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[Jaguar360]

What's this talk about a "ZeldHA?" I know that the size of the hitbox got increased, but is it a lot easier to land now out of d-throw?

You can still DI as the percents go higher as far as I can tell, but the hitbox increase combined with the 2% damage increase make the window that it works bigger, so there are now percents were it can land and kill now I think.

 

[McKnightlíght]

What's this talk about a "ZeldHA?" I know that the size of the hitbox got increased, but is it a lot easier to land now out of d-throw?

It's called Finger Bang but it's truly not spectacular enough to even have a name.

 

[Kofu]

It's called Finger Bang but it's truly not spectacular enough to even have a name.

At least "finger bang" is kind of cool-sounding. has the "toot-toot."

*insert relevant clip from Ned's Declassified here*

 

[EODM07]

At least "finger bang" is kind of cool-sounding. has the "toot-toot."

*insert relevant clip from Ned's Declassified here*

I actually call Bowser's UThrow to UAir the Turtle Soup. :3

 

[Rickster]

Personally, I'm finding the Uair hitbox buff to be far more noticeable with Uthrow than Dthrow. I can actually get Uthrow>Uair semi consistently now. The best part is that when you get it, it usually puts them in kill range for other stuff. 28% is pretty nice (the equivalent to ~6 Sheik Fairs lol).

 

[BJN39]

Personally, I'm finding the Uair hitbox buff to be far more noticeable with Uthrow than Dthrow. I can actually get Uthrow>Uair semi consistently now. The best part is that when you get it, it usually puts them in kill range for other stuff. 28% is pretty nice (the equivalent to ~6 Sheik Fairs lol).

Jab Dthrow UAir literally does 34%

11% Jab

BAN•JAB

Spoiler

Which means Jab Uthrow UAir would do 39% if you could get it oml

remember when pre-patch Diddy did like, 25% with Dthrow UAir UAir?

lol

 

[Rizen]

Anyone want to wifi?

 

[Cress!]

Wii Fit's Dthrow --> Uair is called the "Wait what am I doing this doesn't exist, I'll just Nair a bunch instead."
Works 100% of the time.

 

[EODM07]

Jab Dthrow UAir literally does 34%

11% Jab

BAN•JAB

Spoiler

Which means Jab Uthrow UAir would do 39% if you could get it oml

remember when pre-patch Diddy did like, 25% with Dthrow UAir UAir?

lol

But isn't Zelda still considered tr4sh? D:

Also, I've finished the entire series of Durarara!!

Spoiler: My thoughts on the final episode and the whole

I thought the finale was good, nearly everyone had a good ending, aside from the villain controlling Niekawa and that he stabbed Mikado.

Waifu Kasane Kujiragi is okay! So I'm happy with that. <3
And Shizuo managed to beat up Izaya, you actually hear the bones in his arms crack from when he had to block one of Shizuo's punches. And just when Celty gets her head back, she loses it. :V

Dammit Celty! Don't act like Mami from Madoka!

Overall, I enjoyed the entirety of Durarara!!, some will say the ending was pretty cheesy, others will think it's a good enough ending. But I enjoyed it quite a lot. Even thought it's finished, I still got Gintama 2015, Dagashi Kashi and Musaigen no Phantom World to finish.

 

[Kofu]

Jab Dthrow UAir literally does 34%

11% Jab

BAN•JAB

Spoiler

Which means Jab Uthrow UAir would do 39% if you could get it oml

remember when pre-patch Diddy did like, 25% with Dthrow UAir UAir?

lol

DThrow UTilt NAir does 35% If you can get UTilt to connect properly (but UTilt is bad and I'm actually not sure if it actually links into NAir lol). And you can follow it up with Fire for a grand total of 41%.

 

[Cress!]

DThrow UTilt NAir does 35% If you can get UTilt to connect properly (but UTilt is bad and I'm actually not sure if it actually links into NAir lol). And you can follow it up with Fire for a grand total of 41%.

41%, wow. The same percentage G&W dies at. What a coincidence!
Wait I forgot the

 

[Kofu]

41%, wow. The same percentage G&W dies at. What a coincidence!

I think I died around that percent against @IsmaR's DK once.

You really appreciate playing heavier characters after you use really light ones most of the time. You also learn how to DI better.

 

[Furret]

Jab Dthrow UAir literally does 34%

34*1.05 when fresh is an extra 1.7%

 

[Kofu]

*1.05 when fresh is an extra 1.7%

Best Brawl combo was fresh Ganon double DAir. 44%.

 

[Symphonia]

Jab Dthrow UAir literally does 34%

11% Jab

BAN•JAB

Spoiler

Which means Jab Uthrow UAir would do 39% if you could get it oml

remember when pre-patch Diddy did like, 25% with Dthrow UAir UAir?

lol

Another thing about jab is that it's pretty decent for shield pressure. I think KlicKlac mentioned it somewhere but if your opponent likes to shield, repeated jabs can quickly wear down their shield.
I actually got a shield break with jab -> jab -> fsmash today and it killed as we were at the edge and they fell off
BAN•ZELDA

Spoiler: A video of it(sorry for potato quality)

Also, I know you've already talked about dthrow -> upair but I don't think I've seen any discussion on dtilt -> upair.
iirc, if they DI towards you or don't DI, then it can true combo at kill percent (around 80+) but if they DI away from you, then then can escape. Is that still the case now with the size increase to upair?

Anyway, haven't posted here in a while, how are you gorls?~

PS. My vote goes to Finger Bang for the name of dthrow -> upair

 

[McKnightlíght]

I think I died around that percent against @IsmaR's DK once.

You really appreciate playing heavier characters after you use really light ones most of the time. You also learn how to DI better.

So you're saying playing Zelda has helped my Ike?

But Ike's sideB is a better projectile than Zelda's!

 

[Lavani]

You really appreciate playing heavier characters after you use really light ones most of the time. You also learn how to DI better.

Can confirm. When I switch to from I get hit by things and think "Wait, I didn't die from that?" every match.

Then I get hit horizontally and think "Wait, that killed me?" because I just DI down and in most of the time with Rosa, but Corrin can't recover like that.

 

[LonkQ]

So you're saying playing Zelda has helped my Ike?

But Ike's sideB is a better projectile than Zelda's!

Even Ike's up B is a better projectile than Zelda's.

 

[Furret]

Can confirm. When I switch to from I get hit by things and think "Wait, I didn't die from that?" every match.

Then I get hit horizontally and think "Wait, that killed me?" because I just DI down and in most of the time with Rosa, but Corrin can't recover like that.

I've gotten too used to

never dying off the top

 

[Lord Renning]

I didn't realize Link was that heavy until I picked up Zelda.

 

[Kofu]

Can confirm. When I switch to from I get hit by things and think "Wait, I didn't die from that?" every match.

Then I get hit horizontally and think "Wait, that killed me?" because I just DI down and in most of the time with Rosa, but Corrin can't recover like that.

Yeah DI is a fickle thing. Characters with bad recoveries sometimes have to sacrifice some raw survival so they can actually recover. When I play Ganon I have to be really careful.

I've gotten too used to

never dying off the top

Usually Mewtwo's USmash nets KOs at least by 140% but not on Daydayday and I just think "what a fatty."

 

[SmashXX]

I played CapnChreest a top Paletuna.

How were able to throw out the hitbox at 0:53? I know how to do it from below but not horizontally.

 

[Lord Renning]

Jab Dthrow UAir literally does 34%

11% Jab

BAN•JAB

Spoiler

Which means Jab Uthrow UAir would do 39% if you could get it oml

remember when pre-patch Diddy did like, 25% with Dthrow UAir UAir?

lol

I've been thinking Zelda should theoretically be taking a stock with three grabs. Or two grabs and Zelda stuff in any given order.

 

[Rickster]

How were able to throw out the hitbox at 0:53? I know how to do it from below but not horizontally.

It's just a matter of spacing Farore's perfectly from the ledge and doing the "not grabbing the ledge by holding down at the last moment" thing.
-
Also that Uair shield damage. SHFF Uairs could actually be pretty useful for platform shield pressure now...
Too bad the opponent could just spot dodge all of them

 

[Macchiato]

How were able to throw out the hitbox at 0:53? I know how to do it from below but not horizontally.

hold down right before you would ledgesnap

 

[Deleted member]

Gorls, I just entered an online tourney. I haven't participated in one in ages so I'm excited ^o^

http://challonge.com/bttomofthebarrel

 

[Lord Renning]

Gorls, I just entered an online tourney. I haven't participated in one in ages so I'm excited ^o^

http://challonge.com/bttomofthebarrel

Defeat them for Zelda.

 

[Koiba]

Hey gorls I just finished drawing my next batch of characters~! :D
Figured I'd show you wonderful people what I did

Spoiler: Pikachu

Spoiler: Robin

Spoiler: Kirby

Spoiler: Palutena

The camera quality kinda washed it down a bit, which is a shame
Looks like I improved a bit though


Paletuna tho... She took forever


Next time I'm planning to do (Then later maybe will do )

 

[Deleted member]

Defeat them for Zelda.

So far, so good! My first two matches have been 2-0's so I think i'm off to a good start. Hopefully I can keep this up.

 

[VPTurnip]

Real nice Kirby and Pikachu, Koiba.
Shame the quality isn't better, so much detail on the other two.

Also good luck to Dan! Show 'em why we should Ban Zelda after all.

 

[Deleted member]

Real nice Kirby and Pikachu, Koiba.
Shame the quality isn't better, so much detail on the other two.

Also good luck to Dan! Show 'em why we should Ban Zelda after all.

I'm using Jigglypuff tho ;-; BUT I'LL TRY TO WIN THIS FOR YOU ALL <3

 

[KlicKlac]

Another thing about jab is that it's pretty decent for shield pressure. I think KlicKlac mentioned it somewhere but if your opponent likes to shield, repeated jabs can quickly wear down their shield.
I actually got a shield break with jab -> jab -> fsmash today and it killed as we were at the edge and they fell off
BAN•ZELDA

Yeah, I mentioned in a post earlier that jab is really good on shield now. It already got buffed when sakurai decided to increase the shield stun mechanics, but now with the extra damage, it's really strong on shield. I got a jab->jab>dash attack on a kirby holding his shield and got the shield break. The kirby player held his shield extra long because he didn't even think jab did that much shield damage, so you got the surprise factor too.

 

[VPTurnip]

@XDanDan612
Ah, I see.
Keeping the Puff meta going is even better though.
Keep at it.~

 

[Lil Puddin]

Hey gorls I just finished drawing my next batch of characters~! :D
Figured I'd show you wonderful people what I did

Spoiler: Pikachu

Spoiler: Robin

Spoiler: Kirby

Spoiler: Palutena

The camera quality kinda washed it down a bit, which is a shame
Looks like I improved a bit though


Paletuna tho... She took forever


Next time I'm planning to do (Then later maybe will do )

Draw muscly guys next.

 

[Rizen]

Draw muscly guys next.

i.e. not Marth

 

[Burgundy]

Hey gorls I just finished drawing my next batch of characters~! :D
Figured I'd show you wonderful people what I did

Spoiler: Pikachu

Spoiler: Robin

Spoiler: Kirby

Spoiler: Palutena

The camera quality kinda washed it down a bit, which is a shame
Looks like I improved a bit though


Paletuna tho... She took forever


Next time I'm planning to do (Then later maybe will do )

Ahhhhhh Kirby~!
<3

 

[Deleted member]

Well, looks like I'm out. Oh well, 3rd isn't so bad

http://challonge.com/bttomofthebarrel

 

[Macchiato]

Wait jigglypuff is a character?

oh

Well either way, good job dan!

 

[Deleted member]

Wait jigglypuff is a character?

oh

Well either way, good job dan!

Anyway, thanks Macchi! :D

 

[r_greening1]

Wait jigglypuff is a character?

oh

Well either way, good job dan!

I like how we defended Puff when people said she sucked :^)
she sucks tho :^)

Well howdy there neighbor. *tips fedora* @Space Stranger

Sorry about that double post BJN39 I guess you'll have to ban me :^)