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[Rizen]

^IDK why it's such a hassle to get decent wifi games. Sometimes my internet can decide not to work too . Do you want to try 1 more time? I made a room.

 

[Macchiato]

We're still taking Macchiato's opinions seriously? At one point, he said that Din's Fire was more reliable than Robin's Arcfire.

...

See, it's still funny.

*****, I never said that.

 

[Rickster]

Welp GGs Rizen. I think, lol. Maybe next time my internet will cooperate with us, lol. Not sure why it's acting this way...

I would play longer but my dad is griping at me to sleep.

 

[Rizen]

Rickster GGs. Sorry my game was so off. I did things like throw a boomerang backward instead of bomb pull all the time. I need to get used to the GC controller layout again.

 

[Macchiato]

Look I can turn the other cheek on litterally every other choice you made for who's worse than Zelda Except Roy
like no
I rather believe Sheik isn't the best character in Smash 4 and than believe that Zelda is more Viable than Roy

I still think is too overhyped. I don't see what else he has going for him other than great kill power.

also of course isn't the best character. There's a reason why it's BAN•ZELDA and not BAN•SHEIK

 

[Space Stranger]

So I'm going to give a short presentation to some plebs on Tuesday about an intro to competitive Smash. Is there anything I should include other than the following:

• Mastering the basic controls
• Learning your main
• Understanding advantages/disadvantages
• Secondaries
• Stage selection
• Reading Rainbow
• How to properly train
• Understanding the goal is "how to play better" rather than "how to win"

 

[Cress!]

There's a reason why it's BAN•ZELDA and not BAN•SHEIK

Yeah that's cuz it's MAIN•SHEIK becuz she's da best.

Reading Rainbow

How does this relate to Smash? Is that the name of those phamplets you gave out for the Church of Falcon or whatever it's called?

 

[Virtue]

How does this relate to Smash? Is that the name of those phamplets you gave out for the Church of Falcon or whatever it's called?

Probably refers to reading your opponent and punishing bad habits of your opponents.

 

[Space Stranger]

How does this relate to Smash? Is that the name of those phamplets you gave out for the Church of Falcon or whatever it's called?

It was supposed to be a joke on reading your opponents.

And no, my pamphlets for the Holy Church of Our Lord and Savior Falcon contained pages worth of songs dedicated to our Hype Lord. He DI'd for our sins.
[booed off the stage]

 

[McKnightlíght]

So I'm going to give a short presentation to some plebs on Tuesday about an intro to competitive Smash. Is there anything I should include other than the following:

• Mastering the basic controls
• Learning your main
• Understanding advantages/disadvantages
• Secondaries
• Stage selection
• Reading Rainbow
• How to properly train
• Understanding the goal is "how to play better" rather than "how to win"

Pick Sheik

 

[Space Stranger]

Pick Falcon

Thank you for your input. I see you and I are very like-minded in our selection of mains.

 

[Antonykun]

I still think is too overhyped. I don't see what else he has going for him other than great kill power.

also of course isn't the best character. There's a reason why it's BAN•ZELDA and not BAN•SHEIK

Solid Pokes
an actual grab/throw game with kill set ups (though not kill combos)
disjoints
mobility
scary advantage because of the above + kill power

 

[Furret]

an actual grab/throw game with kill set ups (though not kill combos)

yes he does have kill combos

 

[Macchiato]

Solid Pokes
an actual grab/throw game with kill set ups (though not kill combos)
disjoints
mobility
scary advantage because of the above + kill power

Pokes are pretty average, nothing too impressive
Combo game is good, but not overwhelming
Disjoints, for a sworded character his range is short. Also I don't think he has that many good safe moves.
Mobility, thas a definite yes.
Scary Kill power... Yes, but it requires a hard read.

He still has recovery, him being combo meat, range-kinda, no projectile, and landing(?) as weaknesses. I just don't think he's that good.

 

[Soul.]

So I'm going to give a short presentation to some plebs on Tuesday about an intro to competitive Smash. Is there anything I should include other than the following:

• Mastering the basic controls
• Learning your main
• Understanding advantages/disadvantages
• Secondaries
• Stage selection
• Reading Rainbow
• How to properly train
• Understanding the goal is "how to play better" rather than "how to win"

The obvious "how to not get salty over a loss"

 

[Meru.]

I still think is too overhyped. I don't see what else he has going for him other than great kill power.

Looool thats literally what I thought about Zelderp.

Pokes are pretty average, nothing too impressive
Combo game is good, but not overwhelming
Disjoints, for a sworded character his range is short. Also I don't think he has that many good safe moves.
Mobility, thas a definite yes.
Scary Kill power... Yes, but it requires a hard read.

He still has recovery, him being combo meat, range-kinda, no projectile, and landing(?) as weaknesses. I just don't think he's that good.

It really does sound a lot like Zelda!

Except her combo game is worse... And her range...and she has no mobility... And her landings are waaay worse...

Her recovery is better though! *party*

 

[evmaxy54]

Doc is > Jiggs anyday in terms of character strengths. Jigglypuff is just unfortunate.

She can't threaten a lot of characters directly (even Doc can do this), nothing she has is safe and her kill options are decidedly quite....uh....something. She's outranged by virtually everyone (even Doc IIRC) and her goal is to try and poke people. It is inherently a problem but I doubt she's bottom 3 (nor is Doc for that matter wat)

Dr. Mario being anywhere near the Bottom 10 though is something I can't think of. His recovery really isn't terribad unless the Doc doesn't know what he's doing or is legit outplayed (which happens to 80% of the roster who aren't literally unchallenged offstage) and his mobility is only decidedly below average on the ground (his air speed is actually average/middling). He also has one of the best shield games in the entire game which is still relevant even with the shield nerf which is damn commendable. The character's inherent strengths prevent him from being exceptionally awful, it's when people stop approaching him like Mario when this becomes less of an issue. His recovery isn't inherently bad, his disadvantage bleeds into his recovery but that's the big issue. His disadvantage. On a game per game basis he's pretty good but in a whole tournament going solo Doc presents a lot of risk because of random volatile stock loss but he's in no way near Bottom 10 (don't think his MUs are bad enough to warrant it, personally.)

The character really only needs better ways to get out of disadvantage and preserve his double jump and he'd be really really good. Right now I'd rank him as below average, I'd say in the regions of mid-lowish. He's more overlooked than say, Jiggs, but as a character I think he's better.

I feel like Jiggz has to play similar to her Melee iteration

Aka git gud at footsies

Street Fighter style

 

[TTTTTsd]

I feel like Jiggz has to play similar to her Melee iteration

Aka git gud at footsies

Street Fighter style

Yeah I think the only issue is her feet got cut off from Melee and now it's just....stumps =(

 

[evmaxy54]

Yeah I think the only issue is her feet got cut off from Melee and now it's just....stumps =(

#BRINGBACKMELEEBAIR

 

[JigglyZelda003]

Why are people saying Mewtwo has no kill power? He's about as strong as Zelda for the most part which isn't bad at all. And if he ever gets to rage Mewtwo is a tad scary.

Only reason I dont main Mewtwo is I play a bit unsafely at times and prefer to die around 90% and not 40%. I swear Mewtwo on average dies faster than Jigglypuff

 

[EODM07]

Afternoon girls. How's everyone doing?

Just had my breakfast since I got up pretty late. (I felt like I needed it anyways) And I just had a set of comments by someone named Kishin2 on Miiverse.

Funny thing is, he thinks I'm some FG Player that got mad at him. :V

Spoiler: He seems to have been triggered

Clearly, he thinks I'm HomeDog PzaSlice. :V (I don't even main Lucario. )

Spoiler: Yuri pic of the day~

 

[Trieste SP]

Afternoon girls. How's everyone doing?

I've been playing some SSF2 a lot recently and I'm in love with a lot of characters in that game. But it's a bit unpolished, like some frame rate dips and some random bugs.

Currently playing on 5 stocks and 3 min, no items, and on certain stages.

 

[EODM07]

Also. I found the newest trailer for Project X Zone 2.

Hopefully it's better than the previous one. Seems like they're adding some bits of depth to it with more customization, upgrading your units. And you can FIGHT Segata Sanshiro himself.

I've been playing some SSF2 a lot recently and I'm in love with a lot of characters in that game. But it's a bit unpolished, like some frame rate dips and some random bugs.

Currently playing on 5 stocks and 3 min, no items, and on certain stages.

Last time I touched a fan made Smash game in Flash was that Super Smash Flash on Newgrounds... it was bad. Very bad.
Two Sonic OCs, Naruto, Mr. Incredible too. (Seriously!?)

 

[Rizen]

Afternoon girls. How's everyone doing?

Just had my breakfast since I got up pretty late. (I felt like I needed it anyways) And I just had a set of comments by someone named Kishin2 on Miiverse.

Funny thing is, he thinks I'm some FG Player that got mad at him. :V

Spoiler: He seems to have been triggered

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Clearly, he thinks I'm HomeDog PzaSlice. :V (I don't even main Lucario. )

I'll be honest, that guy wasn't the scrub I expected. He's far from the best European Link though. Do you mind if I ask the Link boards if they know this guy?
I///Z//aw has never even used SSB4 Link in a tournament and Izombies worship him. He just happens to be the Link with the biggest ego in Europe

 

[Trieste SP]

Last time I touched a fan made Smash game in Flash was that Super Smash Flash on Newgrounds... it was bad. Very bad.
Two Sonic OCs, Naruto, Mr. Incredible too. (Seriously!?)

Oh, I remember playing that. That was the first game, Super Smash Flash. It was absolutely terrible but pretty decent as it was made by only one person.

 

[EODM07]

I'll be honest, that guy wasn't the scrub I expected. He's far from the best European Link though. Do you mind if I ask the Link boards if they know this guy?
I///Z//aw has never even used SSB4 Link in a tournament and Izombies worship him. He just happens to be the Link with the biggest ego in Europe

I don't mind at all.
That seems to be a common problem with some For Glory players, they have some big egos on there. Causing problems and always blaming their opponent and not themselves.

Also, I'm currently listening to MODOK's theme from MvC3, since it fits atm.

 

[TTTTTsd]

Why are people saying Mewtwo has no kill power? He's about as strong as Zelda for the most part which isn't bad at all. And if he ever gets to rage Mewtwo is a tad scary.

Only reason I dont main Mewtwo is I play a bit unsafely at times and prefer to die around 90% and not 40%. I swear Mewtwo on average dies faster than Jigglypuff

Pshaw, no kill power is far from Mewtwo's problem. It's just that EVERYONE has kill power when fighting him, that's the real issue.

Also Melee Bair on Jiggs would probably not be incredibly annoying in this game but I doubt I'd want it back anyways. I have no idea how to make her good in this metagame while also being fun.

Wish I could change the displayed font on this website for the month of October cause I want to be thematically accurate.

 

[EODM07]

Wish I could change the displayed font on this website for the month of October cause I want to be thematically accurate.

Sans asked the moderators to not allow that.

Edit: Oh god, my Miiverse post on Medabots is turning into a discussion thread on being called a Spammer/Camper. ._.

Shall I delete my Miiverse post? :V

 

[Rizen]

Edit: Oh god, my Miiverse post on Medabots is turning into a discussion thread on being called a Spammer/Camper. ._.


Shall I delete my Miiverse post? :V

I ignore people online who PO me enough. Everyone's happier that way.

 

[Flavius]

whaT?

Bowser dragged me THROUGH the platform?
BAN•BOWSER

 

[EODM07]

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whaT?

Bowser dragged me THROUGH the platform?
BAN•BOWSER

Bowser & Ganon share something in common then.

 

[Flavius]

Bowser & Ganon share something in common then.

They're too good. Can we nerf them please?

 

[Rizen]

Bowser & Ganon share something in common then.

The problem is Ganon's flame choke drops through pass-through stages like that if it misses too. Halberd and Delfino are no friend of Ganon's ledge game.

 

[Antonykun]

Pokes are pretty average, nothing too impressive
Combo game is good, but not overwhelming
Disjoints, for a sworded character his range is short. Also I don't think he has that many good safe moves.
Mobility, thas a definite yes.
Scary Kill power... Yes, but it requires a hard read.

He still has recovery, him being combo meat, range-kinda, no projectile, and landing(?) as weaknesses. I just don't think he's that good.

still better than zelda
:/

I honestly have no other way of saying it.

I'm not saying Roy is top tier, I'm saying that he is more viable than Zelda, I mean sure go ahead, underplay literally everything that's good about him in favor of making him look worse than another character whose entire selling point hinges on kill power, go ahead, I know I can't change your mind

wow that was really passive aggressive of me, My MK main is showing

TTTTTsd

EODM07 link mains tend to come into two rather unpleasant flavors, the spammer who is so deep into his spamming he thinks he's good at smash and the Link Social who is like being right next to a sleeping lion there are of course exception i certainly know/know of link mains who are nice and lovable people, but i swear those guys are the exception and not the rule

 

[link7]

link mains tend to come into two rather unpleasant flavors, the spammer who is so deep into his spamming he thinks he's good at smash and the Link Social who is like being right next to a sleeping lion there are of course exception i certainly know/know of link mains who are nice and lovable people, but i swear those guys are the exception and not the rule

How's ol' Smokey doing? Enjoying that perma ban?

 

[Antonykun]

How's ol' Smokey doing? Enjoying that perma ban?

do you just wait in every thread he has ever gone to find the perfect opportunity to rub it in his face?
I don't know to be amazed at your tenacity or appalled by your actions

 

[Jestar]

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whaT?

Bowser dragged me THROUGH the platform?
BAN•BOWSER

Reminds me of this:

 

[Flavius]

Reminds me of this:

So that's how you make low tiers viable. BREAK THE GAME!

 

[link7]

do you just wait in every thread he has ever gone to find the perfect opportunity to rub it in his face?
I don't know to be amazed at your tenacity or appalled by your actions

Funny thing is, that wasn't my original intent for being here. You happened to say something though, and I just HAD to add to some spices to that pot you'd begun to stir.

 

[Antonykun]

Funny thing is, that wasn't my original intent for being here. You happened to say something though, and I just HAD to add to some spices to that pot you'd begun to stir.

phew you had me worried that you really didn't have other better things to do