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Guide Zelda Social: But also the FE Heroes Internet Cafe

Ffamran

Ffamran

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EODM07 said:
Does that also include Melee Falco? :secretkpop:
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Yep.
There was a rumor that Wolf was planned for Melee, but cut because he the developers thought he'd look too "similar" to Fox... Last I checked, Fox only had a grey-furred alt in... Smash 4. Even then, if we go with wolf vs. pheasant, Falco's current, "established" stats contradict what a pheasant would be like while Wolf's stats in Brawl would contradict what a wolf would be like. Ironically, PM, a fan mod, got Wolf's stats right with his run speed. Because, I'm a conspiracy theorist and I looked up these; wolves were recorded to be able to jump 12 ft (3.6576 m) and grey wolves like Wolf can run up to 35 mph (56 km/h). If they went with those stats, Wolf would, at least in Brawl, be equivalent to basically ZSS in Brawl and Smash 4 or Greninja. High jump and high run speed. He'd even outspeed Fox which if we go with real life - silly me, video games! - red foxes, they reach 31 mph (49.89 km/h). Fox would also keep his average jump since foxes jump about 4 ft (1.2 m) to 6 ft (1.8 m), but they apparently scale things like cats... Falco is a pheasant and pheasants only run at like 8-10 mph (12.87-16 km/h), but they can fly at almost 50 mph (80 km/h). I couldn't find how high pheasants jump, but it's probably not that high since.
Melee Falco was probably Melee Wolf, but with the whole lookalike issue, they swapped out Wolf's head with Falco's. Brawl Wolf was pretty much original, but the stats makes more sense with Falco as a character. Also, the fact a pretty much irrelevant sidekick made it in over an in-universe rival and secondary antagonist is pretty stupid making it seem like Falco really doesn't "deserve" - deserve doesn't really exist with who gets picked in Smash, but nevertheless - a spot in any Smash over Wolf (and Krystal).

TL;DR: Falco and Wolf's jump and air speeds should be swapped and Wolf should probably be running much faster; Falco should be the low jumper with high air speed and Wolf should be the high jumper with in Brawl since Falco and Fox shared air speeds, below-average air speed. When you think about it, it really, really makes sense for a bird to have high air speed, but kind of crappy jump and a wolf should have average air speed and a good jump since what are wolves known for outside of their fangs and claws? Their jumping capability mostly with pouncing. Also, what do wolves do to go over obstacles? Jump or run around. Birds? Fly over them or fly around them.
 
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Lavani

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Antonykun said:
Lavani Lavani are you modding your 3ds smash now?
if so i would love to see some smash shenanigans
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Kind-of-sort-of. Mostly just checking to make sure I knew how to set it up.

I can only mod 1.0.0 though and unpacking+repacking files takes forever so it's kind of a pain.
 
Rion

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thatsmash4modder said:
Hi everyone! I noticed you guys saw my videos, and as a Zelda player, I was wondering what kind of buffs you'd give her if you were running the balance patches? I've made some patches but I'm not a very good Zelda player so I don't know exactly what she needs to be balanced (I'm aiming for Mario-tier, ideally). I'd love for Zelda to be the first properly balanced character I make, so any suggestions you have would be more than welcome!
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This is late, but let's see off the top of my head? If we're aiming for Mario tier then...

Tilt
- Ftilt having less endlag, enlarged hitbox for no dead spot.
- Dtilt getting a damage increase to at least 7-8%? This should be her hit confirm for KOs!

Smash
- Fsmash having more shield stun? I guess you'd have to increase the damage, but lower the base knockback to keep it similar to what we have now? Perhaps intangibility on her arm? This should be Zelda's go-to smash.
- USmash getting a bigger hitbox + side hitboxes like Marth's.
- Dsmash getting bigger hitbox (enough to Dsmash people hanging on the ledge). Maybe a tad bit more powerful.

Aerials
- Fair should get a bigger sweetspot, but less damage / less knockback. Lower the endlag just enough so that you can at least do one SH Fair and have it autocancel and make it just fast enough start up so that you can SHAD and have the hitbox come out before landing. Sourspot should be improved to do enough damage to be safe on hit (not shield hit, but if you hit the opponent). Personally, I feel like this should be an option that is more consistent/less risky compared to Bair.
- Bair bigger sweetspot but not as big as Fair. This should be the one where if you connect, you should be rewarded for the risk it poses, so I'm not sure if I'd change much else...
- Nair should have larger hitboxes, less landing lag, better autocancel frames. This should be a reliable pressure tool for her.
- Uair should have a larger hitbox, better autocancel frames?

Throws
- Throw should have less endlag across the board.
- Bthrow this should really be on par, or close to Ness' killpower. For a character with an 11 frame grab that isn't a tether, she should have a reliable kill option for being able to grab an opponent.
- Dthrow should get a damage increase to at least 9-10%.

Specials
- Din's Fire is a bit of a beast to change with how terrible it is. Personally, I'd love for this to be something like Din's Blaze where you can throw it out and set it, but be able to move a bit before it actually explodes. If there's absolutely one change I'd want for this, is just to get rid of the ridiculous free fall when done in the air.
- Nayru's Love less ending lag, and perhaps few more frames intangibility for it to overlap with the first hit.
- Farore's allow for air movement as soon as she reappears in the air. Also less landing lag from an aerial reappearance landing?

- Phantom I really want this to be charge store-able because of the implications it has. But if we can't go that route, there should be less ending lag, and allow the ability to cancel the charge with shield/roll/spotdodge/jump? The 1st + 2nd hitbox of a full charge should also link better (I can't tell you how many times I've had a full charge only hit with the tip of the 1st hit, and the 2nd hit completely whiff). You also should be forced to shield both hits of a full charge if you didn't powershield, and not be able to roll out to avoid the 2nd hit. The endurance of the Knight should also be improved to at least 16-18%?

This should be the ability that makes your opponent feel the need to approach you. I would gladly sacrifice the usability of Din's if it meant this move was improved much more.

Hopefully this wasn't too over the top, but with Zelda you gotta really throw her a few bones and then some to make up for her years of mediocrity haha.

BJN39 BJN39 I went there sister, and went all out here haha project M be damned.
 
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FullMoon

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So uh, I might be starting to develop a small fanbase here in Brazil, apparently some people really like my Greninja play.

This feels really weird.
 
Furret

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FullMoon said:
So uh, I might be starting to develop a small fanbase here in Brazil, apparently some people really like my Greninja play.

This feels really weird.
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options:
  1. just say thanks for the support, it's nothing crazy. Imagine a youtuber getting a compliment for his videos, he doesn't clam up or give a funny look, just says thanks and continues to do what he does
  2. do a bill withers impression and sing "Ain't no Sunshine When She's Gone." you might look weird unless you have a really good impression
1 is usually the best option, 2 and 3 are pretty epic though
PK21 said:
I give up
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Sounds like me daily
 
Fuj¡n is Strange

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Just started this Life is Strange game cause I remember the gorls talking about it in here.

Who all played it?
@Alacion BJN39 BJN39 (somebody get ha attention) @Kyokoro_pamuyo @SBphiloz4


Initial thoughts:
Max is cute
This religious abstinence girl has a sex tape? Mess
Everyone is obsessedT with this Rachel girl.
This Victoria ***** is trying iT. I took a photo of her covered in paint and I hope they let me use it to blackmail the ***** if she tries to get cute again.


 
EODM07

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Morning girls. How's everyone doing? :4zelda:

Just getting some stuff ready for my meeting with my TA this afternoon. Got some spare print outs for him and myself, and I feel like he'll mostly want to know how my Tutorial went with my Tutor. Don't think I'll have to repeat myself on the forum. :secretkpop:

 
Rizen

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Koiba said:
Random thought of the day:


What is the ratio to the number of Fuujin alts to the number of Macchiato Macchiato alts?
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The same as grains of sand on a beach to those of an hourglass, respectively.


I worked the system in Xenoblade CX and got the Ares 90 skell. It's freaking sweet. You know the lv 60-70 magma giants in Coldros? It can take them out with a single art!
I used this system: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiNOTykbhVk
 
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BJN39

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Fuj¡n is Strange said:
Just started this Life is Strange game cause I remember the gorls talking about it in here.

Who all played it?
@Alacion BJN39 BJN39 (somebody get ha attention) @Kyokoro_pamuyo @SBphiloz4


Initial thoughts:
Max is cute
This religious abstinence girl has a sex tape? Mess
Everyone is obsessedT with this Rachel girl.
This Victoria ***** is trying iT. I took a photo of her covered in paint and I hope they let me use it to blackmail the ***** if she tries to get cute again.


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r_greening1 r_greening1 played iT.

Also I hadn't gotten to playing it riP fraudT confirmed. I won't make greening say it

I do know what happenTs though. Kate is important. You find out more about it later.
 
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Rickster

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If you have an Android, launchers are a fun way to customize the look of the UI.

Just don't get GoLauncher it's trash
 
EODM07

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Pancakes and ketchup are terrifying weapons.

Also, I've now recruited Axel Stone from Streets of Rage, Akira and Kage from Virtua Fighter and Ingrid from Street Fighter in PXZ2. :yeahboi:
 
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