safety, has no reliable punish game (I miss her Brawl smashes), has awful grab game, has virtually no aerial game.
A lot of kill power and even some setups into it (dthrow>Uair) but too much of a fragile gameplay, basically a glass cannon too geared towards the glass part.
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He just said that Marth gets more mileage because of tippers.

The reason why he groups the two together is because he has trouble finding Lucina her own spot in the tier list. I also feel that Lucina is also a top-tier, but her results, or lack thereof, can make it a tough case to present.
At 1:23 he says, and I quote, "I do think that Marth is better than Lucina." and afterwards he says, "And I wouldn't put Lucina too far behind Marth." If he's putting them in the same spot this time because he just doesn't know where to put Lucina, then that's not a reason. It's a crappy excuse.
 

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Hey gorls, anyone play Tales of Zestiria? I am playing Tales of Berseria and it's hella fun, and they say ToZ is supposed to be set in the future after Velvet's apocalyptic rampage. Though I also hear it's pretty bad. Is it elitists crying it's bad or is it actually bad? It's only 12.99 on Steam so I figured I'd nab it if it were actually good. They also have Tales of Symphonia for only 5 bucks, but I don't think I could comfortably play that because of Berseria's battle system being very varied.

Also, side rage: So. Like. I played Tales of Berseria and saved a lot like I usually do. I boot it up and FOR SOME REASON my save file was from 3 hours of gameplay from before it. Like all my new saves just vanished. Is there anything that could cause that from Steam's side or is my computer just being a piece of shipple? Kinda killed my motivation to play it for a little while... :T
 

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Morning girls. How's everyone doing? :4zelda:

Going to be creating a Moodboard so I can show my Tutor what exactly caught my interest and inspired me to make my design.

Also, is anyone going to be watching FrostBite 2017 today and Sunday?

There's also a video by the Shulk mains on Shadow I-Frames. Which so far DK and Shulk can do. Which gives Shulk intangible frames if he lands onstage with a Vision one frame after either a FH UAir, Air Dodge, etc. It's actually pretty fascinating. I am legit curious if any other characters have Shadow I-Frames.


 
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Hey gorls, anyone play Tales of Zestiria? I am playing Tales of Berseria and it's hella fun, and they say ToZ is supposed to be set in the future after Velvet's apocalyptic rampage. Though I also hear it's pretty bad. Is it elitists crying it's bad or is it actually bad? It's only 12.99 on Steam so I figured I'd nab it if it were actually good. They also have Tales of Symphonia for only 5 bucks, but I don't think I could comfortably play that because of Berseria's battle system being very varied.

Also, side rage: So. Like. I played Tales of Berseria and saved a lot like I usually do. I boot it up and FOR SOME REASON my save file was from 3 hours of gameplay from before it. Like all my new saves just vanished. Is there anything that could cause that from Steam's side or is my computer just being a piece of shipple? Kinda killed my motivation to play it for a little while... :T
Steam and many other I don't really know what they're called... So, stuff like Origin, Steam, Uplay, and more save your save files both physically -- on your PC -- and I think it's cloud -- on their server. You might have seen this when you start a game on Steam and it checks your save files. It can make deleting saves an issue for some games because of this like Saints Row 2. Anyway, maybe there was a hiccup when it was backing up your save?

Worst case scenario is that the PC port of Berseria is that bad which is probably not the case. Tales ports are pretty good or decent from what I remember seeing. Or there was a glitch and it screwed up your save e.g. I guess the fatal bugs in Twilight Princess and before it was patched, Skyward Sword.

Edit: Check the Steam forums or Google it; Google something like "Berseria vanishing saves". A thing you could try is to delete the save files on your computer, but it probably won't work not since Steam might have synced your 3 hour ago file as the current file which shouldn't be the case... I think.

I've never played any of the Tales game, but want to and have read about them, so I can't give you any recommendations. I can give you, a hopefully not spoiler-y thing about Zestiria: the main character is gay. Which main character? Not telling you. Also, I think it was handled well from what I know. It's more about genuine love than anything else. Don't think any of the other Tales games had a gay main character and Berseria is also the first game where the main lead is female. I know Xillia and others had a female lead, but she co-lead or was part of a group like FF XII XIII focuses on Ashe and Lightning, but it's ultimately everyone's story similar to FF X and others.
 
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Currently watching Frostbite 2017.

There was a Duck Hunt main named Ozone, his Duck Hunt looked very nice, however he lost to Rich Brown 2-0. Hopefully he'll make it through Losers.
 

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So for no real reason I ended up watching some Sm4sh tournament vids and I found one from Ed that I don't think was posted here yet.
Was really good and had me laughing almost the entire time. Gud job @#HBC | Scary

Also looked at some of my videos. This one always seems like a great match imo
Still not picking the game back up tho

EDIT: JUST WATCHED ONE OF @ElderLolz 'S VIDEOS AND FOUND THIS COMMENT
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Lol I wonder if they remember me because I sucked or because I was decent
 

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Ahh I'm happy
About to sell my New 3DS, and then I'll have enough for the Switch :D
Only problem now is finding one. Hopefully I can get a walk in on Friday
 

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Either way, I always end up receiving your Replays. :secretkpop:
I gave up cherry picking who I send them to since it took forever. So now I just spam A+Down

Although I'm thinking about cleaning out my friends list except for people here since most of them are random FG people I never talk to
 

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Got to 61 orbs this morning. I was off by 1 yesterday and I could have gotten 60 had I chosen to do another level instead of the Mysterious Man's. So, one last summon unless I get another 20 somehow by the end of the month -- figure I would try to get a focus Ephraim -- or until Ike is released.

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And the scarcity of blue units and archers continue... Two duplicates where they're useless. 3* Bartre is not helpful for even merging since I have all the skills for 4* Bartre from the beginning of this save file. And I don't remember or know what stats either of them are strong or weak. I think 4* Bartre is fairly average all things considered, so whatever. Probably just going to keep him for Inherit Skill which I don't know who would benefit from getting any of his skills. If weapon tree transfers are possible, than I think only Beruka would benefit since she has the defense to go up against knights. Anna is a mage masher, so it wouldn't make sense alongside Hawkeye who is more physically durable, but still; Barst would literally become inferior Bartre if I gave him that, Frederick already is a hammer unit, Gunter while he could be an even stronger knight killer, might not want to lose the raw power from a Silver Axe that lets him kill pretty much everything, and Raven is fast, but apparently has attack bane, so...

4* Gaius? It's one thing to be a duplicate; it's another thing to be straight up worse while being a higher rarity unit. Comparing a what if promoted 3* Gaius I already have to new 4* Gaius, new Gaius is only better in HP and speed by 1 measly point while having equal stats for all but resistance which is 2 points and literally half that of old Gaius. Thanks, game. I totally want a ****tier 4* duplicate... Probably going to merge this Gaius after promoting 3* Gaius.

Speaking of terrible resistance, Saizo. Probably not going to use him other than to level him just cause. Why is bishie Kaze not in this game? Oh, and Silas and Sumia. Where are they at?

That leaves Palla and Shanna. I guess Palla is a sword Cordelia -- gameplay and unrequited love --, so, sure... She's also kind of a green-haired Lucina since they share the same voice actress. My only flying sword unit and a 4* one to boot. So, all right. Would have preferred Henry or Tharja, but whatever.

Shanna, I don't know. She's also the first unit I've seen with the Desperation skill which is apparently the opposite to Subaki's Quick Riposte. Cute as a button, though. Hope her attack gains are better than Subaki.

Welp, at this point, Ursula is probably going to be my only blue mage unless some miracle happens like Odin is part of the next special map rotation.
 
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Shanna worries me.
She had about 4-5 levels where she only had 1 stat gain or 0 stat gain and the other levels that were normal 2-3 stat gains. She's fast, but that's pretty much it. If by 13 to 14 levels and she ends up only as strong or weaker than Subaki, then I'm pretty much screwed. My blue units just suck and are probably RNG stat progression screwed. Their problems are that there's one stat they're relatively good at -- average to terrible compared to the other units -- and the rest are at best average. Jagen's a resistance tank and even now with a Silver Lance, is decently strong, but his average speed and average defense means he can't simply kill a unit and he dies instead, Gwendolyn is a physical tank, but is weak, slow, and weak to magic, 3* Sharena was fast, but really frail and average in attack, and Subaki is fast and average in defense, but his attack is low to the point where even against units where he's weapon advantage against, sometimes he doesn't match the amount of damage he's taking, especially against high damage sword units like Lucina. And then there's the issue of all of them, but Jagen having terrible resistance.

Right now, only Sharena stands out and it's as a glass cannon. That's terrible since it limits her to either being a utility unit because of her rally and fortify defense or a unit you send out hoping they don't die or at least do a ton of damage before dying. The weird thing is that there are 3* units who are good or can keep up with 4* units like Cecilia and Laslow, but holy hell, why are all my blue units in general terrible? I don't want to promote any of them except Sharena since she's a unique unit because I'm worried they'll continue to suck which would be a complete waste of time and resources. Please, Shanna, you're my only hope. Oh, and Ursula whenever you want to show up.

Palla's doing fine as expected of a 4* unit. Saizo's a physical tank, but his resistance sucks. So, kind of like Virion. If he wasn't such an ass about everything, I might be fine with him. Say "What" again. SAY "WHAT" AGAIN! I dare you, I double dare you, you mo-- *is dragged off to be sedated and put in a "happy" place*

Also, 2* F!Robin sucks. Not surprising for a 2* unit all things considered. I should try to get a team of lv 35+ to try and get a 3* F!Robin. Probably not going to happen, especially since the 1.5 EXP event is over.

Welp, gonna go watch Godzilla (1954), the original Japanese version, for the Japanese Pop Culture course I'm taking. Probably not going to be as silly as this.


Rainbow Godzilla, the mascot of R. Mika. :p
 
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Ffamran Ffamran Shanna is pretty good as 4*-5* unless she gets speed/atk bane, basically 2nd Tier PegaGorl with Subaki. Her lines are great too. "Fine! Fine! Everything's fine!"
 

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For any FE Heroes players, has anyone been losing more than usual in the Arena this week? I've been losing a lot and thought I just sucked but I checked my defense results and I've won against 3 other people? Wondering if they upped the AI or something so it was more challenging for everyone. Or at least for everyone not Olivia or Azura since the AI has no idea how to use refresh units at all lel

Also:
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Surprisingly this was one of the battles I won. Both Takumi's were level 40 btw
 

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Ffamran Ffamran Shanna is pretty good as 4*-5* unless she gets speed/atk bane, basically 2nd Tier PegaGorl with Subaki. Her lines are great too. "Fine! Fine! Everything's fine!"
Apparently, my Shanna is completely and utterly... average. According to this calculator: https://feheroes.wiki/Stats_Calculator. And yes, I love her lines too. She's adorable and dorky.

Subaki I thought was attack bane, but the calculator says he's not; he's average. Does have high speed, though, but low defense. He's supposed to be weaker on average than Shanna, but dear lord, he's level 29 with 25 attack and she's level 22 with 24 attack. I think he, Matthew, and couple of other units aren't going to get any mileage without being promoted which sucks since Alfonse, kind of Anna, Beruka, Cecilia, Hinata, Laslow, Virion, and Azama and Wrys are doing fine -- Azama and Wrys could have better healing spells, though, which would require a promotion.

Anyway, if the calculator is correct...
Fir is average with high speed and defense of all things while Lon'qu has low attack, but high resistance of all things... Guess I'm benching this Lon'qu. Sorry, man. For all the praise I give Laslow, dude's average except for low HP, but high defense to make up for that which is hilariously enough, the same situation for Selena. Welp, I guess I know what Odin's stats will be like. :p

OMG. I have a good Hinata. He's high everything, but average HP. WOAH. Still gonna give him crap for just being there. :p

Edit: Nope; forgot about Fury. Hinata is just average.

Palla continues Laslow and Selena's low HP, but high defense thing, Sophia has low attack, but high resistance -- Sophia... You had one job... I... I need Henry, Leo, and Tharja --, and Tiki trades resistance for high defense. Have no idea about Lucina since I don't remember her initial stats, so I'm just gonna have to wait until she's level 40 to check.

Let's me compare first Bartre with second Bartre. First Bartre has high attack and defense and average everything else. Second Bartre has low HP, high defense, and average everything else. Welp, guess that solves it. The duplicate Bartre I summoned today is truly useless. At least Fir gets to have 2 dads for now.

Curious on Mr. "I Regularly Visit The Grave Daily" Frederick. Low HP, but high resistance which is still low all things considered. Welp, that explains why he dies so much -- I did a double take one time while noticing Beruka's much higher HP compared to his. It seems to be a running trend... Gunter also has low HP, but high attack. At least his defense is while average, still good enough to let him survive. Meanwhile, Pebbles, here.

Barst has low attack -- explains a lot now -- and high defense, Beruka has high HP and low resistance -- rub it in, why don't you? --, Cecilia has high resistance, but low defense -- pretty much why she dies to paper cuts --, can't check Hawkeye for the same reasons as Lucina, Merric has low HP and high resistance which still sucks for a mage, and Raven has low attack and high speed.

Shanna and Subaki were covered; Shanna's completely average and Subaki has high speed and low defense. Gwendolyn has high HP and low defense. Really? You're a knight! Why is low defense even a possibility with knights!? Sad part is that compared to other high defense units, she's still got better defense. Jagen is also completely... average. DIDN'T SEEM SO THE LAST 5 GODDAMNED LEVELS. Freaking trials and tribulations using this old man. Can't close out the kill, gets doubled, dies, and repeat. The amount of times being denied getting his freaking Silver Lance and he's still barely able to kill stuff. JAGEN!!!

First Gaius and second Gaius... First Gaius has high resistance, low speed, and average everything else. Second Gaius has high HP, low resistance, and average everything else... Hmm... Gaius's overall defense sucks, but he's a naturally fast character even with low speed. Second Gaius would essentially be a weaker Saizo since they would both be really weak to magic, but Gaius is weak to physical attacks to begin with. If only merging units could up low stats. It would just make a high HP, high resistance, and average everything Gaius.

Speaking of which, Saizo apparently has low HP -- again? --, high attack, and average everything of which his resistance sucks. Matthew and Virion are the average units which makes me wonder what the duplicate Virion's stats are... I think it was the same. So, that leaves Jakob who has high attack and low defense. Thanks, game, I needed more glass cannons.

Doesn't really matter for the healers, but Azama has high HP and low speed, Lissa has high HP and low resistance, and Wrys has high HP and low defense. All of them have high HP. Welp, they're healers after all.

So, basically, the unit to promote is Hinata of all people... First, 4* Bartre and Fir don't have any negatives, so them too. Well, Fir, since I don't have 20K feathers to spare. Safe bets are Jagen and Shanna alongside Alfonse, Anna, F!Robin, Narcian if I had him, Sharena, Ursula whenever she's released, Virion, and any of the special map units (and Raigh) who start out as neutral no matter what.

Probably won't promote or use a lot -- still going to use them because of my habit of wanting every unit to be around the same level -- because of issues would be Barst, Lon'qu, and maybe Raven. Barst has, since I've gotten him, felt underwhelming and I kind of wonder about the duplicate I got a while back. Maybe I should have kept that one. Lon'qu and Raven being speed demons naturally or even more so for Raven is great, but their low attack is starting to show. It reminds me of when in Blazing Sword, Mymidons can sometimes end up doing no damage because they were RNG screwed on their attack which caps pretty low to begin with, but they still continue to double everything 'cause that's their thing. Shame since I like both of them. Raven at least is a 4* unit, but he's probably going to end up showing issues which he is.

Also, Sophia since it's one thing to be naturally slow, it's another thing to be screwed because of stat variations where the one thing that you're supposed to be good at: raw, one hit damage, is actually bad. Resistance is great, but... ugh...

Gwendolyn also worries me in that while her HP is high and as a knight, her defense is naturally going to be high, it's still concerning. Eh... whatever. I don't like using knights in this game to begin with because of the whole I can barely move around anywhere.

The low HP, high defense train of Laslow, Palla, and Selena and low HP, high resistance mirror of Merric: I don't care. They're going to be fine. Same with Gunter who makes me feel like if he's rocking low HP, then maybe Frederick should be fine. Maybe. Gonna expect Frederick to still die to almost everything. Beruka, Cecilia, and Tiki pretty much have increased defenses for increased weaknesses; Beruka and Tiki are physically durable, but naturally weak to magic and even more so while Cecilia is magically durable, but like most mages is physically weak and even more so now.

Gaius is the one that makes me wonder what should I do. Should I pick the one who has slightly better resistance and low speed or the one with terrible resistance and high HP? I don't know and I feel like I might want to hold off on Gaius. Maybe a special map Gaius can even things out or I end up with a better version in an eventual summoning.

While it's great that I have a clearer idea on what's going on with my units, I don't want to obsess over this. I don't want to stop using characters I like just because they're "bad".
 
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For any FE Heroes players, has anyone been losing more than usual in the Arena this week? I've been losing a lot and thought I just sucked but I checked my defense results and I've won against 3 other people? Wondering if they upped the AI or something so it was more challenging for everyone. Or at least for everyone not Olivia or Azura since the AI has no idea how to use refresh units at all lel

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Surprisingly this was one of the battles I won. Both Takumi's were level 40 btw
i lose a lot because my team has difficulty one rounding a neutral takumi let alone a physically bulky takumi
 
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